selig with a bullet. mlb's flourished as a business but he's a repulsive old toad who consistently makes infuriating decisions
i like stern because of his cool gangster ass 'tude.
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
I will say MLB's technology/blackout policies drive me up a fuckin' wall, I really fail to understand how blocking Youtube videos and preventing mlb.tv customers from watching their OWN TEAMS could possibly increase revenue
― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
I find football almost unwatchable on TV. It's boring as fuck, five seconds of action followed by 40 seconds of nothing followed by 2 minutes of commercials.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
go back to russia motherfucker
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
The latter seems to be hostility from decrepit old owners and the people they have TV contracts with. Regional television is where all the money comes from for now.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
the existence of mlb.tv and being able to stream it via Boxee/etc. is still miles ahead of the NFL and NBA
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think Goodell is getting enough run here. The NFL would be number 1 in America with or without him. The players despise him. I guess he managed to avoid missing games this season but that lockout was ridiculous to begin with given that the league is awash in money.
― polyphonic, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
football is the best tv sport because w/ so much going on at once you pretty much need replays
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
im cool with goodell after he came down hard on those cheating god damn saints. teach those animals a lesson rodge!!!!
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
poly otm, Goddell always struck me as a bully who wants the fans to believe that the only way to make the game safer is through a confusing, inconsistant system of fines and penalties that do little outside of increasing the league's revenue and baffling the players to that point where they have no idea what is a legal hit anymore
― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
plus you got that 18-game schedule thing, christ
well his bigger problem is that there isn't really a way to make the game safer
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also the 18 game thing has been tabled for the foreseeable future.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Did the NFL player's union express an opinion about paying bounties for causing injuries? My guess is that there's no way in hell they could endorse that idea or even stay neutral on it.
― Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
right, so what the NFL needs is more money put into pensions for retired players and research into player safety and less of this "the game is unsafe because James Harrison is a cheating monster" mentality xp
― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm not a huge Goodell fan by any means, but given that about every aspect of the NFL game today is different than it's ever been with regard to popularity, player behavior, owner behavior, coach behavior, the rushing river of $$$, media spotlight, soap operas, etc he's doing an okay job despite going in blind.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
still had to listen Goddell pretend he had no idea what the difference was between a preseason game and a regular season game
― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
― iatee, Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
knee-high grass on every field. boom. safer game.
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh shit, I'd watch that!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Goddell always struck me as a bully who blah blah blah blah blah blah
Quit misspelling his name please, you're making me irrationally angry.
Nobody watches baseball on tv until the post-season because hardly any game during the regular season ever matters.
This is hooey, JF -- I watch about 5-6 games a week and listen to another 3-5 on Gameday Audio or with the tv on in the background. (Working from home
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, i'll cop to that being hooey. I'm working with a very small sample size (me, my immediate family, and my own perceptions). lol
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm enjoying the Yankees getting mashed into tomato paste right now!
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
god i can't choose all of these guys are terrible
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
stern is prob my fave for sentimental reasons but he should have hung it up a while ago
goodell seems like the worst on a personal level, like one of the few human beings i would be unwilling to have a conversation with
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Worst of these 3, I'd say Stern>Goodell>Selig, which is not to praise Selig at all.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
sometimes you hear fans of mlb/nba/nhl muttering darkly about conspiracies that give big-market/popular television teams an edge through officiating or whatever.
the nba is the only one i actually believe this about.
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
isn't there some evidence for this happening w/ stars? vaguely remember reading about it
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think it's a conspiracy, I just think Stern is happy to let officiating suck until fans start turning away from the game because of it.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
sometimes its subconscious even
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
favorite part of basketball games is when a star has obviously committed a foul, but one of his lesser teammates immediately raises their hand to take credit
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't watch much nba, but i saw game six of the kings-lakers series live in 2002.
also didn't stern once decree -- in the middle of the season -- that the first round of that year's playoffs would suddenly be best-of-7 rather than best-of-5?
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
not much Selig can do about incompetant management
― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they could enforce a salary floor and a salary cap. But apparently the baseball public likes the competitive imbalance (I don't necessarily disagree with them.)
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's still amazingly balanced compared to euro sports
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
the NFL's competitive balance seems to have made the game bigger than ever though, so I dunno what would happen
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have a hard time considering the NFL to be facing serious problems. Like 40 of the 50 most valuable sports franchises on earth are NFL teams. Injuries are just something people idly worry about during the 8 hours a day they're thinking about the NFL.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
a lot could change very quickly w/ lawsuits and they're 40 of the 50 most valuable spots franchises on earth because it's america's biggest sport and america has a lot of money. but more people on the planet earth know who jeremy lin is than eli manning.
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
venus otoh
NFL needs a Chinese-American QB
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think the NFL is dancing on the edge of a dropoff in popularity similar to boxing's decline, due to an inherent viciousness in the sport that can't be ignored or rationalized for too many more years. I'm totally guessing, though.
― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
MLB though, from 1994 to now, has been an abandoned sandcastle. The wild card. The strike. The expansion teams.
Just as a matter of survival, I'm not sure wild cards and (further) expansion could have been avoided. I'd also say that last year proves that the wild card doesn't preclude a wild and unforgettable finish to the season (admittedly, it was a perfect storm that won't be duplicated soon).
― clemenza, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
they could enforce a salary floor and a salary cap. But apparently the baseball public likes the competitive imbalance (I don't necessarily disagree with them.)― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:36 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:36 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ciderpress, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel like the big tipping point with boxing's popularity in America is that American kids stopped doing it (and started playing football.) But it seems like high school football is as big as ever. xp
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
err I guess that's not really a tipping point and more of a trend sry
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
"they could enforce a salary floor and a salary cap."
How in god's name could they do this? Do you not understand that there is a Players Union?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
would you let your kids play football? xp
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i don't think football is going anywhere, particularly now that so many people (advertisers, corporations, etc) are dumping huge dollars into high school football.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, the NFL, NHL and NBA have players unions too.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've talked about this with friends - I'd rather my kid boxed up through Golden Gloves than played high school football. Football and rugby would be last on the list of things I'd want progeny to play.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
now that ownership groups are paying 2b for franchises (in a bad economy!) I think you'll see MLB have a financial crisis and an ensuing salary cap pretty soon even with their PLAYERS UNION
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
hs and college football are even more problematic than the nfl. espn and nike making money from an unpaid 15 y/o getting concussions is not a long-term biz model really
― iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haha, yeah, this happened: As NFL Referees Lockout Continues, Gov. Scott Walker Calls For Return Of Unionized Refs
― a shark with a rippling six pack (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
I know it's football and all but that gif is kind of worrisome; his slip comes out of nowhere, he puts a lot pressure on his left knee and ankle and lands awkwardly on his left leg with a lot of opportunity to screw that ankle, too.
― The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Agree. If that guy had gotten hurt, the players probably would have seriously considering walking out until the real refs were back due to unsafe working conditions. This is a disaster waiting to happen.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
I'm still kinda hoping for a players walk-out.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:00 (7 months ago) Permalink
Pretty sure I wound up a Goodell voter.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:05 (7 months ago) Permalink
Players should just start calling the game themselves like pick-up basketball.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:06 (7 months ago) Permalink