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Ben UFO does have the ability to play different tempo and moods between and within sets. I highly rate him. I don't feel qualified to vote as I've only seen about 10 of the list in a club setting.

mmmm, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

i don't want to be the endless voice of negativity on these threads but ... this is another list that is heavily skewed toward the list-makers taste. afaict there are a lot of undistinguished deep house / tech house / post-minimal house names on this list and i wonder how and why anybody would consider them in the running for best DJ

Jan Krueger
Vera Heindel
Binh
Fred P
Julietta
Raresh
Julius Steinhoff
Daniel Bell
Zip
Eli Verveine
Praslea
Alexandra
Nicolas Lutz
Kai Alce
Tulbure
Kozo
Prosumer
Jane Fitz
Sonja Moonear
Red D
Rhadoo
Lawrence
Rozzo
Aybee
Laetitia Katapult
Ron Trent
Cabanne
Lerosa
Hakim Murphy
Anthony 'shake' Shakir
Steven Tang
Baby Ford
Anton Zap
Kerri Chandler
Priku
Juniper
Petre Inspirescu

^^ like i really don't get how these names got on this list

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ this list

Lamp, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

don't get me wrong i am sure all of these people are competent DJs and there are quite a few killer producers on this list

but the idea that these guys are in the same echelon as dudes like klock and dettmann and prosumer and cassy who have basically built the reputation of what is generally agreed on as europe's best club or like theo parrish and ben ufo who have basically invented their own style of DJing that a million people are trying to copy

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Binh
Julietta
Julius Steinhoff
Eli Verveine
Praslea
Alexandra
Nicolas Lutz
Tulbure
Kozo
Red D
Laetitia Katapult
Priku
Juniper

^^ pretty sure i'm not the only person who's wondering who the hell these people even are

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

This list is fairly evenly spread between people I've never heard of, people I've never heard a mix/set by and people I find a bit dull so I'm voting for Ben Klock. FWIW my vote is essentially worthless.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

I think many of these are based in DE and make infrequent trips outside of Berlin / mainland europe. There are also quite a few Romanians on the list!! I'd like to see Julietta play on the basis of a couple of mixes though.

mmmm, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

also - what have you got against Donato Dozzy??

mmmm, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ this list

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

^^ pretty sure i'm not the only person who's wondering who the hell these people even are

haha i initially assumed they were made-up in some kind of zingy comment on sick mouthy's lists but it appears not!

(well, "alexandra", who even knows)

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

(voted steffi fwiw)

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

doing a party with steffi in a couple of weeks. fwiw
http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?345533

straightola, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Nice line up but TBA E London kind of puts me off. Is this your night straightola?

mmmm, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

scuba i think is a digital DJ, which is okay w/ me because so am i, and i'm impressed w/ how he regularly manages to get 50 tracks into 90 minutes, but at the same time i think the digital thing kind of knocks him out of the running for "best DJ"

klock, dettmann, steffi, cassy, prosumer, etc (and i guess by extension the whole underground quality crew) are obviously legendary but at the same time playing 9 hour sets of straight-ahead four-to-the-floor techno and house and letting tracks play out for 10 minutes or whatever doesn't seem quite as challenging as what a lot of "urban-influenced" DJs do

ben UFO though is doing something that a lot of people have assumed for a long time to be impossible ("serious" techno/house w/ heavily swung urban stuff like ukg, post-dubstep, dubstep, grime, etc) AND doing it 100% w/ vinyl AND doing it w/ tons of energy and excitement and dj tricks and whatnot

someone i would nominate for best DJ would be RRRRRRRRRUSTIE

http://boilerroom.tv/rustie-50-min-mix/

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ this list

― Lamp, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:37 AM Bookmark

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

poll nadir.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

i was going to put you on!

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

then i'd have had to shoot myself. :)

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

scuba i think is a digital DJ, which is okay w/ me because so am i, and i'm impressed w/ how he regularly manages to get 50 tracks into 90 minutes, but at the same time i think the digital thing kind of knocks him out of the running for "best DJ"

ben UFO is... doing it 100% w/ vinyl

Pedantic corrections: have you seen scuba DJ live, though? The man can work a pair of CDJ's to. the. bone. The speed, reflexes, and utter precision (not to mention consistency) of his mixing is incredible.

The two times I saw ben UFO play he was using serato. Not that that changes anything, he's still amazing, and I might just pick up his Rinse CD sometime soon.

Another mention in a similar note, is that, seeing Jackmaster play a week and a half ago was one of the most fun sets I've experienced.

EDB, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

No offensive, but I don't see how anyone could have thought yet another of these polls was a good idea after the resounding success of all the other recent electronic ones.

EDB, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

No offence don't know anything about any other polls

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

No offence taken, i mean

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Lol@everyone taking this seriously.

But also surprised late great surprised at zip being on the list

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

i'd vote for zip.

anyway, sorry coal but it just seems like such an arbitrary, random list. and what does "current" mean? several of these have been doing it or 20 - 25 years. i'm probably taking it too seriously but always find dj polls weird.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

think this was specifically meant to be a joke

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

tho can't be sure

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Current as in seen them play lately...put a few residents type DJs in there for that reason

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

"seen them play lately" = ok. does compute.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

this is another list that is heavily skewed toward the list-makers taste. afaict there are a lot of undistinguished deep house / tech house / post-minimal house names on this list

^^^
this. A very narrow definition of "dj" here based on certain related genres (but no mentions of the genres in the title)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

didn't zip do the first superlongevity?

iirc i saw him at a perlon thing in san diego (!) but he skewed to local taste and played kinda boring west coast tribal deepish tech-house

maybe it was another perlon dude tho

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

i think we got most everyone important though

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

yo wait we forgettin someone real important? you know who we forgettin man?

Rheji BurRELL

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

Rheji, my brother!

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

lol i have heard of 3 people on this poll

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

scuba i think is a digital DJ, which is okay w/ me because so am i, and i'm impressed w/ how he regularly manages to get 50 tracks into 90 minutes, but at the same time i think the digital thing kind of knocks him out of the running for "best DJ"

i don't really care about scuba but this is also hilarious, GIMME MORE

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

k but first tell me why so i can keep bringing the lulz

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

seriously carrying the distinction between digital or not as a most important factor in one's quality in 2012 is deserving of some animated gif tumblr post

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

seriously carrying the distinction between digital or not as a most important factor in one's quality in 2012 is deserving of some animated gif tumblr post

most every dj on this list will play a high percentage of music that has no digital release

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

i think coal just proved my point

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

really? so in a "best photographer" poll you wouldn't see a distinction between digital cam + photoshop vs film?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

take it to ILP

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

k brb

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I really like Ben UFO but thought his Rinse CD was pretty much just okay to quite good. ""serious" techno/house w/ heavily swung urban stuff like ukg, post-dubstep, dubstep, grime, etc" is a great concept but the results can seem a lot less startling than you'd think.

Though speaking of which where is Surgeon on this list.

Tim F, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

If you want to account for these differences then do not call this "best current dj" . How about "Best current tech house/minimal non-digital dj".

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw i agree his rinse mix was not quite thee best representation of his talents and btw it is quite strange how almost every rinse mix has been underwhelming given the quality of the DJs they pick (well excepting like n-type)

though it also took me many listens to really get into it

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

a high percentage of music that has no digital release

loads of djs buy vinyl specifically to digitise it.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

i've found that a lot of "official" cd mixes have been underwhelming, especially in comparison with what those DJs actually play out

levon vincent's new fabric mix is an honourable exception but that's in large part b/c he did a ricardo/omar-s and made it largely about his own stuff

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

i've found that a lot of "official" cd mixes have been underwhelming, especially in comparison with what those DJs actually play out

^ this all day long

coal, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

licensing issues maybe?

the late great, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

The more hyphens on this thread, the more interesting the discussion.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

haha weird list. voted dettmann

J0rdan, Diddy (tpp), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Exclusion of both Dozzy and Move D a bit of a clanger so I'll go with the lovely Steffi.

millmeister, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

ben ufo was robbed

the late great, Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

maybe i don't listen to enough uk bass/whatever music to hear it, but what's so good about this ben ufo fella? saw him at corsica a few months ago, and eh, it was alright, nothing magical, just sounded like rinse usually sounds. i guess i'm not really a fan of that quick cut pre-programmed dj-ing style, it's a bit too invasive add for my tastes

theo is a treat, long long sets, super loud, loads of unreleased edits, shoddy mixing, heavy heavy heavy, full of surprises, he played some chris and cosey one time when i saw him!

Crackle Box, Thursday, 26 April 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link

the one time i saw theo parrish he was EQ'ing everything in this really exaggerated way that was totally stupid, it seemed like he was making fun of the people he was playing for. people wanted to get into it but it sounded like total shit. it was at some event with a bunch of different DJs and it kind of sucked, so he might've just been annoyed with the whole thing.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 26 April 2012 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

kinda surprised at theo winning - had partially wanted people to say when voting how many of these they'd seen play out in the last idk 2 years?

coal, Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Seen 10 play out in the last 2 or 3 years. Only 3 of them more than once. Voted Cassy over Zip in the end.

mmmm, Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

i think seen 22 in that time frame - didn't vote though

coal, Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

Was there a reason for your abstention? Do you have any preferences over the 22?

mmmm, Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

never really got into listening to any of ufo, but now that i've looked around via this thread he's pretty great

maybe i don't listen to enough uk bass/whatever music to hear it, but what's so good about this ben ufo fella? saw him at corsica a few months ago, and eh, it was alright, nothing magical, just sounded like rinse usually sounds. i guess i'm not really a fan of that quick cut pre-programmed dj-ing style, it's a bit too invasive add for my tastes

i dunno, none of these insults about him + rinse really seem to apply here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qkXGWyteWA

also: villalobos, lol

fauxmarc, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

Was there a reason for your abstention? Do you have any preferences over the 22?

― mmmm, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:23

i never vote in polls

coal, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

you just make them and force these poor people to pick from your arbitrary list you twisted fuck

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

you know, i think the "you can only judge them if you've seen them live" thing is a canard

ime as much as there's sometimes something "special" about seeing a DJ live that you don't get from a recording, there's also a lot of subjective factors that can distract or interfere with your enjoyment - how the crowd is acting, whether you have a headache, how many drugs you took, etc.

is jeff mills a good DJ? yeah. i've heard a lot of jeff mills live sets that confirm that as well as videos and video streams from clubs and other settings. the one time i saw jeff mills i had an awful time. they gave him a 3 am slot, after a few hours of deeply underwhelming prog/electrohouse. the crowd was an odd mix of hollywood / santa monica douchebags & douchebitches as well as a big contingent of extremely cracked-out looking vietnamese and korean people in their late 30s and 40s. the sound was off, the space was uncomfortable and had a boomy room echo, many people were jostling to take cellphone photos, mills was pissed because the decks were a millimetre off from where he wanted them (and he had them replace all three needles as well as his headphones) and trying to dance while sober to his music after three hours of dancing to west coast tribal deep house in a different room was punishing, to say the least

the late great, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

i've never seen ben ufo live, because i don't think he's ever done a show in america. i've seen him "live" on upstream videocasts and listened to many livesets and podcasts on the internet. he DJs in a way that's technically impressive and that pushes the boundaries of my thinking about dance music. theo parrish has done the same, and even though i find theo's thing is a little more tiring and a little less impressive, he's managed to do the same.

the late great, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

yep - is why i didn't explicitly say about having seen them - really it was more about who you would like to see this weekend - wherever you might live or go would have a bearing on the outcome

also, the outcome doesn't matter

coal, Thursday, 26 April 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

show me one of these boundry pushing ben ufo mixes, i'm really up for being converted, especially now the sun's coming out. and i wasn't dissing rinse or ufo upthread? just isn't too much to my tastes atm. i haven't heard anything from him that's jumped out and made me go woah and the times i've seen him i've been underwhelmed.

on that youtube upthead he cuts tracks out all over the place, sends a text, people are just standing around gawping at him. it's clinical and controlled and little bit boring, i'd find it hard to lose my shit and get into the music if i was there and that's his job, to aid that whole process

interesting about seeing djs live vs just listening to mixes. i'll judge a dj on where they play and with who they play, on what soundsystem as much as what they play and how they play it. also rarely get the time to listen to a 3hr dj mix so i tend to judge people mostly on seeing them out.

Crackle Box, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

i mean he may not just be to your taste, i really like all of the boiler room mixes, podcasts, rinse mix CDs, etc. but i know some ilxors whose taste i respect don't find him nearly as impressive as i do (tim finney comes to mind) ... as far as people standing around gawping isn't that like the front row of every "big dj" set ever?

the late great, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

ben (like zip actually) is pretty adaptable to different scenario's imo and can take in whatever direction

coal, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

I like the UFO, he's a great digger who also picks up on some big tunes early on and he usuually keeps the transitions interesting - that clip up there seems like a typical after-party-style eclectic set though. There was a great UFO/Jackmaster B2B on Rinse a few months ago, but again it's a radio show rather than a club set.

Here's the link, but I think it's drop offline: http://podcast.dgen.net/rinsefm/podcast/BenUFO160212.mp3

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

I can stick it up somewhere in case anyone's interested.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

sure

mr. jane goodall (toandos), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

Actually I really like Ben UFO, vahid, I just thought the Rinse mix was just okay.

My favourite Ben UFO sets I've heard were from 2008/2009, which may reflect the fact that this was when his style seemed most new and exciting.

When I get home I'll see which ones I like most and maybe even upload them.

I doubt the problem is that he's gotten worse since then - maybe he's even gotten better - but his style has since become one vein of post-dubstep orthodoxy, which makes it a lot harder for it to strike me as exciting (in the same way that nu-deep post-minimal DJ sets became radically less exciting circa 2008 even though there wasn't necessarily any drop in quality from the best DJs).

Tim F, Thursday, 26 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

Ah yeah that's right, Ben UFO Hessle Audio Fabric Takeover mix (from 2009) is the one:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/n4xhiq

I'd concede his style has gotten more wide-ranging since then (here's it kind of consistently a technoid broken beat) but I just love basically every tune on this (and props for including Aphrodisiax's "Unfinished Business"!).

Tim F, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

have you heard the pearson sound mix from the same night? so great!

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait i see it's fabric, not boiler room, forget it

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

I've decided that Hessle Audio Fabric Takeovers are one of the few reasons life is worth living.

EDB, Saturday, 28 April 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

Does Theo's heavy EQ-ing really work in live settings? Because from some video clips and recorded sets I sometimes feel it is a bit excessive and disrupts my enjoyment of the tracks.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link

in the live setting that i saw him in it certainly did not work at all, it seemed like a joke.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 1 May 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

seeing as this is the only thread with Alexandra on it, anyone know what this track that she and Miss I are playing in their b2b set at sunwaves?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwMNf6RRE4

coal, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

nice, can't name it tho.

new mix from Vera on Clubberia;
http://www.clubberia.com/music/podcasts/128-CB128-Vera/

mmmm, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link

someone srsly needs to id that track.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Problem is a lot of the stuff those guys play never gets a release

coal, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

the new ben ufo LWE podcast is all-time

the late great, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

new? you mean the one from march?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 18 May 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

yep

the late great, Friday, 18 May 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

I saw Jubilee last week and she was amazing. Trina, snap mini-set(!), vogue, MORE TRINA, dancehall, "Club Rez". Talked to her for a min afterward and she said she was playing for me. <3

The Reverend, Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link

not really sure about judging a DJ from a short recorded mix (especially if you like djs that play long records and let things breathe rather than a more jumpcut style) but this binh mix is pretty much what i want to hear when out

http://soundcloud.com/nightclubber-ro/binh-holy-sunday-at-club-der

coal, Monday, 28 May 2012 09:39 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Heard Intergalactic Gary play a excellent 4 hour set last night, which I think was recorded too. I will try and remember to post it on here if it comes online.

In the meantime, my favourite new (to me) DJ is Semantica label head Svreca: https://soundcloud.com/arma17/svreca-aux

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 17 March 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

this bump goes out to the dudes who rock tuesday nights at johnny's on second in salt lake city.

stylings (Matt P), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link


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