Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Americana

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I think Love did have some stuff out by them, but Mick Jagger was once asked about some songs like "Who's Been Sleeping Here?" having a Dylan influence, and he said it was more a matter of vocalists and songwriters the same age group, same sort of background and influences sounding like each other in some ways. I thought BS at the time, but later seemed more likely--especially back then, when the market and pool of records were smaller, plus the rise of To 40 and the border and other super AM stations in North America (could get those all over the place at night, way before rock FM), and the few legal stations in the UK, few pirate, for that matter. Didn't realize Bruce Palmer was in the Mynah Birds!

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

"stuff out by *then*"

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, I think this is the clip I saw before, minus "Arc," which might be trickier, being more freeform than "River"

dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh susannah - http://soundcloud.com/oldmanemu/oh-susannah-web-preview
can't really crank this since it's the kid's naptime (lol dadrock). but it sounds nice and loose.

tylerw, Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sounds good! Vibe reminds me of Farmer John...choir isn't nearly as over the top as living with war

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, the choir is unobtrusive, and everything else is nice and loud.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is basically exactly like I expected it to sound. I never had any doubts.

fruitsbs (beachville), Saturday, 21 April 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

video for oh susannah! i like this song
http://youtu.be/ei2PVpSKkF4

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha smoking toddlers!

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

new display name testing 1 2 3

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm glad we live in a country where stoned old men butchering children's folk songs with electric guitars can be released on a major label

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^

Neil's career is really amazing

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

the first 20 seconds are the best because it's like jesus guys you didn't even bother to learn the song did you?

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess Bruce and his band don't smoke up, huh

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

i thought springsteen claims to have never smoked pot

either way bruce is sooo not a stoner

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

his stimulant of choice is diet coke iirc

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i wasn't implying he WAS. just saying that you're maybe overstating the craziness of a classic rock icon releasing a major label album of folk covers when an album like that hit #3 on Billboard a few years ago.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

will the secretary treasurer please record some dude's reservations in the notes of our meeting?

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

neil young, always riding the boss's coattails

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol sorry neil stans, continue geeking out

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh there's no point in being a neil young fan if you're not going to be a total stan/dork about it.

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

we've already established that neil conceptualized this album sometime in 1964 after eating several cheeseburgers at a Toronto diner.

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Love this "Oh Susanna" as fuzzed out "Venus" or whatever, but I always wonder why Neil bothers calling them covers when all he needs to do is toss on a few new lyrics to make them his songs. I mean, they're in the public domain, anyway. I thought the same thing when Peter Gabriel did those radically rearranged covers a couple of years back. Just change the lyrics and call them new songs, dude.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

think there's a publishing/legality rationale behind that iirc

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think it's mostly the artist doing what they want to do -- neil can write songs anytime he wants, but he wanted to do folk covers, he's not going to sweat how the label credits it or who gets royalties enough to change how he makes the record.

Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i keep forgetting to transcribe that section of Shakey but basically in that book it sounds like Neil's had these arrangement/reworkings since the early 60s and is just getting to them now

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh susanna sounds great. love neil's studio chatter at the end. it's funky!

mizzell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

What I mean is, Neil - or anyone - can skronk out songs like his "Oh Susannah" at will. So why not?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like, it doesn't matter how it's credited. I'm just always surprised when artists cover a song that sound so unlike the song they're covering that they might as well call it a new song.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think you're looking for logic and reason in the world of neil young, a long and lonely journey my man

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

At least he's not doing an album of Sinatra-ized standards.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't say that too loud

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

recently it seems much more common for artists to claim songs as new compositions which "include elements" of other songs, which i always thought was lame.

mizzell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Had a dream last night that neil put out a new album--cover photo was a grainy b&w silhouette of him now with his arm propped against a doorway. In a white marker block letter scrawl was the title, "THE YOUNG ONE"

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 3 May 2012 05:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Otm

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2012 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh there's no point in being a neil young fan if you're not going to be a total stan/dork about it

Plenty of hardcore NY fans won't listen to anything after 1979. Plenty of hardcore NY fans only like the acoustic stuff, plenty of hardcore NY fans only like his Crazy Horse stuff

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

but that's so much less rewarding that trying to see the hidden genius in Re*Ac*Tor

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 May 2012 23:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was talking to an acquaintance when "Le Noise" came out, and I asked him if he liked Neil Young. He immediately said, as he should, "I *love* Neil Young..." But then he added "...but not his loud stuff." Which honestly leaves ... not much!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 May 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno, if you stick with Harvest, Comes A Time, half of Rust, Old Ways, Unplugged, Massey Hall, Harvest Moon, and whatever mostly-acoustic stuff he did after that, you'd have a not-necessarily-skewed portrait of Young.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 4 May 2012 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

You'd also be missing a more than healthy portion of his best stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 May 2012 05:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

you'd also be getting pretty much noe of the really terrible stuff

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 05:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

none

some dude, Friday, 4 May 2012 05:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

not-necessarily-skewed

seems to be the very definition of "skewed", actually

Stormy Davis, Friday, 4 May 2012 05:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I meant more that yes, it'd be a skewed picture of Young, but not wackily unrepresentative.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 4 May 2012 11:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

True, I bet there are people who do only know his quiet stuff. Seems a shame, though, really.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 4 May 2012 12:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, i mean, my mom *prefers* harvest/harvest moon to ragged glory, but she's perfectly aware of the loud stuff.

tylerw, Friday, 4 May 2012 13:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

preview for the latest demme film
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/neil-young-journeys/trailers/neil-young-journeys-theatrical-trailer-29214537.html#jumbo
annoying that the *last* demme film is nowhere to be seen on DVD.

tylerw, Monday, 7 May 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

It'll be on Archives V, due in the year 2525:

Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 May 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think you're looking for logic and reason in the world of neil young, a long and lonely journey my man

― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:10 (6 days ago)

LOL, missed this before

sleeve, Monday, 7 May 2012 21:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i haven't read up on NY as closely as others but i always get the impression people are playing up and romanticizing how crazy and unpredictable he is or deliberately misreading a tendency to be indecisive or secretive.

some dude, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink


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