the most important election of your lifetime: 2012 american general election thread

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is it the "I should be president" thing?

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

not really, but that's an offshoot of his "free market i am a business man and basically a little god" mentality.

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also the victimization issue that people were talking about on the other thread. McCain didn't embody this as much. This campaign seems like it will be more paranoid.

timellison, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

romney def believes in the power of business consulting but he's actually kinda bad at being cocky

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome, i can be first to say

Good Luck, USA

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

"I am the only person who sees clearly that America's hair is on fire! That is why I feel such urgency to be your president."

Aimless, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

"we're sorry senator, you're not allowed to abort your candidacy -- you'll need to carry it to full term"

Silky Slim (dan m), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

(xpost) Gingrich may have started the 1860 phrase and Santorum picked up on it, I dunno.

And so now we have Newt Gingrich insisting that 2012 "is the most important election since 1860." And some in the punditocracy go even further; according to columnist E. J. Dionne, "Everyone agrees that the 2012 election will be a turning point involving one of the most momentous choices in American history."

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php?option=com_flexicontent&view=items&id=33338:the-greatest-post-in-all-our-lifetimes

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/the-27-point-gender-gap-that-could-decide-the-election/2012/04/10/gIQAlm5E8S_blog.html?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

A wide gender gap underlies the current state of the race. Romney is up eight percentage points among male voters but trails by 19 among women.

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

2008 gap wuz 13 points

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

This year has made it pretty clear that the republican party views women as second class citizens, I'm surprised it is not more than 19 points.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

the Democratic Party only views non-millionaire women as second-class citizens

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ashley Judd 4 Prez imo

stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/04/cain-women-gender-gap-romney-obama.html

men vs. other people

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, hell _is_ other people, ya know, as the many other people in Cain's life have no doubt proven to him thru litigation of harmless actions and jokes

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Romney behind the scenes at Fox

boxall, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw I think the number of ppl susceptible to "the most important election of your lifetime" has decreased a tad this cycle, haven't seen it anywhere. Maybe just reserved for use by cable idiots now.

― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:44 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a putative historian on the internet-talk-show annex of NRO, the hoover institution presents uncommon knowledge with peter robinson, pulled this one a few months ago, cuz this election is america's great choice between Administration & Liberty. i am leaning liberty but idk what if i got sick.

their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, the election of 1864 was p. important too

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

campaign's not over until someone cries holding a doll iirc

supreme sundae (reddening), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 06:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

doll is in the hospital iirc

♆ (gr8080), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 07:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

what's going on over there on the right

j., Wednesday, 11 April 2012 11:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Five Republicans have filed the necessary papers and $500 fee to qualify for the June 26 Utah presidential primary election, but with Rick Santorum dropping out of the race Tuesday, only four will be on the ballot.

Or possibly three.

Newt Gingrich’s check bounced.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

well he does have a decent chance of winning your state

latest Elon poll on our anti-gay marriage prop shows 61% opposed - if we don't pass the bill California did I will mail the crow directly to you

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Elon poll doesn't screen out non-voters though - the most recent PPP poll that is a voter poll is a bit more pessimistic:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/03/north-carolinians-support-but-dont-understand-marriage-amendment.html

(though there's still room for a little optimism there if the anti-Amendment One can get the message across before May, and the end of the contested GOP primary season will also help, perhaps)

carson dial, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah full gay marriage is nowhere close to being legalized in any southern state, but looking at those results 40% of 18-29 y/os in north carolina are for it + 16% for civil unions, which highlights the 'we just gotta wait for old people to die' solution

iatee, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

alternatively we could take away peoples votes after age 50 maybe

iatee, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's to hoping. Meanwhile, in this story:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/magazine/republicans-who-supported-gay-marriage.html?_r=1&hp

Some (sad) roffles:

I’ve had a few conversations with Long, trying to understand what harm they think they are defending marriage from. In one conversation I recounted my own classic wedding at the Holy Name of Jesus church, and wondered how somebody else’s less conventional marriage could diminish the joy of it.

“Well, I don’t think it hurts anybody,” Long replied, “but I think a society has to have certain standards, and since the beginning of time, marriage has been between a man and a woman.” Marriage, he elaborated, is about children. “You’re not going to procreate children with same-sex couples.”

I told him that would be news to my daughters’ school classmates, the ones with two moms or two dads. And by the way, we don’t prohibit elderly, infertile or just plain procreation-averse couples from marrying.

“I know plenty of gay couples, O.K.?” he snapped back.

Pobrecito.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

good morning!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

gawker's "fox mole" has been found and fired w/in 24 hours damn

goole, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shit, that was quick. I'm disappointed.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

uh surely that was expected

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

perhaps even desired

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

ie, you're more likely to get a job somewhere else for being FIRED FROM FOX rather than just being an employee of Fox

Jilly Boel (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just about to post that link. Yeah, as of 13:54 Eastern, dude's still at their desk.

Choad of Choad Hall (kingfish), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

;-)

max, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

MAX IS THE MOLE

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

He joined Fox News years ago on a suicide mission...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's a long suicide

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I suspected when he voted for all those Randite trojan horses in the action-film poll

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

alternatively we could take away peoples votes after age 50 maybe

lol I would support this

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

full disclosure, I'd be unable to vote under that rule pretty fucking soon here but if I gotta take one for the team, well, shit, the team looks good to me

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

If that happened, we old people would take to the streets and engage in a vicious campaign of pie-flinging and gurning until our civil rights were restored.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw aero I webmailed you about something, dunno if you check that email

iatee, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

you'd still get a senior's discount at Shoney's iirc

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

We'd jape at every infant in a pram until it cried in terror.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Allan West says some things.

The conservative tea party icon also got in shots at Democrats and President Obama, who spoke Tuesday at Florida Atlantic University. West said Obama was "scared" to have a discussion with him. He later said "he's heard" up to 80 U.S. House Democrats are Communist Party members, but wouldn't name names.

At the first of two campaign town-hall events in Martin County on Tuesday, the Plantation Republican told a New Hope Fellowship Church crowd it'd be disingenuous to pretend he knows everything about the area, but said he supports local projects like inlet dredging. But he contended that big national issues, such as gas prices, turn out to be the most important locally.

"I understand everything about the (St. Lucie) Inlet. I already represent 70 to 75 miles of coastline. Plenty of inlets, plenty of ports. I got it," West said. "I understand about the (St. Lucie) river situation. I understand about (Lake) Okeechobee. But it won't mean a hill of beans if the United States of America goes from $15.6 trillion in debt to $26 trillion in debt."

Translation: "I don't know shit about your district but I can't wait to be your FOX News commentator."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Plantation Republican"

can I just

i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Current headline at latimes.com:

"Romney says he and Santorum will come together"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

try to assuage an audience that's primed to call him part of the liberal media elite.

good fuckin luck with that! he's Mr. Journolist.

goole, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

painstakingly went through the entire speech himself in an attempt to add at least a few more sorta truthy things to it.

I agree with this. Like the grocery list he cites from the Palin speech.

timellison, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

elsewhere David Frum wonders why it can't be 1996 and Ryan can't be Kemp.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is for morbz

scott seward, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Had no idea Frum had this novel called Patriots out: "America's first black president has just lost re-election. A new leader tries to pull the country out of a terrible recession--only to face a devilish plot from inside his own party."

Isn't there a clip of Nixon playing alongside Duke Ellington at the White House?

clemenza, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Close, not quite:

clemenza, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reality disconnect #589: "WE BUILT IT! WE BUILT IT! WE BUILT IT! We create the jobs and we drive the economy! Oh yeah, except everything wrong is the President's fault. Cos he's in control of the economy."

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Who are the mystery speakers? 'Cause I wanna know. No mention of Hologram Nixon.

clemenza, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Clint will be one, surely.

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's totally gonna be eastwood

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

"it's the end of the game in America, and we lost. let's invent a new sport we'll be good at."

Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh also also have we taken the time to lol @ the genius campaign slogan "We Can Change It"

chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

there are nearly six thousand posts in the thread and it's high season for politics, you hae to load the whole thread to see what you missed if you leave the house for a couple of hours. it is time for a new thread. I don't know what symmetry requires, if anything, but it's time.

we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Symmetry demands it.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

dude, bookmark it, its all the rage. i actually did that for the first time for this thread!

scott seward, Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I use bookmarks Scott but it really is time. Bookmarks do not mean the end of starting new threads when one thread is ridiculously long

we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

done!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

mods, please...?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 August 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink


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