interesting that The Sixth Sense wasn't nominated. I guess it it technically more of a thriller or whatev, though there is enough spooky haunted house stuff, zombie-ghosts and what not, to qualify it imo. Personally, I do like it, but I prob wouldn't have voted for it in this. That's valuable real estate!
an accidental oversight, or perhaps simply indicative of how badly MNS's subsequent cavalcade of banalities has tarnished the esteem held for his one actually pretty good film (tbh tho I'd prob stan for Unbreakable over TSS, tho it's been a steep and steady decline from there..)
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is the first ilx ballot poll I've participated in w/o ghostbusters on the nom list.
― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sixth Sense felt more supernatural drama than horror to me, the few shock scenes it had were tacked-on, as it clearly wasn't a scary movie at heart.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
was decided early in the nom process that horror film does not necessarily equal scary film
the lack of something like the sixth sense is not because it's not a horror a film, but prolly because nobody was willing to rep for it on the nom thread
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
it was a shitty movie at heart
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, there are a bunch of these that i don't think of as horror films and i'm not a genre-pedant at all. 3 women is one of them -- wages of fear might cut it as a "suspense" film (as would, for another example, blue velvet), and truthfully i have difficulty of diabolique as a horror film (consequently, if wages of fear and diabolique are "horror" films, then why should le corbeau be excluded? if anything, le corbeau has more horror film elements than the foregoing clouzot films!)
but hey, easy enough to settle i won't include those on my ballots and everyone else can vote for whatever they want so ignore me lalalala.
― onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp - surely GB is not enough of a horror flick to warrant inclusion here, tho I will say that this ^ scene scared the bejeezus out of me when I saw it for the first time in the theatre as a kid.
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
What does "horror film" mean, then? Any movie with a supernatural element? Is that why movies likes like The Isle or Stalker, which have absolutely no scary scenes at all, are on the list?
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
...except that The Isle doesn't have supernatural elements either.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's a movie where the primary conflict is resolved through gory setpieces
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
or devil babies
also creepy music
Glad Paperhouse is on the list. Another sort of unconventional horror movie, but really unnerving. I first saw it with about a dozen friends in college at my girlfriend's apartment, and I remember a few scenes where everybody in the room jumped at once.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
also, is testament the 1983 film about nuclear war?!? i guess that it must be, since threads is also on the list.
― onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Testament is possibly the scariest movie I've ever seen
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have no idea why Stalker was nominated either, unless it was a different one than the Tarkovsky movie. Or maybe the final shot (SPOILER ALERT?) tipped someone off into Carrie territory?
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is gonna be tough. watched Fulci's "The Beyond" as, uh, "research" for this thread last night. pretty silly. plotless gore! loads of great setpieces tho. and the painting motif was a good touch.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, April 16, 2012 12:51 PM (46 minutes ago)
the beyond is kind of like suspiria's slow brother, it tries to leap over yr aesthetic concerns by going for a similar pervasive atmosphere of terror, which translates to an almost poetic surrealism in some scenes, and a final sequence that is truly haunting. but it is a deeply stupid movie.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love The Isle by Kim Ki-Duk, but who the hell thinks it's a horror movie?
i nominated the isle because it's suspenseful, grisly, disturbing and it maintains an atmosphere of dread. a lot of contemporary "horror" focuses more on ordeal than scariness. nominated ming-liang tsai's the wayward cloud at the same time for similar reasons, though that one's got more genuinely unnerving scenes (e.g., the porn basement). mostly just wanted to throw in some outliers.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
If that's enough to make a horror movie, then why didn't anyone nominate Monty Python and the Holy Grail?
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp Its going to place for me on the final scene alone. Also my inherent weakness for foamy, pink blood.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
re: The Beyond - it's funny how the plot is so non-existent, characters are established but then they do things and go places for no apparent reason, there's no discernible logic to the sequence of events etc
xp
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
edward III otm re: the beyond. i nominated it for its reputation, gore and atmosphere, and for its terrific conclusion, not cuz it's a conventionally good movie.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was a joke Tuomas
it's funny how the plot is so non-existent, characters are established but then they do things and go places for no apparent reason, there's no discernible logic to the sequence of events etc
this is actually a good description of a lot of horror movies from the 1980s onwards ...
― onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Beyond might be the only Fulci film from that era I love, much less like.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
(xx-post)
To me the Isle just felt melancholy and beautiful, I can't remember any suspense in it. Sure, there's that one icky scene, but if something is horror because of an icky scene, regardless of the context, that sounds like a way too technical definition to me.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, that does seem like a pretty surprising oversight. i'd meant to nominate it, but forgot. it's certainly not that i wouldn't be willing to rep for it. i love that movie.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, that was the other reason i nominated. i felt that fulci deserved representation on this list, and the beyond is the only film of his that i've ever really enjoyed.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
The City of the Living Dead is awkward. Zombie is lugubriously paced and then there's a shark vs. zombie battle that's awesome in concept but *yawn* in execution. New York Ripper is grimy without being truly disturbing like Maniac.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh come on contenderizer, Zombie is plenty entertaining. a zombie punches a shark! underwater!
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol xp to Eric
only saw the sixth sense once in the theaters and I have to give it props as a well-done horror film, I think most of the resistance to it is actually horror at what shamalama did afterwards
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's a few grindhouse nasties I forgot to nominate but probably that's for the best. Goodbye Uncle Tom is definitely some *kind* of horror movie, but maybe not this kind.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
every italian horror film
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Grim Reaper with Tisa Farrow probably should've been at least given a mention tho.
I am simultaneously cursing and thanking you for cutting off the nom process eric
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Paperhouse! I totally need to rewatch that. I remember renting it from my local video shop as a kid and thinking I was all smart and fancy b/c a blurb on the box advertised it as 'the thinking person's Nightmare on Elm Street.' I don't remember much about it at all, save for that it creeped me out sufficiently, despite there not actually being some intellectually sophisticated version of Freddy (lol which I guess is what said blurb made me envision back then).
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I consider something horror if some supernatural element or unexplained phenomenon is intrinsic to the plot, or the movie was designed to invoke a sense of horror (even if it doesn't). The only controversial nomination I made was Fire Walk With Me, but I stan for that as a horror movie because it is full of supernatural/unexplained things, it succeeds in evoking horror, and also it scares the bejeepers out of me.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 16, 2012 5:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes! I kept trying to reply with "That's so Fulci!" but I was getting xposted into oblivion.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
I know I know, it just seemed especially pronounced in this case. I kept laughing every time someone went down under the house by themselves just to, y'know, wander around.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Monday, April 16, 2012 1:46 PM (9 minutes ago)
this was a carry over from darin's yearly horror polls, which were awesome and comprehensive but sometimes too broad in their inclusions. pretty sure I bitched about the stalker nom at the time.
see also: equus. one of my fave films but in no way a horror movie. unless you're a horse.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
also, is testament the 1983 film about nuclear war?!?
Yup.
And yup. It's going to be very high on my ballot. I'm gonna limit my hardcore nominee stumping to Testament and Possession. If at least some of y'all made a point of seeing those two before voting, I'd be over the moon.
― Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I can't decide if the fact that I can't bring myself to watch it as an adult means I should include it or not.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
I meant to make this point on the horror thread, but I think if a future sci-fi poll is a "sci-fi and fantasy" poll, that will allow for some glaring misses to be rectified (e.g. king kong, godzilla).
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
*horror nom thread*
I mean, as weird as The Beyond is, the House by the Cemetery is completely incomprehensible. But should have placed in the comedy poll for the Little Bob's voice dub acting.
― Polly biscuit face (carl agatha), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
also, still finding movies missing from the nom list that have a shot on the lower echelons of my ballot *sniff*
burnt offerings (1976)
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Zombie is lugubriously paced and then there's a shark vs. zombie battle that's awesome in concept but *yawn* in execution.
Is Zombie the one where the girl has her eyeball impaled on a jutting wooden splinter in super slow-motion, or was that COTLD? Either way, that is one most harrowing death scenes ever iirc.
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I will tell you this: I found it just as horrifying and devastating as an adult as I did when I saw it as a kid. Feel free to take that as a recommendation or a dissuasive argument.
― Harried Ice Craw (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
If I were going to vote in this*, I'd put Testament at #1 and fill the rest of the ballot out with 19 films I didn't think would get any votes.
(*which I'm not; I don't like horror films and haven't seen many)
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe the bottom 10 or 15 won't change and then everyone wins
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey Eric, you aren't rolling out any results on Saturday/Sunday are you? I am out of town celebrating my anniversary this weekend and I want to be sure to be around to complain abt pontypool when it places
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
If anything changes markedly, it will likely be the bottom 10 or 20.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
is Grizzly Park really on this ballot? Really!?!
― silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
No, I'm only doing weekdays. So maybe the way things turn out now, I'll do the first 30 on Thursday and Friday and the remaining spread across all five days next week?
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
i should have my ballot to Eric within the next half-hr. going fairly old-school, so i doubt it'll shake up the SQ all that much. nor should it require for more img sourcing.
― silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Good to know; if that's the case, I bet it won't affect too many of the tiles that are already shelled out.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
(Right now, I only have the first batch of 15 and I think pillbox was finalizing the next 15 last night.)
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
(Which, by the way, I think the images Pillbox has worked up are gorgeous. He's going to deserve the lions share of credit for the success of this poll.)
if pillbox doesn't wanna or can't redo the tiles, and that should really be the deciding factor here, then maybe just include a note where HJ's ballot would change the rankings?
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yup, I've emailed him and await his verdict.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
well this is a fine turn up for the books :) plus i'm off work thursday so that's a great day for the countdown to begin.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
who is this HalJam-come-lately?
If Eric is a list queen, you are all ladies-in-waiting.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
I for one would like all spring/summer list projects to be announced by March next year, so I can decide whether to order MLB.com for the season.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
HalJam is Claudio Fragasso
― He's sick of the Swiss. He don't like em. (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
hal is a ravenous horror junkie and drive-by poster who dropped science in the post-2005 horror thread
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
and on the year-by year polls
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am a mere Eve Harrington to Mr. Hal Jam's Margo Channing.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, you can put that honor where your telltale heart should be.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
oooh, so close. i am Bruno Mattei. who is Morbo Channing? oh and ballot submitted. apologies to two directors who just didn't make the cut. you know who you are.
― silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
damn, that was fast. took me like three weeks!
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
I want to be sure to be around to complain abt pontypool when it places
I got yr back on this, don't worry
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
and i'll sink your battleship
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey guys - just fyi for those wondering abt my continuing progress on the screencap tiles & how it might be effected by the unexpected late-game Hal Jam factor, I'm happy to report that only some slight numerical rejiggering will be required & there will be no substantial revision otherwise - a small price to pay inho for the sagelike contributions and general presence of ilx's most elusive titan of horror standom!
In other words, it is still game-on in my corner. Let's do this thing!
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
awesome!
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am feeling antsy and impatient, but it isn't gonna kill me. Or at least, it might not. I dunno. I might have caught some sort of rage disease which will explode inside my head, splattering my brain across the entire poll.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
yay
xps
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
So are results rolling out tomorrow then?
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also I will have to be out of the loop on Friday, but that is because I will be hanging out at the site of one if minnesotas most infamous murders so I will be here in spirit
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think all systems are likely go for a Wednesday launch imo.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Set your alarm for 5:00 a.m.: you must start it up sometime during the hour of the wolf.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
(Which, by the way, I think the images Pillbox has worked up are gorgeous. He's going to deserve the lions share of credit for the success of this poll.)― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:05 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
the procurement of thematically resonant and illustrative visual materials is something this poll, of all polls, deserves especially - i have simply tried to rise to the occasion, the process of which has been frankly a blast, if also rather exhausting. But make no mistake, Eric. I am but a bit player to your cackling ringleader in this Grand Guignol of delirium and atrocity!
― Troll 3 (Pillbox), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
yay! hopefully during Vargtimmen too!!
― Boris Kutyurkokhov (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 07:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Just need to get on my feet at work and then I can begin.
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Haunt Of Fear: ILX Top 100 HORROR Movies Poll Results Thread
― jungleous butterflies strange birds (Eric H.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
YESSSSS
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink