I am so not "getting" this Instagram thing / do you guys want to look at each others pictures?

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that to me seems to explain 90% of it

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah. i mean i should be clear that $1 billion is ridiculous no matter which way you slice it unless instagram is just like an office filled with $2 billion and the 11 employees are all security guards or something

max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk, that might be the lowest amount of money that facebook considers pulling out their pocketbook for

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's a good point, maybe zuckerberg just forgot all digits smaller than a billion

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

biking in to work today i really wished i had gotten a job in palo alto instead of going to grad school

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

in other words i am so not 'getting' this instagram thing

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's ok, I witnessed my high school friend who founded p1nterest getting grief from his family for not being a doctor a few months ago

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol @ "fbml". worst company

am0n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

fbml wasn't a horrible idea but kind of betrays the fact they're still in a php or even coldfusion mentality

like seriously, guys, they created a php compiler and optimizer and shit, I think they're mentally ill

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, sorry, it's a converter that changes php to c++ and it's called "hiphop"

shoot me

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

how well did you know mr.p1nt3r3st mh?

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

We both did science fair, went to the same magnet school for AP classes and the like, had a computer science class together. Sadly I knew only a bit about said website when he was in town and he was like "man, I don't know anyone else here and don't want to talk to the other speakers all day, let's chill over lunch"

so, not that well, but enough to shoot the shit I guess

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not even sure I believe this 100% but a lazy thought is that Facebook's brand has never been about cutting-edge technology, at least compared to Google...it was initially about game-changing usability and now it's really just about the fact that everyone you know is there. Most of their attempts to expand the feature set have met opposition or apathy. I know they do have some really clever people working for them and obv they have to juggle massive amounts of real-time data but idk I feel the tech aspects are probably not beyond the reach of a potential competitor.

You always tell me: "Perhacs Perhacs Perhacs" (seandalai), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

that will probably always be the case with social networks tho

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

like facebook's goal is gonna be to institutionalize itself as much as possible but in the longer term it's still gonna be easier for 100m people to switch to new networks

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

the underlying technology has nothing to do w/this at all, fackbook has tons of dudes and tons of money they can code the shit out of whatever they want, of course there will always haxors sniping at their php or w/e online, they are im sure crying themselves to sleep on pillows stuffed w/million dollar bills

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

feel like 'facebook is about photos' or 'what people use facebook for is essentially photos' is wrong

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, sorry, it's a converter that changes php to c++ and it's called "hiphop"

shoot me

hahaha, FB is the new AOL!

I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

otoh i just looked at path (which i had never heard of) (lol old) and closed the website in rage because my options were 'watch the demo' and 'watch the trailer', so maybe i just don't understand that everyone in my generation is illiterate

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

its a simplification but it has been repeatedly proved that the thing people use facebook for the most is photos

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

if i go on facebook and send one important message and click through a gallery of 100 photos because i am bored i do not think that means i am getting 100x as much use out of photos

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

its a simplification but it has been repeatedly proved that the thing people use facebook for the most is photos

― lag∞n, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:35 AM

its even implied in the name "facebook"

am0n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are lots of other ways to send one important message

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 weird tip

am0n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

and that totally doesnt describe most Facebook usage, I cant recall the last time I went on there to do something important, it's all abt dicking around

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

my dicking around is of vital importance tbf

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the main way to make inroads on facebook is via the young (probably college age and younger) who will want something where NOT everyone is on it. Was it not initially the air of exclusivity that helped to launch facebook as a brand? Of course now it's morphed into something totally different, and it is institutionalized, in fact it's almost become a kind of utility -- a combination universal phone book, universal yearbook, universal greeting card conduit, e-mail system, chat system, photo album, etc. You don't do it because it's cool anymore, you do it because it's useful. But some college kid will come up with something that's appealing to young people and revolting or bewildering or just unavailable to older people and that will gradually eat into fb, eventually. It probably won't be just an edgier fb, it will be something paradigmatically different.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

well myspace actually had younger users, fb had elitism

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

they pretty much opened up the site college by college going by the us news rankings

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

if i go on facebook and send one important message and click through a gallery of 100 photos because i am bored i do not think that means i am getting 100x as much use out of photos

― thomp, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, YOU arent, but facebook is

max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is already happening, thus purchasing instagram, theyd buy twitter in a second if they could too xp hurting

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol google+

am0n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I use facebook so I know it's not cool

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

if i go on facebook and send one important message and click through a gallery of 100 photos because i am bored i do not think that means i am getting 100x as much use out of photos

― thomp, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well, YOU arent, but facebook is

― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:43 (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ads refresh three times when i write that message and not at all when i click through the photos iirc

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

k so theyre getting 30x as much use out of photos

max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

ime 'important messages' are increasingly taking the form of fb photos, i.e. sonograms

i have plenty of feelings about this phenomenon (not good) but that's neither here nor there

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

nah, they're getting 30^0.3x as much use - xp

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

pwned by math

max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

thomp your individual experience on fb is probably not something you should consider representative of a half billion people

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know, possibly it's because fb came in when i was an undergrad, and since then i have spend three years dicking around then gone back to school (sigh) -- it seems like everyone i have known in my 20s has been more contactable via facebook than via any other internet medium, and uses that for making most of the arrangements about their social lives. probably these people would stop if facebook suddenly turned into timbernersleebook overnight but i still don't think it is true that graphical dingdongs are a large part of the appeal

ha, xpost

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

well myspace actually had younger users, fb had elitism

― iatee, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:42 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

myspace was also very susceptible to spam and general ugliness. myspace pages became kind of miserable. and they got bought by a company that proabably had the least idea of anyone what to do with it.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah IME people actually do use facebook for a lot of important shit. For example, it's become the central repository of photographs of my baby for three generations of family spread across the globe.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

also (mainly bcz i don't have any friends) my 'individual facebook experience' is more like:

- open facebook
- click on qrank
- refresh until qrank actually works
- play qrank
- close facebook
- hate myself

thomp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

srsly my Israeli grandfather-in-law gets on fb and posts shit like "thek you for sending the puctures to us"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

- open facebook
- is anyone else in my life actually doing something more interesting than me
- comment on that thing
- post a picture of my cat

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't understand what FB has gotten wrong with pictures and mobile picture uploads? It's easy to upload from my phone when I want to, and I'm constantly seeing other peoples' pictures (until I unsubscribe from Photos of Y)

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

edward III, do you use fb mobile through the app or via their web interface on the phone?

― akm, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:09 AM (1 hour ago)

thru the app... I know you can go into desktop mode on the browser vers to share but it's such a basic function idk why the app can't do it (attn hackers, prolly an attack surface)

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I don't know how it is from other phones but on an iPhone it's very easy to take a photo and send it straight to facebook as it is if you have the app.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

The thing is, every camera app on iOS that lets you post images to facebook does it better than facebook itself.

mh, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

the Facebook app is truly terrible for posting photos

lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink


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