I am so not "getting" this Instagram thing / do you guys want to look at each others pictures?

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A friend of mine who works in tech told me the thing about facebook increasingly being seen as "for old people" by the young and I kind of didn't believe it, but now I can totally see it becoming the AOL of tomorrow.

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:05 PM (2 minutes ago)

if somebody develops a useful alternative they could capitalize on this disaffection but there aren't any real competitors atm. I have some late teens/early 20s friends on FB from the local music scene, one posted that he was going back to myspace and everybody kind of laughed at him.

google couldn't pull off a viable vehicle and they were already in the catbird seat. if it does happen it will prolly come out of left field.

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

the buying of instagram was a great boon for graphic designers who work at tech news sites

swaghand (dayo), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

one thing that's interesting about this is that, well, can the social giants always and forever just eat their competition? millions of people can start using something new very, very quickly...it in some ways justifies the draw something / instagram prices but you can't do that indefinitely when it's so easy to compete.

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

if somebody develops a useful alternative they could capitalize on this disaffection but there aren't any real competitors atm.

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:18 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see but the thing is the next facebook isnt a facebook clone, it doesnt need to be an alternative, it just needs to be the next thing people will dick around with every day, which is why instagram was more dangerous to fb than google+

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

implicit in "useful alternative" is something that has legs, it obv doesn't have to (and prolly won't) be an fb clone (tho fb was not substantially diff than friendster or myspace)

stuff like instagram is a challenge to fb in terms of stealing a user's time from fb, but as a challenge to their hegemony, no

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

FB = nu-AOL is very apt metaphor imho

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

"f*** facebook goodbye" looks like a shop

the late great, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

stuff like instagram is a challenge to fb in terms of stealing a user's time from fb, but as a challenge to their hegemony, no

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:30 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if users dont spend time on facebook what hegemony do they have exactly

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, it's like how much time ppl spend at the macaroni grill not connected to the mall vs in the mall itself, it's still most likely a 80/20 split, and macaroni grill is never going to BE the mall

also hipstamatic 4 lyfe, stupid name or no

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/white_mountains.jpg

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

and according to my palm pilot anybody can be nu-AOL

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

How many 'fuck facebook!' posts are going to be posted on facebook today?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

what were your guys' fav aol dailup noises

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, it's like how much time ppl spend at the macaroni grill not connected to the mall vs in the mall itself, it's still most likely a 80/20 split, and macaroni grill is never going to BE the mall

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:45 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if instagram steals facebooks photos and twitter steals their status updates and foursquare takes location and blah blah etc soon theres nothing people use facebook for anymore and the mall sits defunct and forlorn

its ironic that fb has spent all this energy trying to be everything to everyone when people seem more n more happy to use diff services for each thing, sometimes they route that stuff through fb but increasingly not so much

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

malls are also dying btw

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

because of the internet... lol

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

that internet will never kill the macaroni grill

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

^^lyrics to my new song

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

brb writing a macaroni app

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

when i make a billion off my dating site tenderoni grill i don't wanna any of y'all coming to me for handouts

ghostface protocollah (some dude), Monday, 9 April 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

FB = nu-AOL is very apt metaphor imho

― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, April 9, 2012 3:37 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this is one of those interesting internet class/education things, as more people start using FB you have more people -- usually older, poorer, ppl with fewer years of schooling -- using it "wrong" (this is kind of bill hitchert's thing), which means the tech bros and the youngs will go somewhere else for the social stuff. instagram is probably a good bet for a place theyd jump, which is one reason facebook bought it, and one reason people are freaking out about it

max, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

path is totally better than instagram via my personal experience of using neither of them

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

i mean compare w/ last week when instagram introduced the android version of the app and tons of instagram users freaked out b/c all the poors would start posting photos

max, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

i tried path, i really did, but fuck that

max, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

based mostly on the fact that instgram has those stupid filters and uses the words quirky to describe themselves

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

prepare yrself now for the backlash against quirk

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

im launching a new backlash sharing app called quirk

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

well this goes back to what I said above - if fb really feels threatened enough to drop a billion on these dudes, is its hold on social networking really as strong as people think?

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

idea for iphone app:
Redophane -- makes it so that when you look at stuff through your iphone camera, it looks like you're looking through a red piece of cellophane.

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

ive pivoted and now quirky is an augmented reality app where you look through yr iphone and everything in the world is worthy of backlash

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

high dynamic range will be the new trend in social media photos and everything is gonna look super awesome and gross, get ready

http://static.blinqphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/hdr-truck.jpg

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://oldpeoplefacebook.tumblr.com

lag∞n, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

xp why does that picture look like something that would have been airbrushed on the side of a panel van sometime in the late 70's?

they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

A: "Whatcha sprayin' on yer van, buddy?"
B: "The van I'm gonna be drivin' in thirty years time!"

they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

if fb really feels threatened enough to drop a billion on these dudes, is its hold on social networking really as strong as people think?

it may be less a matter of "feeling threatened" and more one of seeing opportunities, preferring co-option to combat, etc.

LDR versions of HDR photos always look super weird

or low-rez, i guess i should say

seeing opportunities...in filters...on pictures

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

one billion dollars worth of opportunities

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Seeing opportunities in grabbing all the personal details of all the people who apply filters to their pictures.

they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

But as Lincoln said, you can't have all of the personal details of all of the people all of the time, because, erm... they stop using your website and then shoot you in a theatre. Or something...

they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

and they way they share them, and follow them, and the idea that this might be worked into FB. makes good sense to me, especially if it's as popular as they say.

xxxp I saw LDR and thought "Lana Del Ray? Huh?"

Frank Youngenstein (Phil D.), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

really though I'm not really prepared to think anything until I get the take of a markers on this

swaghand (dayo), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

if instagram steals facebooks photos and twitter steals their status updates and foursquare takes location and blah blah etc soon theres nothing people use facebook for anymore and the mall sits defunct and forlorn

its ironic that fb has spent all this energy trying to be everything to everyone when people seem more n more happy to use diff services for each thing, sometimes they route that stuff through fb but increasingly not so much

― lag∞n, Monday, April 9, 2012 3:53 PM (26 minutes ago)

*certain* ppl are happy to use diff services for each thing - but fb still trounces everybody else in terms of users and visitors, and if they're able to successfully absorb serious competitors they can guard their flanks. the trouble will come by A) distinguishing serious competitors from the thousands of flash in the pan timewasters like formspring, B) competitors that have something which can't be easily absorbed into facebook's hive of villainy, or C) competitors that flat our refuse to be acquired because they think they can take the crown. frankly C is prolly the most dangerous type of threat to fb, tho A could collapse them under their own rome-like weight.

c/r the last time I checked in on twitter fwiw

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

facebook both seems like the best guess for 'tech company that won't exist in 20 years' and 'only tech company that will exist in 20 years'

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

(w/r/t the amazon/google/fb/microsoft/apple 'giants')

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

groupon will not exist in 2 years

iatee, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

brb starting poopon, social network for scat enthusiasts

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

I think I posted about my plan to start grouporn.com in the "terrible ideas" thread

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

it would basically be social coupons for porn, which is why it's a terrible idea

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link


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