NRO's The Corner 2: Ghost Protocol

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the answer is always to be more racist

and btw disability is just lack of motivation

bnw, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

Mr. McCarthy is saddened by Mr. Steyn and wishes to clarify things:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295608/no-mark-andrew-c-mccarthy

This, of course, is followed by Maggie Gallagher on What is Bad:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295612/drawing-moral-lines-against-racism-maggie-gallagher

Ned Raggett, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

Haha "literal child of the sixties" actually used as a unique qualifying trait.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

"(I was born in 1960)"

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

In the second clause you see the authoritarian spirit at work:

And if MSNBC suddenly came to its senses and fired Sharpton, or if the Justice Department — instead of pandering to Obama’s base about “civil rights” violations — opened up an investigation of the Trayvon Martin race-mongers for the federal offense of soliciting violent crimes, I wouldn’t hand-wring over the specter of tightened constraints on the marketplace of ideas. I would applaud.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

Derb was a "heretic." He had to be burned.

I suspect there is some small, but measurable, difference between being let go from a website and being burned at a stake -- but what on earth could it be?

Mr. Peabody (Aimless), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

But I almost always learned something from his columns, and, at a time when punditry is increasingly parochial, I appreciated his range of historical and literary allusion (his recent "Duke of Marlborough moment," for example).

mookieproof, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

that daily caller thing, damn.

- my bike was stolen in a majority-black neighborhood
- "my liberal friend" told me to pray for the thief
- racism against blacks is a fraud
- (my favorite movie was 'in the heat of the night' so i know about race)

mookieproof, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

When I got home I vented to my friends. I told them I was going to scour those neighborhoods until I found the bike. In reply, a liberal friend gave me a lecture about profiling and told me to just forget about the bike. “That person needs our prayers and help,” she said. “They haven’t had the advantages we have.”

i swear to god this 'liberal friend' pops up in every one of these fuckin articles. i refuse to believe the ppl who write these things have liberal friends.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Q: Hey, you're right, Vibe magazine used to be at 215 Lexington. Are there any black American rap artists you like? Personally I always thought NWA's "Straight Outta Compton" had a good outlook on authority. Also pro-gun.

A: My musical tastes don't venture far from opera.

http://gawker.com/5900452/

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

i am astounded and weirdly riveted by this fan-hitting and its various responses

also i am curious just how many ppl are aware of it or even know who john derbyshire is

mookieproof, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:20 (twelve years ago) link

Very few. How many people even know about the National Review?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link

Some other guy attempts some kind of Derb take:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295625/his-own-standard-jason-lee-steorts

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the nr is not important at all a a conservative institution, there are probably as many ilx types who read it for laffs as actual readers

iatee, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

In short, the statistical data regarding race and crime are very poor indicators. Think of a black man wearing a fine suit. Would you presume he were likelier to be a criminal than the white punk with his jeans halfway down his hindquarters? Of course not.

Likewise, if you see two people dressed as Crips, one white and one black, should you presume the white one is "safer"? No, you avoid them both unless it's Halloween.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

the fields medal one is a good one

the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

also "i never think about counterfactuals". hmm, bet you're a great mathematician then.

the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

i hope there are some naive NRO'ers that have been shocked by all the savages crawling out of the woodwork to defend derby. surely some of them actually believe that the racism charges against the right are just political ploys, and are now coming to realize that their entire movement is infested.

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but you have to wade through six inches of mud to find them

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

i'd imagine it's more like, okay that may have been a flagrant foul, but he's still playing for my team

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Nordlinger points out that the Derb was actually a lib:

I don’t have much patience with John’s critics on the left. Race is almost all-important to them. Not to me. It is one among other important things.

For example, John is strongly for abortion — certainly legal abortion. Does anyone care about that? That view, to me, is at least as offensive as Derb’s views on race. My nearest and dearest, life-long, have been pro-abortion.

Derb thinks that George W. Bush is a moron, and the Iraq War a crime. I doubt his views on these matters differ much from Michael Moore’s.

If not for his views on race — a big “if not,” granted — Derb might be quite welcome on the left. In any event . . .

a-lo, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 05:00 (twelve years ago) link

Nordlicker's sentences are such a pleasure to follow.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 09:50 (twelve years ago) link

The NRO would be easier if there weren't all these True Scotsman to worry about

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

The only NRO post on Derb that sounds written by a human being:

I’ve always thought that conservatives should simply bite the bullet and admit that there are racists among self-described conservatives, and moreover, that these conservatives’ racism is an evitable (that is, unwarranted) extension of the mainstream conservative position on race. But this is true in the same way it is true that there are communists among self-described liberals, and that their communism is an evitable (that is, unwarranted) extension of the mainstream liberal position on political economy. To put this even more forcefully, we have to yield that there is something to it when liberal trolls snark about how tough it can be to distinguish a conservative from a racist. The fact is that both conservatives and racists think that considerations about race should play a much smaller part in our political discourse. And while only racists think that this is so because blacks are less than fully human, it can be tough to get them to admit as much. Until, that is, they inevitably slip up.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

"evitable"

mark s, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 09:10 (twelve years ago) link

Has anyone told him that "evitable" means "avoidable" yet?

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:15 (twelve years ago) link

Inevitably.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:33 (twelve years ago) link

why didn't he just say 'unwarranted'

j., Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/people/shows/madonna/images/1.lucky.star.jpg

evitable.

s.clover, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

i think hes using "evitable" intentionally there!

max, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

he was just trying to be clever and set up his little frisson of delight at the end when he pulls out 'inevitably' like the explorer who pulls out his cigarette lighter to awe the stone age tribe. college-degreed hacks often write like that.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

next thing you'll know he'll use "rescreen" without irony

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

At the same time, there is something thuggish, not to mention insecure, in the mob’s expectation that a head be thrown to it without any discussion of the nature of the offense, and in its refusal to entertain any possibility of forgiveness.

This reflexive defensive posture after she just got done describing why his article is clearly racist.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

the mob

^the cartoon that plays in the conservative's head as he girds his loins for challops.

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

At the same time, there is something thuggish, not to mention ruggish, in the mob’s expectation that a bone be thrown to it without any discussion of the funk of the jump that the thugstas feel, and in its refusal to entertain any possibility of lovin yo peoples cause we so real.

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

with Luda cameo

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

ahahaha

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

LOLwry fires another poster.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

haha Foster must be PSYCHED

God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

poor lowry, discovering all at once that he is hip-deep in racists and trying desperately to climb up to higher ground.

Aimless, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

the mob

^the cartoon that plays in the conservative's head as he girds his loins for challops.

― HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:53 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

God yes.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

the cornered

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295771/what-ho-derb-mark-steyn

okay I think at the end of this post Steyn is saying that racism is not very popular right now but will become popular again?

I DIED, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

"What ho? Derb?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

I had the same reaction. xpost

HE HATES THESE CANS (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think he might mean having rich foreigners employ you because they own everything

goole, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

the mob

^the cartoon that plays in the conservative's head as he girds his loins for challops.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bL8Ii6yUQBM/S-oMWPG-IJI/AAAAAAAAAYg/1acM6k5DupU/s1600/Da+Lench+Mob+-+Planet+Of+Da+Apes+1994.jpg

Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvony44TXq1r6tob1o1_500.gif

man down (D-40), Thursday, 12 April 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link


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