"Shouts to Obi Wan Kenobi, my only muthafuckin hope!"
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
cant wait for the exciting genre(s) of holorap/holowave /indigram
i like things that make me feel like im actively living in the future instead of passively succumbing to the present
― Masonic Butt (Lamp), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
thinking abt how futurists want to upload our minds to the internet and become immortal and how itd effect tupacs art to be disembodied, just occasionally projected for profit, the deep longing for corporeality in rap form
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
totally getting a hologram of myself projected at my funeral
― dayo, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ as a surpise appearance would be even better
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
this technology could also be used to create 'rock n roll heaven' w/ all the dead classic rock dudes jamming, boomers would pay good money to see that
figure this will happen on at least some scale, but that no one will really care. maybe holo-beatles could be a thing? figure the big money is in simulcasting "event" concerts featuring tween stars like beiber and the jonas brothers, or whatever the equivalent is these days.
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
also having it climb out of the coffin xp
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
^ good short story idea at least
bless
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
wait you know what would be cool, watching a hologrammed super bowl
― iatee, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of feel like I'll just have enough money in my estate to pay for a 3d model of me, but they won't have enough money for animation so it'll just be my likeness performing Tupac songs with his voice
― mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
― iatee, Monday, April 16, 2012 11:32 AM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup courtside seats for all
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, hologramming of real-life stuff in real time will be big. plus we could all have chess sets featuring monsters!
― BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
eh chess is just a game for computers to play w/ each other
― iatee, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
Hologram Pac was totally lip-synching.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
hologrammed farmville maybe
would like to see gr8080 collaborate with hologram chaki on new 'found IRL' picture thread.
― pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
keep wanting to be a pedant and say this isn't a hologram, but whatevs
― mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
hologram dom p could offer zingers until later discovered that he's just a projection on a hanging bedsheet.
― pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
dude
― pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
what if
It was a holla! - gram.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
this is fucking bullshit. not a hologram.
― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
if this isn't a hologram, does that make it a hologram of a hologram
― iatee, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
what if we're all holgrams.
ain't no hollagram girl
― dayo, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
what if... holograms
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
wait you know what would be cool, watching a hologrammed super bowlLooking forward to Holmgren Hologram.
― pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
i saw this and it was amazing, but hard to get a feel for how it was in person, given that i was watching it in 2-D. i guess i sort of just doubt this is an actual hologram? don't you need to use some crazy 3-D capture camera technology to make a hologram? you can't just extrapolate a hologram from video footage
(i realize there is probably a listicle that explains all this)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
if it were a hologram you'd be able to move from side to side and see a different angle of tupac, but no such luck
― mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
they can make 3d movies from 2d movies, like u dont see pac from all angles, just front on but he looks a lil popping out
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
you can't just extrapolate a hologram from video footage
This pretty much looks like a 3d computer model of Tupac which could be kind of like a hologram, but you'd have to be able to actually pan around. Everyone there saw the same angle, no matter which side of the stage they were on. He just probably looked kind of distorted.
For a really-real hologram, they'd have had to capture him using a camera that picked up all available light etc etc and it'd have to be video of him from life
― mh, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i don't really give a shit about holograms, wake me when we get a Star Trek: The Next Generation-style holodeck
― some dude, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
Were you all wearing your special hologram glasses?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://couchcutter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/medium_trek-dream-team-geordi.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
we were promised holograms
― Masonic Butt (Lamp), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
tbf the hologram didnt even look that much like tupac
http://i.imgur.com/Y5UfM.jpg
― lag∞n, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
holorihanna would prob be more popular than holopac
― some dude, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
sure as hell didnt look much like the tupac i ran into at the mall coupla weeks back
― Masonic Butt (Lamp), Monday, 16 April 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
it's interesting that before they show they pre-announced the hologram nate dogg but let this be a surprise
Coulda swore I heard something about this on Saturday as the follow-on from the Nate Dogg thing.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
yeah maybe...but the nate thing was pretty well known in the press like a week ago, no mention of 2pac at the time
― some dude, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
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― pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
the Tupac hologram
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 April 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Heavens! ;-)
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
Tupac is in hell right now totally pissed off that you guys are making fun of the hologram he sent up.
― azealia canks (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://oi39.tinypic.com/bakxt.jpg
― lebron traveled (am0n), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
is this real orhttps://twitter.com/#!/HologramTupac
― lebron traveled (am0n), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
"We worked with Dr. Dre on this and it was Dre's vision to bring this back to life," said Nick Smith, president of AV Concepts, the San Diego company that created the hologram. "It was his idea from the very beginning and we worked with him and his camp to utilize the technology to make it come to life."
Smith said he wasn't allowed to talk about the creative aspects of the production — including how the hologram was able to seemingly perform the set in synch with Snoop and whether all the vocals were 'Pac's — but he did say that his company has the ability to recreate long-dead figures and visually recreate them in the studio. "You can take their likenesses and voice and ... take people that haven't done concerts before or perform music they haven't sung and digitally recreate it," he said.
The hologram was the latest visual magic pulled off by AV, which is also behind the 2005 Grammys performance featuring Madonna and the holographic members of the Gorillaz, as well as holograms used in concert by Celine Dion and the Black Eyed Peas.
The Tupac hologram was several months in the planning and took nearly four months to create in a studio and though Smith was not able to reveal the exact price tag for the illusion, he said a comparable one could cost anywhere from $100,000 to more than $400,000 to pull off. "I can't say how much that event cost, but I can say it's affordable in the sense that if we had to bring entertainers around world and create concerts across the country, we could put [artists] in every venue in the country," he said.
The life-size Tupac was amazingly life-like, down to the late rapper's signature tattoos, Timberland boots, jewelry and movements, all of which were also recreated under the direction of Dre.
― lebron traveled (am0n), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/cIbe1.gifpac to enterprise...
― man down (D-40), Monday, 16 April 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
no holograms involved, but this is an interesting interview with holly herndon on the recent song by Travisbott, which is an AI trained on Travis Scott (without his permission).
herndon touches on the possibility (the inevitability, according to herndon) of labels using AI to create new songs which mimic the voices of older singers. Just train an AI on a bunch of tracks of an elvis voice, then have elvis guest on a new song. "My music may suck but I'm on a major label (ft. Elvis)". interesting to think about, and given the strange popularity of shitty remixes of older songs, it does seem inevitable.
...Spawn, Herndon's "collaborator," was trained on different, consenting human voices ranging from Herndon’s own to that of a 14-piece choir; she denies that Travisbott is an extension of her work even outside of ethical considerations. “We used audio material [instead of MIDI], which is actually much harder.” When she spoke with The FADER in 2019 about Proto, Herndon said she saw something like Travisbott coming: “I think we're going to see a flood of automated compositions, people using neural nets to extract the logic from other people's work, and a lot of appropriation. We're going to see big issues around attribution.” Now that this future has arrived, what’s next? Speaking over Skype, Herndon succinctly broke down her concerns while rejecting the “evil robot” vision of the future....Q: Do you think that one day voice modeling is something that could buttress this tendency to keep revisiting the same pop archetypes?A: Oh, 100%. Are you kidding me? There's so many labels with gold mines worth of master tapes that they're just dying to reanimate. That's definitely going to happen.We'll see what the public decides that they want, or what they don't want. We also decided as a society that it's okay to not pay for music. So I don't know, maybe we're going to also decide that entertainment trumps everything else. We're going to see a lot of retro fetishism artistic necrophilia. And maybe some of it's even going to be interesting. But we have to figure out the ethics around it, and I don't think anyone's even wanting to have that conversation. We're still all excited about the shiny new toy instead of thinking about what it means.
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Q: Do you think that one day voice modeling is something that could buttress this tendency to keep revisiting the same pop archetypes?
A: Oh, 100%. Are you kidding me? There's so many labels with gold mines worth of master tapes that they're just dying to reanimate. That's definitely going to happen.
We'll see what the public decides that they want, or what they don't want. We also decided as a society that it's okay to not pay for music. So I don't know, maybe we're going to also decide that entertainment trumps everything else. We're going to see a lot of retro fetishism artistic necrophilia. And maybe some of it's even going to be interesting. But we have to figure out the ethics around it, and I don't think anyone's even wanting to have that conversation. We're still all excited about the shiny new toy instead of thinking about what it means.
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link
um.
― pplains, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
here we go!
https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/kiss-achieves-music-immortality-with-new-hologram-bandmates-for-live-gigs-1559888.html
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:25 (three months ago) link
The logical next step is to make their aging audience into holograms too.
Imagine you don’t have to walk up those endless arena hallways and stairs anymore on the way to your seat, just watch the concert straight from the retirement home and see your younger self stagediving & crowdsurfing.
― Siegbran, Sunday, 3 December 2023 17:49 (three months ago) link