Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

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well the judge can mandate you be held in prison while awaiting trial, that's what bail is all about

― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:45 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought this was the distinction b/t jail and prison. to a great extent, jail is where they put you for the time being. prison is where you go after conviction. no?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

oh somebody noted that above

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

tbh i am trying not to follow this story too much because it's making me crazy but he is probably in a county jail in protective custody or something. depends on jurisdiction but most prisons are for inmates serving sentences of over a year.

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Prison = more serious felonies
jail = not so serious

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i get that, i just meant, in the current circumstance, is it possible/likely that GZ would be considered "in jail" legally even if he was not literally in a jail. minor point i guess.

goole, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

he's "in custody", iirc. that's all i've heard so far. i'd be really surprised if they just threw him in with the general population in a whatever-county jail.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

George Zimmerman ‏ @Real_Geo_Zimmer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Fact: 2nd amendment guarantees my right to bear arms and defend myself. Which amendment guarantees right to break into houses? #GZFTW

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

hashtag that's def. not trending

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Gotta hand it to him he's really working that flag for all it's worth.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

#GZFU

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2010/07/21/lindsay-lohan-twitter-jail/

mark s, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link

George Zimmerman ‏ @Real_Geo_Zimmer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Tumblr Whites in Sanford & surrounding areas, listen up: You need to get out now.

the late great, Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

George Zimmerman ‏ @Real_Geo_Zimmer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open

Also: I am armed. Just saying.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

vinelink.com says

ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL 10/05/1983 28 In Custody SEMINOLE COUNTY JAIL SEMINOLE COUNTY JAIL

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

no blue checkmark

man down (D-40), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

You guys are honestly drooling fucking morons.

easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link

lol

man down (D-40), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

not news

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

whiney otm

pleural eff u son (k3vin k.), Thursday, 12 April 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck y'all

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

it's ok hoos i believe the twitter is real

kneel aurmstrong (harbl), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

If they were real, it would show a level of recklessness that boggles the mind. A man on trial for 2nd degree murder, who knows his every move will be publicized and dissected on national tv, doesn't spout off to the public like that. I suspect they are fake. Sniff test fail.

Aimless, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

the most convincing part is the first tweet link to a donations page littered with quotations by edmund burke, henrik ibsen, thomas paine and james loewen

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

the most convincing part is the first tweet link to a donations page littered with quotations by edmund burke, henrik ibsen, thomas paine and james loewen
--BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer)

Aka the website that's been acknowledged as real by his attorneys

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

I still love you, HOOS

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

Aka the website that's been acknowledged as real by his attorneys

wheels within wheels

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

haha i was waiting for whiney to go thermonuke on ya'll

lebron traveled (am0n), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

If they were real, it would show a level of recklessness that boggles the mind. A man on trial for 2nd degree murder, who knows his every move will be publicized and dissected on national tv, doesn't spout off to the public like that. I suspect they are fake. Sniff test fail.

right Zimmerman has shown himself to be a paragon of self-restraint and sound judgement

THE SPACEMENT TAPES (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

this appeared overnight in my neighborhood a week or so back

http://oi43.tinypic.com/2je4vup.jpg

lebron traveled (am0n), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

When someone has a gun in his hand and the safety off, it should never be "an accident". Pulling the gun out is a declaration of intent to harm.

Aimless, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

not attaching much significance to stray turns of phrase in live interviews

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

DUI crashes are "accidents," too, and they often kill people, and they are crimes.

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

pretty strong viral ad from skittles there

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 April 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

fucking pisses me off that that one word is going to be what people pick up and run with

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Friday, 13 April 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

skittles?

J0rdan S., Friday, 13 April 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

That one word is obviously inapplicable, whatever Trayvon's mom may have said. So it is irrelevant that she said it.

Aimless, Friday, 13 April 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

Struck me last night, very idly wondering about the twitter account and the website that something like the following might be happening.

i: GZ's first clownshow lawyers (rtd) said the website was "authentic"
ii: plainly this needn't mean GZ actually coded, designed or wrote any of it -- or necessarily picked the grafitti image, let alone riffled thru his big book of handy Ibsen quotes etc, just that at some point he OK'd it.
iii: my speculation is that as GZ was peekin fearfully thru the curtains sometime somewhere muttering omg omg omfg, 1 x Passing Savvy Grifter suggested to him the notion of a support website, complete with paypal donation button etc. "To tell your side of the story to the world!"
iv: GZ: "yes! a website! with paypal! what's paypal? where do you get a website? etc"
v: PSG then said, don't sweat it, I'll design it for you. And did so, and showed to ZG, who was amazed and grateful and excited and did not for one second see any of what might be coming...
vi: PSG then said, we will also need a twitter account to juice up traffic and etc, and set this up too
vii: GZ is -- let us stipulate -- several hoods short of a klanmeet when it comes to brains, foresight, self-awareness etc, and has very enthusiastically signed off on all this, perhaps even passing on a few tidbits of his upcoming media appointments (viz the Hannity info), to give it substance.

In my model, PSG, whoever s/he may be, is not (necessarily) ideologically in sync with GZ at all. He is however entirely in sync with that donations paypal account. And quite happy short-term to tweet stuff that keeps the traffic going, however much it harms GZ medium-term.

GZ may or may not ever have had the keys to that twitter account. He may well have forgotten that it was ever proposed; or even known it came into existence.

mark s, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

My work here is done.

mark s, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago) link

sounds plausible to me

THE SPACEMENT TAPES (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link

if only there was a way to stop hypothesizing and wait for the truth to come out

da croupier, Friday, 13 April 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link

If only there was someone to help keep threads in line, make sure that only acceptable content was posted, a 'police' figure of sorts, hmmmmmmmmmmm

THE SPACEMENT TAPES (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 13 April 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

who will be volunteer to be the "Zimmerman" figure I wonder

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

I know I've spent too much time on ILX when I start misreading CNN.com headlines as "Rodney King pleads for clam"

an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link

Can't we all just get abalone?

s.clover, Friday, 13 April 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link

I know I've spent too much time on ILX when I start misreading CNN.com headlines as "Rodney King pleads for clam"
--an independent online phenomenon (DJP)

This made my morning ty sir

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 13 April 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

kat stacks tweets from jail, recommended follow

lag∞n, Friday, 13 April 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of reality doesn't pass the sniff test, including zimmerman's lawyers, the GOP presidential primary candidates, the bush years; etc. the only rational conclusion is that reality is fake. should've voted "we’re living in a simulation and it gets shut down" in the human extinction scenarios poll.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Should've voted "Robocop turns into a documentary"

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link


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