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i would have posted earlier, but i was out of town for 2 weeks and when i got back this thread already had a billion posts and a billion youtubes for me to catch up on. there are so many artists on this thread i've never heard of. a lot of it is great, but there's so much that's kinda forgettable. i haven't really listened to current black music in at least a year or more so i have little to contribute.

the closest i've gotten was stealing a promo from my mom of the Aloe Blacc album (?!). kinda fits in here. a mix of post-dilla hip hop, post-sa-ra soul and even some latin stuff where he sings in spanish. not a bad album. but it's from 2006. here's the first track. really great http://www.robotsinheat.com/temp/WholeWorld.mp3

oh yeah, Flying Lotus had a bbc essential mix. it's really fucked up
http://www.newmixes.com/flying_lotus-essential_mix-sat-11-29-2008.html

and while listening to a lot of these youtubes, found this korean artist Asoto Union. not exactly this thread, but i think papawheelie would love it. smooth and funky. kinda like some japfunk thread he started

here's another one i thought was kinda rad

Samon Kawamura - Try (feat. Aloe Blacc)

this isn't r'n'b, but thought people here would be interested. post dilla chop'n'thump instrumental hip hop. amazing

Onra - for fans of dilla's donuts and sublime frequencies

Jaxon giving me some material to catch up on now!

Anyone see this post from Muhsinah (who frankly, pwns this thread):

http://www.muhsinah.com/2008/11/11/check-this-out/

11 Nov 2008 | from www.muhsinah.com
My little brother’s EP drops today.11/11His name is 00Genesis.The future of the future.Get it. NOW.

I'll be hunting for 00Genesis later today along with Jaxon's additions.

I spent some serious time listening to Sy Smith recently. Yeah, I wasn't the only one underwhelmed, but far from terrible (some truly embarrassing lyrical moments though, for sure). However, the broken beat track (Art of You) found its way into regular rotation for me.

And speaking of Japanese additions to this, Cro-Magnon did a minimal, rhodes heavy track with Steve Spacek that's worth noting (Time Flies) in 2008.

Tonight's the night I play catch up on this thread again, so expect some live blogging soon
(especially on the Not For Sale: Red Bull Music Academy Toronto 2007 mix)

PPP album is sorta/kinda a live(-ish) band-oriented spin on Press Play (the back half of PP especially) with no rapping, a couple '60s throwbacks, and a couple nods to Basement Jaxx (at their most Funkadelic).

Remember when Britney and Waajeed were photographed together? Some of this stuff could be fronted by Britney -- "Go, Go, Go" especially.

Very different from Triple P. Love it.

Anyone know much about Computer Jay?

His song '1000 Fold' ft. Gray Kid on the 2007 'Art Don't Sleep' compilation (that also featured Flying Lotus) has entered my regular rotation.

Discogs entry shows little more than what I have (some edits on another artists project).

Youtube results are somewhat interesting live sets, and show a LOT of potential, but not quite on par with this track I have.

PPP album is sorta/kinda a live(-ish) band-oriented spin on Press Play (the back half of PP especially) with no rapping, a couple '60s throwbacks, and a couple nods to Basement Jaxx (at their most Funkadelic).

Other than liking their other work, the Press Play and Jaxx comparisons are the first things I've heard to make me enthusiastic about hearing it.

http://www.muhsinah.com/2008/11/11/check-this-out/

11 Nov 2008 | from www.muhsinah.com
My little brother’s EP drops today.11/11His name is 00Genesis.The future of the future.Get it. NOW.

I'll be hunting for 00Genesis later today along with Jaxon's additions.

I grabbed this compilation in search of 00Genesis and unearthed some other gems in that Flying Lotus/off-kilter Sa-Ra beats/Post-Dilla vein:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1221095

A1 Powell (7) Dimension X
A2 Jackhigh Arachnid Eyes
A3 Rustie Dog Mask
B1 Hubert Daviz Smut Cut
B2 fLako Inside
B3 00Genesis Dream Catcher

Also found a Jackhigh project (album? compilation?) that featured 00Genesis called Interplanetary Thoughts.

Been a bit busy to keep up with this thread this week, so hoperfully I'll be able to do that over the weekend. Btw, I'm totally down w/ international additions and some chop n thump instrumentals, so long as they don't become the focus of the thread (which they haven't, carry on).

Remember when Britney and Waajeed were photographed together?

I can't find this. :-/

and some chop n thump instrumentals, so long as they don't become the focus of the thread (which they haven't, carry on)

I've mostly been avoiding instrumentals, but I thought 00Geneis was worth nothing being Muhsinah's brother.

However, if occasionally welcomed: guided by seeking more JackHigh, I also grabbed a compilation called "Metro Sampler Line 2&3" that has some more of this off-kilter, sampler based, rhodes heavy, beats that fits the bill.

Loving the PPP albums so far, esp "The Ghost of Aveiro"

I've mostly been avoiding instrumentals, but I thought 00Geneis was worth nothing being Muhsinah's brother.

Uhhhh, worth NOTING.

(and how many mixtapes Waajeed got???)

Waajeed got too much to name. there's so much that i've found it hard to even know where to start with him. suggestions other than the usual remixes etc?

Flying Lotus is some nasty shit.

Did you all follow directions and download the pre-Abundance mixtape? Lots of remixes, TWO different versions of "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover," good-ish stuff. Album's probably tighter.

this kid i used to know in LA djs this kinda stuff.

http://www.myspace.com/djkaleem
http://colderthanaratsass.blogspot.com/
i'm currently listening to his peven everett mix. it's mostly his upbeat housey stuff, but he's got some weirder slow stuff too. definitely a name to check out.

it's funny how this stuff started in detroit but is so LA centric now. guess it makes sense since jay dee moved there and sa-ra is from there.

oh shit, just realized rozzie daime is my friend's friend reese that sang on the sa-ra album

anyone know about this Antantiquity thing? compiled by garth trinidad

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Atlantiquity/release/568528

Tracklisting:
1 Kleeer Tonight (SA-RA All Stars Remix)
2 Slave Watching You (Vikter Duplaix Remix)
3 Eddie Harris Bold And Black (DJ Nu-Mark Remix)
4 United 8 Getting Uptown (To Get Down) (Quantic Remix)
5 Average White Band Pick Up Te Pieces (Charlie Dark Remix)
6 Sister Sledge We Are Family (Daz-I-Kue Remix)
7 Donny Hathaway Little Gheto Boy (Freddy L Remix)
8 Chic A Warm Summer Night (King Britt Remix)
9 Spinners I'll Be Around (Kev Brown Remix)
10 Carmen McRae Just A Little Lovin' (GB Remix)
11 Faze-O Riding High (The Army Of Love Remix)
12 Yusef Lateef Nubian Lady (Metisse Remix)

or anything about SunGodSuns? it's total project blowed dudes (2mex, omid [who i went to highschool w/], and dj nobody. but has production by sa-ra

http://www.discogs.com/SonGodSuns-Everyday/release/766140

Oh shit, new blood! I'm thinking garth trinidad is a man to watch, considering I liked his Fader mix.

Matt, I need to pick up your suggestions asap. Booting slsk won't happen for a bit though.

Thanks for keeping this alive! Will report back.

garth is a dj for la public radio station KCRW and does a show called chocolate city

http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/cc

hold the fuck up

(btw jaxon, et al, thank you for your contributions!)

this PPP album is a lot better than i thought it would be. prefer the stuff that isnt so locked into the dilla-ish drum programming but its interesting. the first single they leaked had me worried they were trying to do the 60s soul pastiche thing.

Yeah, I like how they use retro-soul more as a starting point than as an end unto itself.

Oh man, this thread is so great and appreciated. It is totally hooking me up with stuff I was looking for when I started this thread: Contemporary mellow jazzy soul...

I sort of want to listen exclusively to this kind of stuff from now until perpetuity.

so i got back in contact w/ Kaleem that i mentioned just upthread and he mentioned some new names

http://www.myspace.com/opswamp81 (really feeling this)

http://www.myspace.com/afta1

http://www.myspace.com/samiyambeats

the last 2 are primarily instrumental. samiyam even does a weird (not necessarily good) remix of soldier boy's "crank that"

Moodymann Live:

I discovered a podcast on slsk of garth trinidad and muhsinah

in the process of getting now

musinah seems a lot like GAM to me. not sure if i like her. screechy singing all over the place and not very songful.

anyone like frank mccomb? hes very neo soul but not in the posery/too cool way, very donny hathaway influenced, to the point where its almost like glenn lewis and stevie wonder. still like him though, but i wish he had some better lyrics on some of his songs. theyre as inane as a lot of modern R&B, just less noticeably so cos the music and singing are so 'deep'.

so very late on this particular bandwagon but my brothe just sent me Tide's Arising by Mark de Clive-Lowe and "Slide" is like the perfect mix of Prince and house music, woot

I'm sure it's mentioned up there somewhere, but the PPP album is up on emusic now

i listened to Flying Lotus' "Los Angeles" and honestly, it was kinda really boring. no songs, no basslines, no samples, just beats and weird noises. kinda lost me. his bbc essential mix is still pretty rad though.

the j*davey album is great

The Flying Lotus album didn't make a huge impression on me, either. I haven't gone back to it. Maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't.

musinah seems a lot like GAM to me. not sure if i like her. screechy singing all over the place and not very songful.

Your capacity for constant rongness astounds me.

I discovered a podcast on slsk of garth trinidad and muhsinah

Woops, meant Garth podcast of Georgia Anne. On 1st listen, it's decent, with some exclusives. Will listen again soon.

musinah seems a lot like GAM to me. not sure if i like her. screechy singing all over the place and not very songful.

haha on the GAM comparison, considering my mixup above. Although I don't get the "screechy" accusation on Muhsinah. Screechy is how I define much of the R&B out there, as Tombe Lockhart says in the interview posted above.

so very late on this particular bandwagon but my brothe just sent me Tide's Arising by Mark de Clive-Lowe and "Slide" is like the perfect mix of Prince and house music, woot

Gotta admit...it was that album that opened the door for me to revisit the Broken Beat meets Neo-Soul thing, which surely led me to this, but I don't think they're exactly the same. I got into Mark and Ticklah thanks to DJ Spinna colabs.

i listened to Flying Lotus' "Los Angeles" and honestly, it was kinda really boring. no songs, no basslines, no samples, just beats and weird noises

I consider Flying Lotus, 00Genesis, Jackhigh, et al to be a sub-genre. Not R&B, although, occasionally in an R&B mode.

xp

I mean, I'm not saying you are rong about Muhsinah and GAM being similar, just the rest. ; )

tbh i only heard her once a few months back and i prob should reinvestigate just to make sure i was right or not but i dont know if i want to repeat that experience.

I love both their voices, especially Muhsinah's.

weird. the tracks on her myspace arent like the ones that were there last year at all. these are nicer. not very GAM at all.