"I go to BlackPOLL for my holidays,"-- ILM Artist Poll #17 -- The Kinks RESULTS THREAD

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Quick question: What's up with the blue Something Else? I've been posting the Castle/Sanctuary covers (non-deluxe) when applicable, but my copy of their edition of the album is gray.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I used to like Muswell more than I do now, but this is a solid top 5.

I think the blue Something Elses are just cruddy scans.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote in the albums poll, but would have voted "Arthur" for #1 (also let me be the first to say "Lola vs Powerman" is too low).

o. nate, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp I've only ever seen gray Something Elses. First US Kinks album artwork not to be fucked with by Reprise, though.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

1.

Think Visual, 1986 -- lol Points (haha Votes, yuckyuck #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

har har

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yuckyuck #1s ftw

when will Jesus bring the composition chops? (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if a single track from that album even got a vote from anyone. The band's nadir? Possibly.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

No really,

1.

The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society, 1968 -- 73 Points (20 Votes, 7 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp "Working at the Factory" might've made my top...50.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

BTW, this was up as a customer image on the amazon Think Visual page:

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

heh yukyuk

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp "Working at the Factory" might've made my top...50.

Yes. That's a real good song, although it gets tiring listening to Ray whine about the music industry.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember liking "The Video Shop" too, but thinking it was twice as long as it needed to be.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think other people must enjoy the Kinks differently from me, because "Village Green" is easily my least favorite of the 1966-1971 Kinks albums. It sounds like de-clawed Kinks to me.

o. nate, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

random Kinks catalog question: how many songs has Ray Davies written about/referencing his sister emigrating to Australia. 10? 20?

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Now the "Most Hated"

5 (Three-Way Tie)

"A Gallon of Gas"
Low Budget, 1979

"Destroyer"
Give The People What They Want, 1981

"Somebody Stole My Car"
Phobia, 1993

Each 3 Points (2 Votes)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i voted for "Destroyer" -- i will try not to troll this thread too much but in the course of putting together my ballot and listening to a bunch of songs (I'm mostly familiar with them from the Ultimate Kinks 2xCD comp) i realized that i kinda sorta hate this band, or at least RD's voice/sense of humor.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

4.

"Harry Rag"
Something Else By The Kinks, 1967
6 Points (3 Votes, 1 #1)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

3.

"Naggin' Woman"
Kinda Kinks, 1965
6 Points (2 Votes, 2 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Harry Rag is so weird. never heard this euphemism for weed anywhere else.

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

BTW, That's Lazy Lester, who did the original. (xpost)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

2.

"Come Dancing"
State of Confusion, 1983
7 Points (3 Votes, 2 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Weird. Had no idea that song was hated by Kinks fans at all. Always thought it was widely seen as a resounding return to form.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, 3 votes. and one of 'em is me, who just came out as a non-fan.

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

1.

"Black Messiah"
Misfits, 1978
9 Points (3 Votes, 3 #1's)

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was 8 when Come Dancing came out, but I thought it was great if not a little confusing thanks to the video, which I watched over and over and over while we were on vacation because I had MTV for the first time in my short life. Had nfi what a Pally was, that's for sure.

I didn't know anyone hated it either.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

some people need to listen to 'art lover'

iatee, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

And that's it for today.

Will be back to begin the "Top 50" Rollout tomorrow.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, 3 votes. and one of 'em is me, who just came out as a non-fan.

haha, no, I wasn't saying "Grr, you're not a fan if you don't like this." I'm just surprised is all.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

idg hating "Come Dancing", at least not enough to give it a hate vote.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Come Dancing" is great. video with the old cleaning ladies dancing with mops = A+

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote for hated songs because I don't hate any enough to put my loathing on record.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

i remember first hearing it while watching a block of random videos on MTV2 or VH1 Classic like 15 years ago and just being horrified by it

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I DO get hating "Destroyer"...can totally understand that impulse. I don't though.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

People, what is wrong with Come Dancing? It's a great song. How can it get more hate than Rock n' Roll Cities?

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's way more famous obviously, for one

some dude, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote for any hated tracks. There's a whole gob of shit on things like Soap Opera or Think Visual, but I don't guess I honestly hate any of it. Even the more famous tracks that can be overplayed are still underplayed by virtue of them being Kinks songs.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mainly voted for hated tracks because of "Black Messiah." Has Ray ever been called out on that song's racism?

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd say 95% of Ray's whole repertoire is sung from a character pov, so "Black Messiah" is a slippery one.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hate "Harry Rag", even tried to sell Something Else once because of it before a friend kindly intervened

Euler, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Harry Rag is so weird. never heard this euphemism for weed anywhere else.

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:25 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

doesn't Harry Rag = Fag = Cigarette?

rob, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

yah I always thought it was about cigs, lyrics definitely imply hardcore addiction

"Village Green" is easily my least favorite of the 1966-1971 Kinks albums. It sounds like de-clawed Kinks to me.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:16 (Yesterday)

I agree with this challop.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha! i put come dancing on my best-tracks ballot! oh well.

i voted for arthur as the best kinks album.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

also tbqh i'm pretty sure ray davies is a racist.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's an asshole, anyway. he just got the holy spirit for a few years there.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Harry Rag" almost made my top 20.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll save my defense of "Destroyer" for whenever it shows up in the top 50 (I'm assuming it will?). But I think it's a pretty great song for a lot of reasons.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Harry Rag did make my top 20. Always loved it. Had no idea anyone would dislike it. Sorta Threepenny Opera-ish.

bendy, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Surprised someone else besides me voted for "Naggin' Woman". But Lazy Lester didn't sing the original, although it's probably him playing harp on Jimmy Anderson's Excello 45 from 1962, which is pretty great....here.

ρεμπετις, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

hah, just listening to "Do It Again" as I go over the few songs on the poll I didn't think I knew (i.e. "Sweet Lady Genevieve" & "Better Things", both great btw) & I know this song! this was a big single back in the day, & I sing it all the time around the house, but I had no idea it was a Kinks song. it's just a song I heard a lot as a kid. It's weird to me that the same band that created punk & then raga rock & then gorgeous pastoral pop, ends up making music that they blast on the Himalaya on the radio at the Florida State Fair in the mid 1980s, alongside Van Halen & the Tubes.

Euler, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp or maybe it's about a loved one passing away and I'm totally off. as it's already been demonstrated, I don't understand this dude.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to "Days" off YouTube--I have Village Green, but (sorry) it just didn't ring a bell. Anyway, I love this user comment: "...makes me so proud to be British, and I'm a Jewish glass of water born on the moon."

clemenza, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

its not on Village Green...?

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp Kind of sad to see Mick Avory in the video for "Do It Again" considering he'd been booted from the band during the Word of Mouth sessions and doesn't play on that song.

Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Days" was in the original track list for vgps, but was dropped.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 April 2012 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually on original European release, not just track list. Later a single.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, that would explain my confusion; the YouTube I was looking at identified it as VGPS, and I've got an old Canadian Phonodisc pressing. I'm going to be keeping an eye out for Kinks Kronikles (Christgau's jokey review sticks out in my mind), although I bet vinyl copies aren't cheap.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 00:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Days" was on the original Euro pressings of the album, which were mistakingly issued after the band pulled the tracklist, cutting it and "Mr. Songbird" in favor of five other songs, among them "Big Sky" and "Animal Farm".

Kink Kronikles probably shouldn't be that expensive on vinyl--I imagine it was in print from '72 to whenever Warners stopped doing vinyl (early '90s?). I picked one up a few years ago for about $8.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I used to have one that had plastic inner sleeves so I think it was in print for a long time.

timellison, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

my ballot

albums
1 something else
2 muswell hillbillies
3 the kink kontroversy
4 kinda kinks
5 village green preservation society

3 worst
1 black messiah
2 somebody stole my car
3 welcome to sleazy town

tracks
1 days
2 victoria
3 i need you
4 all day and all of the night
5 sunny afternoon
6 till the end of the day
7 waterloo sunset
8 oklahoma usa
9 you really got me
10 picture book
11 nothin in the world can stop me from worryin bout that girl
12 tired of waiting for you
13 father christmas
14 this time tomorrow
15 misfits
16 little miss queen of darkness
17 some mother's son
18 rosie won't you please come home
19 i'm not like everybody else
20 lola

balls, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've heard that the CD version of Kink Kronikles has poor sound, by the way.

timellison, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

wouldn't be surprised if it does (though that's how i've heard it). was probably done early in the CD era and never again to my knowledge. amazing comp all the same, i taped it from the library as a kid and it was definitely the gateway into serious kinks appreciation.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 02:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks C Grisso. My ballot:

1. Waterloo Sunset (1)
2. Days (5)
3. The Village Green Preservation Society (15)
4. See My Friends (16)
5. Autumn Almanac (14)
6. Victoria (2)
7. You Really Got Me (3)
8. Better Things (31)
9. The Way Love Used to Be (39)
10. Tired of Waiting For You (7)
11. Art Lover (DNP)
12. Dead End Street (12)
13. Sunny Afternoon (8)
14. Shangri-La (4)
15. Celluloid Heroes (29)
16. Everybody’s Gonna Be Happy (DNP)
17. Do You Remember Walter? (17)
18. David Watts (9)
19. Who’ll Be the Next in Line (DNP)
20. Fancy (34)

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

In the now honourable tradition..

1. "Victoria" (2)
2. "All Day And All Of The Night"(10)
3. "Dead End Street"(12)
4. "You Really Got Me"(3)
5. "Mr. Churchill Says"
6. "Party Line"(36)
7. "See My Friends"(16)
8. "Susannah's Still Alive"
9. "Dandy"
10. "Wonderboy"
11. "The Village Green Preservation Society"(15)
12. "Where Have All The Good Times Gone"(43)
13. "Sunny Afternoon"(8)
14. "Dedicated Follower Of Fashion"(37)
15. "Apeman"(46)
16. "Days"(5)
17. "Waterloo Sunset"(1)
18. "Tired Of Waiting For You"(7)
19. "Picture Book"(21)
20. "Death Of A Clown"(35)

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Go on then, "Susannah's Still Alive" was 51, wasn't it?

Mark G, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mark G, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently! Sadly, an overpriced import to the States.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 cds and a dvd. http://www.thekinks.info/the-kinks-at-the-bbc/

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, just saw that it was more than $100! maybe it'll come down. looks niiiiiice.

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmmm is that ... is that a thing?

Is it weird that I read that in a Dave Chappelle voice?

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

hot damn tamale.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

when are we doing The Who. Did I miss it?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Who will be #24, and will be run by Tarfumes.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 April 2012 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just seen the timing thread, and notice The Cure and Kate Bush are upcoming. Must find out how to vote, some spreadsheet malarkey iirc. Is there an idiot's guide?

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 26 April 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Just saw on the Kinks fb page that Rosie Davies, sister of Ray and Dave and inspiration for many of the former's songs, has passed away.

Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Here's Dave Davies taking the ice bucket challenge as nominated by Mark Hammill.

Wait, what?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:17 (2 months ago) Permalink


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