Worst commissioner of the three major (American) sports

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Basketball is still pretty much the same game it was 20 years ago. NFL is just a powerhouse organization that only gets bigger and better, no matter what problems it faces.

MLB though, from 1994 to now, has been an abandoned sandcastle. The wild card. The strike. The expansion teams. The disparity between the have's and the have-not's. Tying the All-Star game into the postseason. Rearranging the leagues and still having the NL West being what it is. THE GODDAM INTERLEAGUE PLAY FUCKING EVERYTHING UP. The steroids. The late starts. The season not concluding until after Election Day. I honestly could keep going.

Fuck Bud Selig. Fuck him in that wrinkled-up old vadge he calls a mouth.

pplains, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ would agree, if ML baseball mattered any more.

Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

See there? It once did!

pplains, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is Bud Selig by MILES.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

the vast majority of nhl teams are in america so i will vote gary bettman

polyphonic, Saturday, 14 April 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

There will be kids drafted over the next couple of years who weren't even born when MLB had a labor stoppage and every sport has had a more recent labor issue than baseball, sometimes two.
Interleague and the wild card are unquestionable successes.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Selig's a bastard but so are all sports commissioners. Baseball is healthier than any other point my lifetime, so I'm not that bothered by him anymore.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Basketball is still pretty much the same game it was 20 years ago. NFL is just a powerhouse organization that only gets bigger and better, no matter what problems it faces.

I dunno, the nfl is facing some pretty fundamental problems these days - people aren't talking about whether baseball or basketball should even be played - and it hasn't made inroads overseas

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

people aren't talking about whether baseball...should even be played

I'm talking about it, because it's boring as all fuck.

I dunno, the nfl is facing some pretty fundamental problems these days...and it hasn't made inroads overseas

Not necessarily true. NFL has a healthy following in the UK and when NFL Europe existed as sort of an expo/farm league, it drew crowds.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

not the kinda crowds that create a sustainable business

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

MLB though, from 1994 to now, has been an abandoned sandcastle. The wild card. The strike. The expansion teams. The disparity between the have's and the have-not's. Tying the All-Star game into the postseason. Rearranging the leagues and still having the NL West being what it is. THE GODDAM INTERLEAGUE PLAY FUCKING EVERYTHING UP. The steroids. The late starts. The season not concluding until after Election Day. I honestly could keep going.

outside of the steroid thing I don't really think any of these are problems - is interleague play really that bad an idea?

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

would agree, if ML baseball mattered any more.

what exactly are your criteria for what matters? it's still a big deal

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf else did the baseball people expect when they sold their souls to a tawdry Milwaukee used-car salesman?!?

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

The disparity between the have's and the have-not's.

This issue in baseball bothers me, but yes I know Yankees and Red Sox fans differ, and others may too

curmudgeon, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

competitive inbalance is not as much of an issue in baseball - regardless of payroll or talent levels, there's so much variance in the game that even the best teams only win about 65%, and the WS is almost never won by the best team

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

That problem exists in all three leagues fwiw.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i do miss the days when the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Kansas City Royals were successful and competitive franchises.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

not much Selig can do about incompetant management

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

The steroid scandal has wounded MLB very badly. Selig was instrumental in trying to sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened.

Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

competitive imbalance has been a part of baseball since day one
How did PEDs really wound MLB? Revenues, attendance and fantasy participation are higher than ever. It wounded baseball with useless sportswriters.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seems like people always point to NFL ratings as proof of baseball's irrelevance and demise.

Well, yeah, there are 240 regular season NFL games every year. There are 2400 regular season MLB games.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

The majority of the former on Sundays, making for perfect TV events.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are 2400 regular season MLB games.

Part of the reason it's hard to give a fuck about the regular season. With the NFL, each week the tv audience congregates to watch a slate of games that have immediate implications toward division rankings. Nobody watches baseball on tv until the post-season because hardly any game during the regular season ever matters. Baseball (at least in the regular season) has become a sport you see played live rather than watch on tv.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lots of people watch baseball on TV. That's why the Dodgers recently became the most valuable franchise in all of sports.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

generally, the only times i pay attention during the baseball season are the 1st and last months, and when favored teams play hated rivals (phillies v. mutts, yankees v. red suxx).

onibaba o'reilly (Eisbaer), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

bettman really deserves this

High powered Texas lawyer (symsymsym), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd rather listen to baseball on the radio than watch it (in part because my local team's radio crew has always been 1000x better than its TV crew), but I find football almost unwatchable on TV. It's boring as fuck, five seconds of action followed by 40 seconds of nothing followed by 2 minutes of commercials.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bettman wins by default, given that it's his fault hockey is only barely a 'major' sport

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Dodgers just got bought for $2 bil, and the woeful Padres are about to get purchased for something like 700mil. Just because you dudes don't enjoy watching regular season baseball doesn't mean people aren't watching. The Giants fans in SF are like a virus. They're everywhere! GO AWAY

polyphonic, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nobody watches baseball on tv until the post-season

Well, nobody watches every game but tons of people watch on TV. You also have to consider radio listeners, as MLB is the only sport that really works on the radio

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

bettman really deserves this

yes yes yes

polyphonic, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Giants fans in SF are like a virus. They're everywhere! GO AWAY

lol. how dare there be fans of the hometown team?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

selig with a bullet. mlb's flourished as a business but he's a repulsive old toad who consistently makes infuriating decisions

i like stern because of his cool gangster ass 'tude.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I will say MLB's technology/blackout policies drive me up a fuckin' wall, I really fail to understand how blocking Youtube videos and preventing mlb.tv customers from watching their OWN TEAMS could possibly increase revenue

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I find football almost unwatchable on TV. It's boring as fuck, five seconds of action followed by 40 seconds of nothing followed by 2 minutes of commercials.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

go back to russia motherfucker

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

The latter seems to be hostility from decrepit old owners and the people they have TV contracts with. Regional television is where all the money comes from for now.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

the existence of mlb.tv and being able to stream it via Boxee/etc. is still miles ahead of the NFL and NBA

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Goodell is getting enough run here. The NFL would be number 1 in America with or without him. The players despise him. I guess he managed to avoid missing games this season but that lockout was ridiculous to begin with given that the league is awash in money.

polyphonic, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

football is the best tv sport because w/ so much going on at once you pretty much need replays

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

im cool with goodell after he came down hard on those cheating god damn saints. teach those animals a lesson rodge!!!!

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

poly otm, Goddell always struck me as a bully who wants the fans to believe that the only way to make the game safer is through a confusing, inconsistant system of fines and penalties that do little outside of increasing the league's revenue and baffling the players to that point where they have no idea what is a legal hit anymore

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

plus you got that 18-game schedule thing, christ

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

well his bigger problem is that there isn't really a way to make the game safer

iatee, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also the 18 game thing has been tabled for the foreseeable future.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did the NFL player's union express an opinion about paying bounties for causing injuries? My guess is that there's no way in hell they could endorse that idea or even stay neutral on it.

Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

right, so what the NFL needs is more money put into pensions for retired players and research into player safety and less of this "the game is unsafe because James Harrison is a cheating monster" mentality xp

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not a huge Goodell fan by any means, but given that about every aspect of the NFL game today is different than it's ever been with regard to popularity, player behavior, owner behavior, coach behavior, the rushing river of $$$, media spotlight, soap operas, etc he's doing an okay job despite going in blind.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also the 18 game thing has been tabled for the foreseeable future.

still had to listen Goddell pretend he had no idea what the difference was between a preseason game and a regular season game

you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

well his bigger problem is that there isn't really a way to make the game safer

― iatee, Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

knee-high grass on every field. boom. safer game.

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, I'd watch that!

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

RE-DO THIS FUCKING POLL

frogbs, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 04:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

at least some instant replay

Mordy, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 04:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, it would probably come out the exact same way, if we have any replacement mods running this joint.

pplains, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 04:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fact that Goodell got only 3 votes in this makes me want to puke

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, May 8, 2012 2:49 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

give him time, bill

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 2:54 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can I take my bow now? If this poll was taken now, it should be a shutout and Goddell should win. The guy is utterly incompetent. Also a Nazi

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

This ref thing is fucking amazing to me. As a Bears fan I want to do nothing but chuckle hardily at the Packers throwing away a game in the final seconds, but not like this.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol bill i just came here to copy/paste that exchange

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

who knew it would take Roger Goddell ruining football to get me to start watching it regularly again? I am spending every game waiting for the exasperated, crestfallen cries of discontent from the announcers about how the replacement refs are destroying America and I don't think I've ever had so much delight watching ie the Jets come from behind to win (although Tebow getting beaned in the head with the ball was a factor there as much as the terrible refs)

also this is totally against the spirit of the sport but anything that screws over the Packers is automatically awesome to me

at the end of the day I think I just like carnivals, which is what the NFL currently is

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

looooooool

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^ obv terrible, but also the funniest fucking thing

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean why did that even happen

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

fuck wearing a hat

barthes simpson, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

fear of a black hat

pandemic, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

What does he slip on? A cap?

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

apparently refs will throw their hat if a receiver steps out of bounds and is ineligible, but dude never really got close to the sideline and clearly stayed in bounds, so it really looks like the ref was just all "fuck it, gonna throw my hat under his feet *fling*"

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

COMEDY FOR EVERYONE

cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

barthes simpson, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

the refs havent screwed my team yet so im still enjoying it all. would happily vote for selig again

Hungry4Ass, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know it's football and all but that gif is kind of worrisome; his slip comes out of nowhere, he puts a lot pressure on his left knee and ankle and lands awkwardly on his left leg with a lot of opportunity to screw that ankle, too.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

pplains, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Occupy Wall Street has a Facebook post today about how the NFL debacle shows "all our issues are connected" through the hiring of scabs.

anyway, best football season ever

kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know it's football and all but that gif is kind of worrisome; his slip comes out of nowhere, he puts a lot pressure on his left knee and ankle and lands awkwardly on his left leg with a lot of opportunity to screw that ankle, too.

― The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agree. If that guy had gotten hurt, the players probably would have seriously considering walking out until the real refs were back due to unsafe working conditions. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm still kinda hoping for a players walk-out.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure I wound up a Goodell voter.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Players should just start calling the game themselves like pick-up basketball.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

At the commissioner's press conference today, he appeared caught off guard by a question from 49ers tight end Vernon Davis: Why doesn't the league take care of its former players?

Goodell's scattershot answer included the notion that the healthcare benefits for current NFL players are "the best in the world." Past players? Not so much. Every NBA player who played from 2000-01 on receives some post-career benefits, and in MLB, all it takes is one day on an active roster to get lifetime coverage. But in the sport where they need it the most, NFL players (if they played three seasons) receive five years of healthcare after retirement, and then they're cut off.

the nfl players union deserves a lot of blame for this state of affairs, but man roger goodell is a prick

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah i hate him way more than i hate selig

polyphonic, Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah seeing goodell finish a very distant third up there just looks ridiculous now. just a complete joke of a man, almost wonder if tagliabue set goodell up to provide a long term argument to the 'he was no pete rozelle' talk he got when he retired. the problems baseball has - loss of viewers, relevance, aging of market - are things you can't really blame him for. cancelling the world series hurt the sport's popularity more than steroids but its effects were shaken off pretty quickly. stern's obv the most important historically to his sport and deserves alot of credit but should've retired years ago, there are alot of black marks on that record and most of them came in the past ten years or so.

balls, Saturday, 1 February 2014 19:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

Selig is a putz

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

“If you look at the numbers, including in the Native American community, in a Native American community poll nine out of 10 supported the name. Eight out of 10 Americans in the general population would not like us to change the name. So we’re listening and being respectful for people who disagree, but let’s not forget this is the name of a football team.”

een, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

lmao

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:19 (9 months ago) Permalink

i watched the goodell thing and there was this amazing cringe comedy moment where he goes 'i can't control the weather--' and then fake snow starts coming down around him while hes giving this aint i a stinker grin

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 1 February 2014 22:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

"Native American" community? Why not just say R</I>edskins community?

pplains, Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:01 (9 months ago) Permalink

Whoops, almost gave away the secret to that.

pplains, Sunday, 2 February 2014 00:02 (9 months ago) Permalink


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