Ah, the Neil & Phish "Down By The River" is indeed still on YouTube, now from several sources, several lengths--and this one even includes an "Arc' jam. Whole thing's from Farm Aid '98:
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha oh god i remember watching that down by the river with Phish, they are just such a terrible rock band i almost feel bad for them
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeahhh. there's also this.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha the girls on acid are getting emotional in that vid
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
it was an important day in the 90s
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
neil really should have changed the lyrics at least once to "forever meeeeeeee, forever meeeeee!"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
the arc jam w/phish has it's moments so far...too bad phish's drummer is such a fucking china crash piddler stop it dude god was that woodblocks u turd?
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
tyler do you know a lot about the dead? i'm no expert or anything but i like them...but were they a pretty pathetic operation towards the end? that vid is pretty terrible
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, never liked that one, Re Phish, Hang in there for "River" (disclaimer: never seen the "Arc" part before)
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
re: the dead, i think they had their ups 'n' downs towards the end there. that performance is definitely terrible, but it may have been literally unrehearsed.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
but back to neil young, y'all see this? www.themidnightcafe.org/?p=3639
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Some of this stuff works better w YTC, YouTube Converter. The free version from cnet just converts to mp3, paid might do more--anyway, sometimes seems better when you don't have to see it, for some reason (I get tired of highlighted beardos livin' the dream)
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
i might try that, i find phish pretty grating just to look at so it could be poisoning the well of sweet exploratory jams
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
cool link tyler! that was one of my big disappointments on Archives 1, having no mynah birds...but maybe it was a problem with licensing and motown I guess...still that was kinda the band that i'd heard the most about and with the bruce palmer/rick james tie-in i think most fans were most curious about
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah it is pretty cool stuff -- some of it sounds kinda Love-ish, though that was probably a coincidence, I don't think Love even had records out when the Mynah Birds were recording (could be wrong, not sure about the dates).
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i think that would have been pretty early for a love influence...seemed like randy bachman was neil's main influence at that time based on shakey
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
it is a pretty weird chapter in Neil's career -- you'd have to think that everyone in the Mynah Birds was like -- "Motown! We've made it!" And then, nothing.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
too bad the deal fell through, because both The Fall and Neil Young being Motown artists would be the best lol thing ever
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, James Jamerson joins Crazy Horse! Hex Induction hour, produced by Quincy Jones!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think Love did have some stuff out by them, but Mick Jagger was once asked about some songs like "Who's Been Sleeping Here?" having a Dylan influence, and he said it was more a matter of vocalists and songwriters the same age group, same sort of background and influences sounding like each other in some ways. I thought BS at the time, but later seemed more likely--especially back then, when the market and pool of records were smaller, plus the rise of To 40 and the border and other super AM stations in North America (could get those all over the place at night, way before rock FM), and the few legal stations in the UK, few pirate, for that matter. Didn't realize Bruce Palmer was in the Mynah Birds!
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
"stuff out by *then*"
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, I think this is the clip I saw before, minus "Arc," which might be trickier, being more freeform than "River"
― dow, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh susannah - http://soundcloud.com/oldmanemu/oh-susannah-web-previewcan't really crank this since it's the kid's naptime (lol dadrock). but it sounds nice and loose.
― tylerw, Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sounds good! Vibe reminds me of Farmer John...choir isn't nearly as over the top as living with war
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, the choir is unobtrusive, and everything else is nice and loud.
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 April 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, this is basically exactly like I expected it to sound. I never had any doubts.
― fruitsbs (beachville), Saturday, 21 April 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
video for oh susannah! i like this songhttp://youtu.be/ei2PVpSKkF4
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha smoking toddlers!
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
new display name testing 1 2 3
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm glad we live in a country where stoned old men butchering children's folk songs with electric guitars can be released on a major label
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^^
Neil's career is really amazing
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
the first 20 seconds are the best because it's like jesus guys you didn't even bother to learn the song did you?
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess Bruce and his band don't smoke up, huh
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i thought springsteen claims to have never smoked pot
either way bruce is sooo not a stoner
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
his stimulant of choice is diet coke iirc
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wasn't implying he WAS. just saying that you're maybe overstating the craziness of a classic rock icon releasing a major label album of folk covers when an album like that hit #3 on Billboard a few years ago.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
will the secretary treasurer please record some dude's reservations in the notes of our meeting?
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
neil young, always riding the boss's coattails
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol sorry neil stans, continue geeking out
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
tbh there's no point in being a neil young fan if you're not going to be a total stan/dork about it.
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
we've already established that neil conceptualized this album sometime in 1964 after eating several cheeseburgers at a Toronto diner.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love this "Oh Susanna" as fuzzed out "Venus" or whatever, but I always wonder why Neil bothers calling them covers when all he needs to do is toss on a few new lyrics to make them his songs. I mean, they're in the public domain, anyway. I thought the same thing when Peter Gabriel did those radically rearranged covers a couple of years back. Just change the lyrics and call them new songs, dude.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
think there's a publishing/legality rationale behind that iirc
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think it's mostly the artist doing what they want to do -- neil can write songs anytime he wants, but he wanted to do folk covers, he's not going to sweat how the label credits it or who gets royalties enough to change how he makes the record.
― Neil Young’s social media channels (some dude), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
i keep forgetting to transcribe that section of Shakey but basically in that book it sounds like Neil's had these arrangement/reworkings since the early 60s and is just getting to them now
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh susanna sounds great. love neil's studio chatter at the end. it's funky!
― mizzell, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
What I mean is, Neil - or anyone - can skronk out songs like his "Oh Susannah" at will. So why not?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Like, it doesn't matter how it's credited. I'm just always surprised when artists cover a song that sound so unlike the song they're covering that they might as well call it a new song.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think you're looking for logic and reason in the world of neil young, a long and lonely journey my man
― l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
At least he's not doing an album of Sinatra-ized standards.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think I'll listen to the bootlegs but before I would consider getting tix I had to see that the setlists weren't 90% Americana ...
― dmr, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:11 (9 months ago) Permalink
You know, dumb question, but I've always wondered why "Hey Hey My My" namechecks Johnny Rotten and not Sid Vicious, when the latter (rhyme scheme aside) makes more thematic sense. Johnny Rotten never burned out or faded away, and I sometimes wonder if Neil realized he got the wrong guy and just thought, hey, it's a great song so fuck it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 23:18 (9 months ago) Permalink
if wiki is correct sid hadn't died yet when the album was recorded
plus i get the sense neil didn't even *know* that much about the pistols, he just felt something in the wind and wrote about it
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 August 2012 23:34 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, isn't the track about Elvis, really?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 August 2012 23:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
So it sounds like Ralph Molina is using Hot Rods exclusively, instead of sticks. Don't really see it as an aesthetic choice...maybe he's protecting his hearing?
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 22:57 (9 months ago) Permalink
new album according to sampedro, will be called "Psychedelic Pill"http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-neil-young-and-crazy-horses-new-album-and-tour-20120814
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 04:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
Don't really see it as an aesthetic choice...maybe he's protecting his hearing?
Too little, too late, dude. You're in Crazy Horse!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 11:35 (9 months ago) Permalink
i'm so in love with the 2nd night of the colorado bootlegs
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:51 (9 months ago) Permalink
someone just sent me a 35 minute mix of all the feedback jams at the end of Walk Like A Giant entitled Arc 2012. Noise album of the year?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:57 (9 months ago) Permalink
Without a doubt. The "Giant" jams make Fushitsusha sound like the Magnetic Fields.
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 20:11 (9 months ago) Permalink
Let me be the upmteenth person to note that the noise-jam ending of "Walk Like a Giant" is completely awesome.
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:56 (9 months ago) Permalink
kind of sounds like they're slaughtering a whale
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 August 2012 19:58 (9 months ago) Permalink
Dude, which "Walk Like A Giant" has this slaughtered whale moment, wanna listen! I guess I will listen to all of it, glowing recs, but I don't think the version I listened to reached quite those heights.
― grandavis, Thursday, 16 August 2012 20:50 (9 months ago) Permalink
Well, there's a hair of hyperbole at work here. We're not really talking Fushitsusha (I hope). It sounds more like, dunno, Masaki Batoh. Or Neil Young.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
ok judge for yourself -- here's Arc 2012: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/29629148690/arc-2012-for-nearly-two-decades-now-fans-have
― tylerw, Friday, 17 August 2012 17:15 (9 months ago) Permalink
Brilliant. Thanks for posting that!
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:04 (9 months ago) Permalink
I should admit that I've totally come around to "Americana" and now sort of view it as the closest we're going to come to a whole album of stuff like the "Farmer John" cover. As major an album as minor albums get.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 August 2012 20:50 (9 months ago) Permalink