Worst commissioner of the three major (American) sports

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selig with a bullet. mlb's flourished as a business but he's a repulsive old toad who consistently makes infuriating decisions

i like stern because of his cool gangster ass 'tude.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I will say MLB's technology/blackout policies drive me up a fuckin' wall, I really fail to understand how blocking Youtube videos and preventing mlb.tv customers from watching their OWN TEAMS could possibly increase revenue

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I find football almost unwatchable on TV. It's boring as fuck, five seconds of action followed by 40 seconds of nothing followed by 2 minutes of commercials.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

go back to russia motherfucker

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

The latter seems to be hostility from decrepit old owners and the people they have TV contracts with. Regional television is where all the money comes from for now.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

the existence of mlb.tv and being able to stream it via Boxee/etc. is still miles ahead of the NFL and NBA

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Goodell is getting enough run here. The NFL would be number 1 in America with or without him. The players despise him. I guess he managed to avoid missing games this season but that lockout was ridiculous to begin with given that the league is awash in money.

polyphonic, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

football is the best tv sport because w/ so much going on at once you pretty much need replays

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

im cool with goodell after he came down hard on those cheating god damn saints. teach those animals a lesson rodge!!!!

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

poly otm, Goddell always struck me as a bully who wants the fans to believe that the only way to make the game safer is through a confusing, inconsistant system of fines and penalties that do little outside of increasing the league's revenue and baffling the players to that point where they have no idea what is a legal hit anymore

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

plus you got that 18-game schedule thing, christ

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

well his bigger problem is that there isn't really a way to make the game safer

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also the 18 game thing has been tabled for the foreseeable future.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did the NFL player's union express an opinion about paying bounties for causing injuries? My guess is that there's no way in hell they could endorse that idea or even stay neutral on it.

Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

right, so what the NFL needs is more money put into pensions for retired players and research into player safety and less of this "the game is unsafe because James Harrison is a cheating monster" mentality xp

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not a huge Goodell fan by any means, but given that about every aspect of the NFL game today is different than it's ever been with regard to popularity, player behavior, owner behavior, coach behavior, the rushing river of $$$, media spotlight, soap operas, etc he's doing an okay job despite going in blind.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also the 18 game thing has been tabled for the foreseeable future.

still had to listen Goddell pretend he had no idea what the difference was between a preseason game and a regular season game

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

well his bigger problem is that there isn't really a way to make the game safer

― iatee, Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

knee-high grass on every field. boom. safer game.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, I'd watch that!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Goddell always struck me as a bully who blah blah blah blah blah blah

Quit misspelling his name please, you're making me irrationally angry.

Nobody watches baseball on tv until the post-season because hardly any game during the regular season ever matters.

This is hooey, JF -- I watch about 5-6 games a week and listen to another 3-5 on Gameday Audio or with the tv on in the background. (Working from home

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, i'll cop to that being hooey. I'm working with a very small sample size (me, my immediate family, and my own perceptions). lol

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm enjoying the Yankees getting mashed into tomato paste right now!

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

god i can't choose all of these guys are terrible

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

stern is prob my fave for sentimental reasons but he should have hung it up a while ago

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

goodell seems like the worst on a personal level, like one of the few human beings i would be unwilling to have a conversation with

call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Worst of these 3, I'd say Stern>Goodell>Selig, which is not to praise Selig at all.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes you hear fans of mlb/nba/nhl muttering darkly about conspiracies that give big-market/popular television teams an edge through officiating or whatever.

the nba is the only one i actually believe this about.

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

isn't there some evidence for this happening w/ stars? vaguely remember reading about it

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think it's a conspiracy, I just think Stern is happy to let officiating suck until fans start turning away from the game because of it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes its subconscious even

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

favorite part of basketball games is when a star has obviously committed a foul, but one of his lesser teammates immediately raises their hand to take credit

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't watch much nba, but i saw game six of the kings-lakers series live in 2002.

also didn't stern once decree -- in the middle of the season -- that the first round of that year's playoffs would suddenly be best-of-7 rather than best-of-5?

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

not much Selig can do about incompetant management

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they could enforce a salary floor and a salary cap. But apparently the baseball public likes the competitive imbalance (I don't necessarily disagree with them.)

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's still amazingly balanced compared to euro sports

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

the NFL's competitive balance seems to have made the game bigger than ever though, so I dunno what would happen

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have a hard time considering the NFL to be facing serious problems. Like 40 of the 50 most valuable sports franchises on earth are NFL teams. Injuries are just something people idly worry about during the 8 hours a day they're thinking about the NFL.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

a lot could change very quickly w/ lawsuits and they're 40 of the 50 most valuable spots franchises on earth because it's america's biggest sport and america has a lot of money. but more people on the planet earth know who jeremy lin is than eli manning.

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

venus otoh

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

NFL needs a Chinese-American QB

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the NFL is dancing on the edge of a dropoff in popularity similar to boxing's decline, due to an inherent viciousness in the sport that can't be ignored or rationalized for too many more years. I'm totally guessing, though.

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

MLB though, from 1994 to now, has been an abandoned sandcastle. The wild card. The strike. The expansion teams.

Just as a matter of survival, I'm not sure wild cards and (further) expansion could have been avoided. I'd also say that last year proves that the wild card doesn't preclude a wild and unforgettable finish to the season (admittedly, it was a perfect storm that won't be duplicated soon).

clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

they could enforce a salary floor and a salary cap. But apparently the baseball public likes the competitive imbalance (I don't necessarily disagree with them.)

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:36 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink


this is a lot harder than it seems for a lot of reasons - salary floor in particular would force small market teams to use their resources on free agents they don't really need rather than player development to produce future stars. having a much longer player development cycle makes it difficult to draw easy parallels between baseball and the other major team sports

ciderpress, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like the big tipping point with boxing's popularity in America is that American kids stopped doing it (and started playing football.) But it seems like high school football is as big as ever. xp

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

err I guess that's not really a tipping point and more of a trend sry

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

"they could enforce a salary floor and a salary cap."

How in god's name could they do this? Do you not understand that there is a Players Union?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

would you let your kids play football? xp

mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't think football is going anywhere, particularly now that so many people (advertisers, corporations, etc) are dumping huge dollars into high school football.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

How in god's name could they do this? Do you not understand that there is a Players Union?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, the NFL, NHL and NBA have players unions too.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've talked about this with friends - I'd rather my kid boxed up through Golden Gloves than played high school football. Football and rugby would be last on the list of things I'd want progeny to play.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

now that ownership groups are paying 2b for franchises (in a bad economy!) I think you'll see MLB have a financial crisis and an ensuing salary cap pretty soon even with their PLAYERS UNION

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

hs and college football are even more problematic than the nfl. espn and nike making money from an unpaid 15 y/o getting concussions is not a long-term biz model really

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

“If you look at the numbers, including in the Native American community, in a Native American community poll nine out of 10 supported the name. Eight out of 10 Americans in the general population would not like us to change the name. So we’re listening and being respectful for people who disagree, but let’s not forget this is the name of a football team.”

een, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:12 (7 months ago) Permalink

lmao

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:19 (7 months ago) Permalink

i watched the goodell thing and there was this amazing cringe comedy moment where he goes 'i can't control the weather--' and then fake snow starts coming down around him while hes giving this aint i a stinker grin

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:37 (7 months ago) Permalink

"Native American" community? Why not just say R</I>edskins community?

pplains, Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:01 (7 months ago) Permalink

Whoops, almost gave away the secret to that.

pplains, Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:02 (7 months ago) Permalink


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