well it's missing a verb!
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
the hacked sign thing reads more like chan-style racism than klan-style racism tbh
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
not that one is BETTER exactly, but the former at least crushes my soul a little less
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
it's missing a verb
My gut tells me that "Trayvon" was intended as the verb.
― Mr. Peabody (Aimless), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
oh waooooow had not occurred to me, let's hope that don't catch on
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
Childish Gambino first out the gate to help with that one tbh
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe Donald Glover hacked that sign
― crüt, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe glassnote records signed hack Donald Glover
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
can someone who understands the law better than me explain what not taking this to a grand jury means in real world justice terms?
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Monday, April 9, 2012 1:53 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no murder charge
― the late great, Monday, April 9, 2012 1:59 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fwiw this is not necessarily true
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently Zimmerman is using a cool Kickstarter to help white devils stay steady killing black kids.
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
What a piece of shit
http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/09/us/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
I do not have the fortitude to look at his site. No way.
― 1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 9 April 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
If you go wandering around the neighborhood with a loaded gun, chasing unarmed teens carrying Skittles and shooting them dead, then you gotta expect it'll be "a life-altering event", mr. zimmerman. More than one life got "altered" in the process, as I recall the story.
― Mr. Peabody (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
sorry, i should've said no first degree murder (ie it'll be a manslaughter charge, right?)
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i may have it in me to listen to the guy at some point but not right now
― goole, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 9, 2012 6:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 9, 2012 6:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
imo this is backwards btw
obviously it was a liberal hacker trying to paint god-fearing midwestern conservatives as racist
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
alinsky amirite
is fuckin' gambino actually referring to the act of killing someone as "trayvon"
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:04 (twelve years ago) link
no
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
okay, thank you for telling me that
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
unless he said something else -- gambino's trayvon line was "i'd die for my hood / trayvon" or something like that
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
still repugnant but not quite as repugnant as i feared
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
it's facepalmy but not necessarily repugnant i don't think
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
it's repugnant because the source was so predictable
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
repugnant is just a pretty strong word
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
well i would call all of his music repugnant, so
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol fair enough
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/05/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html
so zimmerman told his lawyers he said "punks" on the phone, not "coons". bullshit.
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 06:56 (twelve years ago) link
we don't really know what he said
― crüt, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
it really doesn't sound like punks
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago) link
We still don't know shit about much of this - or at least, we know very little definitively - but we know enough that first degree murder really shouldn't be off the table (assuming it isn't; we have no idea). Regardless of outcome, dude saw Trayvon, dude was armed, dude pursued Trayvon, dude shot Trayvon. A conviction is one thing, but even an average lawyer should be able to demonstrate intent in this instance.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 9, 2012 7:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 9, 2012 7:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
let me just say that when the slurs are directed towards you, they are equally as soul-crushing
also, when otherwise rational people say shit like this, it's enraging
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
not that one is BETTER exactly― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, April 9, 2012 7:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make tbh
― swaghand (dayo), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
when the slurs are directed towards you, they are equally as soul-crushing
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:20 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
Klan = grown adults with unfiltered, actual hate in their hearts for a group of human beings they feel is inferior. Chan = Bored bronies who want to say "shocking" things to troll the world.
I agree 100% with DJP that end result is equally terrible, but thinking too hard about the former makes me feel much sadder for the human condition. The former spawned Hitler and Idi Amin. The latter spawned Odd Future.
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
to draw the distinction at all requires that you be coming from a place of privilege i.e. that you're not going to be the person actually feeling the brunt of the attack
― same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
People can't have different motivations for saying things?
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link
who gives a fuck what someone's motivation for being hurtful dick is
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
so we can deal with the problem of racism in america?
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't matter at all what their motivation is if you're the person on the receiving end, which you aren't. you are reporting on how it seems to you from your place of white privilege, to be blunt about it. imo the best response to a person who can actually be on the receiving end of racism/marginalization explaining how this shit actually plays out IRL is to accept the explanation and modify your understanding of the phenomenon, not defend the parsing you have which comes from privilege.
I know that online the use of "privilege" is often an attacking stance; it's not, here, from me; I also know when one calls anybody "privileged" they tend to get defensive. but where whiteness is concerned, privilege applies across the board as I understand it
but more simply, it's like, of course Odd Future yelling "faggot" a lot doesn't bother you; they're not talking about you, you're not going to suffer as a result, so you parse it differently. you have that privilege. that's why dickheads like me get all lit up about Odd Future.
― same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:36 (twelve years ago) link
Why are you saying it doesn't bother me?
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
Why are you thinking that the sign doesnt bother me? I wrote it like a half-dozen times that this is just as bad as if a klan dude did it
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
No, you didn't. Re-read what you wrote; you said "it's not exactly better but it isn't as soul-crushing". Which is bullshit.
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
you are drawing a false distinction to which you are attached. the distinction you're drawing is like saying it matters why somebody punched me. it doesn't matter a bit to my jaw.
― same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
it DOES matter why someone punched you, that's why we have hate crime laws
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think theres nearly this much of a difference tbh
― max, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
if someone punched you because they hate your race or sexual orientation, YES I DO think that is worse than if someone punched you because they thought it would be funny to punch someone.
― easter back, somebody call the binks truck (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:43 (twelve years ago) link
Whiney...I think your heart's in the right place, but that perspective is just so massively wrongheaded. The 4chan fucks might not be committing overt hate crimes per se, but they're perpetuating the mindset that allows people who do commit hate crimes to feel that they have implicit support from outside of their own community. Anyone who perpetuates that mindset, whatever their motive or level of ironic remove, is a subhuman piece of shit IMHO.
― 1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:44 (twelve years ago) link