― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway, film much less important to me than music, but if i want to get a sense of what's good, i'll mostly look to rosenbaum for the gut-check, with the understanding that his sensibility isn't precisely the same. i'll go to arguably closer-in-sensibility ebert for a clearer sense of what the experience of the movie is like, and what it is 'about', with the belief that there are certain kinds of films he just doesn't get.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
i wonder if there's an alternate reality movie-oriented ilx out there somewhere where all the music discussions suck
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
You could probably strike "film" from that sentence and still be OTM.
― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link
New Times hates intelligent crit. And paying writers.
― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― phil d. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
That's pretty vague and maybe not very useful until it's qualified more specifically (which I'm not up to at the moment and might have a hard time articulating). It's also a pretty complicated issue and has a lot to do with the the equally complicated issues of watching films on DVD or video and speaking about them as film.
― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
This is such an ancient claim.
― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Gear totally OTM there.
― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― phil d. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― In The Court Of The Redd King Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
That said, Hawks is a major blind spot for me. Of the handful I've seen, only Gentlemen Prefer Blondes does anything for me.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 13 April 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Either of them could crank out hour-long vignettes that don't really go anywhere but pack a punch all the same. This would neither confirm nor dispute the point of the thread.
― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― shieldforyoureyes, Thursday, 13 April 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, produced by Jim Henson (New Line) [four monocles] Walter Monheit says: “Terrapinrific! A snapping good yarn! Dontello is the thinking man’s Stallone!"
― timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 13 April 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), April 12th, 2006.
it's YOU who's on the kool-aid, man. fuck a t m-l.
Matthew Zoller Seitz: "TV has not produced an Antonioni or Wong Kar-Wai, but there are little Howard Hawkses running around all over the place."
this is really quite amusing because WONG KAR WAI STARTED OUT IN TV, MAKING SOAPS, MKAY?
― enrique, hahahaha you idiot morbius, Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― enrique, pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― In The Court Of The Redd King Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Walter Monheit. (He would have had something good to say about Like Mike, geeta!)
-- rosemary (rosemarygilber...), September 4th, 2002. (rosemary)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Eric, you really found Enrique smart at some point?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link
morbius, what's good about tsai m-l? it would be ok if you explained why you like these overhyped auteurs, but you never do, it's just assumed that because adrian martin or whoever reps for them they must be great. so, 20 words on why he's worth it, plz.
― enrique, smart guy, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't ever remember saying that, nor rescinding it. Is he a film critic?
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― enrique, academic, admin dude, film critic, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
passantino, trife, blount, buttez -- the place is chocka with characters. and i hardly know who jaymc is.
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― enrique's pseudonym, Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Eric, if Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is yr best Hawks so far, maybe Monkey Business. I prefer the wry testosterone fests myself (tho Angie Dickinson is the yeast of Rio Bravo).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Zwan, if you read through to Cheshire's 1999 piece, he dates it all the way back to Jaws in 1975, but even then I think he's late by a decade or more.
This is also OTM re: lateness, though I still am unconvinced even by Cheshire that quite a lot of the "tv values" didn't exist in movies all along (not just mostly forgotten or hope-to-forget stuff, either).
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, I didn't really like Twentieth Century or Monkey Business much. (Only Angels is yet to be viewed and I have high hopes.) I accept the Hawks situation as my loss, as of yet.
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link