Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

ugh

since when is "true" a verb

idk it just sorta trued into being a verb a while ago

I TRUED IT

hahahah what the hell

"He got trued last night" sounds like my kind of neologism

jeez talk to a bike mechanic sometime

true is totally a verb dudes means the same thing as square, as in level or even or to adjust something to the right psition

look if Kingsley Amis said it's ok to use as a verb then I'm cool

so 'true' is amised?

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look we all know what team we're on here, but that's not an accurate reading of their objection curmudgeon. "charity" and "government" are two different things.

― goole, Monday, April 16, 2012 6:52 PM

Ok, one commentor on the Red State posting mentions the word "charity" but not the author of the posting. Some of my above comments were based on standard complaints I have read on that Red State site and other right-wing sites, and you are correct were not specifically in that author's posting.

i got trued by a Republican operative in a voting-booth beef.

Republican opposition ensured that a measure pressed by President Obama and Senate Democrats to raise effective tax rates for the superrich would not come to a decisive vote.

Thank you Mark Pryor, alleged Democrat from Arkansas for voting with the filibustering Republicans on this. Sure, Dems were 9 votes short of 60 and the Buffet Rule alone would not solve everything, but still.

Washington-based conservative writer aghast at Hillary Clinton; plus yesterday's NY Post had a photo with the caption "Swillary":

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100150955/is-hillary-clinton-becoming-an-embarrassment-as-secretary-of-state/

It is hard to imagine Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell, Madeleine Albright or Henry Kissinger “livin' la vida loca” on the world stage. This was less an example of “smart power” than a boozy nightclub audition for the sixth season of Jersey Shore. Hillary Clinton’s Colombian antics are an embarrassment for a high-level cabinet member on official duty, and have lowered the office of Secretary of State. Not exactly the sort of image the federal government should be projecting at a time of widespread public disillusionment with Washington excesses.

Have you seen digby's response?

Nice.

The substantive news from Colombia is not good:

Overlooking violence against Colombian labor leaders and ongoing efforts to prevent unions from forming, the Obama administration announced at the Summit of the Americas over the weekend that the US-Colombia Free Trade Agreement will take effect May 15.”

GUESS WHO'S BIZzACK?

http://i.imgur.com/qyrr5.jpg

That is actually the best photo.

omg

Andrew v. otm

first as tragedy, then as Poochie.

Slick Willie looks like he's three feet tall! Love the tie though.

Compare and contrast these ex-two-term-presidents: Clinton v. GW Bush.

every president ever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GWB

even Andrew Johnson?

sure why not

which wars did Johnson start/which economic disaster did he create I forget

for a certain segment of the population he helped foster an economic disaster and war that has lasted to this day

He created a racial disaster in the South iirc

not disputing Johnson being stupid/drunk/incompetent btw

in any case it's pointless to compare any pre-20th century president to what a president does today, might as well compare him to napolean

btw I don't mind thinking Bush is worse than Andy Johnson but in the let's-send-young-men-needlessly-to-their-deaths Wilson and Nixon are pretty horrible.

i don't really strongly associate Nixon with let's-send-young-men-needlessly-to-their-deaths, or at least not as much as JFK + LBJ, but i'm sure i'm wrong

Nixon prolonged the Vietnam War, ordered the invasion of Cambodia, gave the ok to the CIA to eliminate Allende – turns the stomach really.

for a certain segment of the population he helped foster an economic disaster and war that has lasted to this day

key difference here is that Dubya's policies fucked the ENTIRE country (granted some worse than others), not just "a certain segment".

Johnson's failures are egregious, but the scale of Dubya's mismanagement is like a fucking Bible EPIC: 9/11, Iraq war, Katrina, housing collapse/economic meltdown

no one is doing their assigned work (pouts)

my impression is that while JFK and LBJ both escalated the Vietnam war, neither was as brazenly cynical and opportunistic as Nixon was when it came to killing people for political gain.

key difference here is that Dubya's policies fucked the ENTIRE country (granted some worse than others), not just "a certain segment".

shakes, what's the difference? Johnson's racism and disinterest in Reconstruction fucked the ENTIRE country for a century!

key difference here is that Dubya's policies fucked the ENTIRE country (granted some worse than others), not just "a certain segment".

You're not seriously saying this, are you?

that fucking SOB Clinton did more than his share of initiating "W's economic disaster"

W and Billy were sockpuppets, as is Hopey

the northern states did allright during Reconstruction iirc

lol shakey you are digging yourself in a hole to defend a statement w/ no particular value anyway

entirely possible

neither was as brazenly cynical and opportunistic as Nixon was when it came to killing people for political gain.

I guess I won't say who's worse than Nixon.

Speeding tickets, Indy 500, etc etc

whether or not dubya was a better or worse president than johnson reveals absolutely nothing about anything, those dudes lived in entirely different universes and had entirely different roles in history, it's like arguing about pizza vs. china, the only measure by which you can compare them is 'effectiveness as a politician' which actually doesn't matter because their political goals were to do bad things to the world

we're just having fun here – lighten up

lightening up is the foundation of the problem with this whole conversation

one could just as easily argue that LBJ and nixon lived in an entirely different universe than bush -- even the political world that bush sr. operated in seems pretty remote.

james buchanan was even worse than andy johnson IMO, a total imperialist and incompetent fuckhead.

I guess I won't say who's worse than Nixon.

Speeding tickets, Indy 500, etc etc

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:38 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

coppola?

Great Barney Frank interview:

Q: But isn’t part of that just because the media is expected to be adversarial?

A: Who expects it to be adversarial? Where did you read that? Did you read that in the First Amendment? Where did you read that the media is expected to be adversarial? It should be skeptical, why adversarial? Adversarial means you’re the enemy. Seriously, where does that come from?

Q. Okay, maybe “skeptical” is the better word.

A:But that’s a very different word. You reflect the attitude: adversarial. And there is nothing in any theory that I have ever seen that says when you report events that you’re supposed to think, I’m the adversary, so that means I want to defeat them, I want to undermine them, I want to discredit them. Why is that the media’s role? But you’ve accurately stated it, and I think it’s a great mistake.

Q. Do you think I just showed my hand there?

A. No, I don’t think you showed your hand personally. I think you reflected the Weltschmerz.

Q: But you know the old aphorism, “Afflict the comfortable, comfort the afflicted.” I think that’s more what I was trying to get at.

A: When have you comforted the afflicted? I don’t see that in the media. I don’t see reporting that comforts low-income people or the environment. I think it’s negative about everybody.