Kate Bush: "Never For Ever" C/D?

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Well, shit no harm in that! It only means you have so much more music ahead of you to discover.

Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 September 2006 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Ramzi: Well, Kate Bush is a pretty great place to start your musical awakening. Follow those bread crumbs -- so much more good music awaits you. (Even American music, at that.)

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Sunday, 24 September 2006 00:51 (seventeen years ago) link

true nuff, dare! i wish i could work with the trio bulgarka...

i'm trying to put together a beat tonight and it's not working out yet. i think i'm gonna listen to the song i just finished writing instead. but first, a hit of aerial - maybe a little how to be invisible?...

i know, all so random. saturday night in my head. i used to go out more, i really did, but i find the keyboard infinitely more suggestive an activity in my free time. oh and i've been wanting to get back into my agatha christie... you guys should try listening to the dreaming while reading an agatha christie book. it's a head trip you'll never forget.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 24 September 2006 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha. That's cool as shit! I remember reading "The Mirror Crack'd" when I was a kid.

Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

well, this has been my musical upbringing, so to speak, in chron order:
The Breeders - & other Deal sisters projects (still honored as my first true loves)
Belly
Throwing Muses
Pink Floyd
Zep
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
The Doors
Tori Amos
Kate Bush (most recent, certainly most intense)

oh and a dash or two of Liz Phair along the way. And Madonna, of course. Yeah.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that was the first one i ever read! i just got a friend to read it. she's the kate bush of suspense, that broad.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

thx for the vote of faith myke - music is one of my best friends and i do have faith that it will not disappoint me long as i do follow these crumbs. it's just hard to sort them out in the wasteland of candied nothingness that is the American music market.

hehe, i know, i know, enough

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I still say the best use of an electric guitar on a Kate Bush song happened with James and the Cold Gun, preferably a live version, thanks.

Dare Of The Hog (Bimble...), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

what a terrific song that is. it's so bye bye miss american pie for me for some weird reason don't ask me why i can't explain.

joanni is really getting on my good side. hmm. coral room, uh oh...

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 24 September 2006 01:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I love how if you put "Night Scented Stock" over the intro of "Blow out for bill" it creates those interesting harmonies (forgive me if this is common knowledge, but it's a cool call on Kate's part).

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

*Blow away (for bill) that is.

ross m (Snorb), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

excuse me? are you serious? that's ridiculous...

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 24 September 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

that's so weird now that i think about it night scented stock's harmonies totally coincide with blow away (for bill) - i have to try this soon.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i know i love when she opens that door in All We Ever Look For and there's some like chant session going on - i always imagine it like this woman is at some recording studio, walking the halls, opening different practice room doors

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 25 September 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ramzi, yeah I read about in awhile back. I would've never thought of putting them together myself before that.

ross m (Snorb), Monday, 25 September 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

i've been thinking about the actual question that started this thread - why does Never for Ever seem to be underrated? i think it's because it is so all over the board

is that an expression?

i mean, take songs like Delius, Blow Away, Violin and The Wedding List. the structure of the melodies and music of those songs is sooo freakin loopy - it's really hard to put your finger on it. even on the more "weird" and "experimental" The Dreaming, there are no melodies as erratic as Violin and The Wedding List. and the sheer compositional quality of Delius and Blow Away challenges even the most innovative arrangements on The Dreaming.


Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 25 September 2006 18:34 (seventeen years ago) link

thats really cool ross.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 25 September 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

kate bush likes:

pulsating instrumentation

and

intervals as melody

;P

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't Never for Ever Kate Bush's 1st (and only?) #1 charting album?

could be totally wrong

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

not only.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i love how Delius and Blow Away sound like you're in some kind of tropical rainforest... she likes to throw those in every now and then, right? Morning Fog, An Architect's Dream - that song on The Kick Inside near the end?...

it's cute

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 2 October 2006 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

blow away

blow away

blow away

blow away

::WAIL::

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Posting here just to reclaim this thread after seven (!) posts in a row by Ramzi. :)

Btw. Ramzi, is there any other music you like, besides Kate Bush? Being so heavily into Kate Bush, I guess you might enjoy Peter Gabriel, Joni Mitchell or Tori Amos... :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 6 October 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

haha thanks geir, i was getting lonely.

any other music? hehe, okay. i started with The Breeders as a preteen - obsessed (still love em). Then came Belly, Throwing Muses, Juliana Hatfield, Bjork (BJORK!). Then came the whole Pink Floyd, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Zep, The Doors thing. Then TORI TORI TORI. And sprinkle some Joni in.

Then, senior year of college (year and a half ago now?), Kate Bush. Biggest, baddest, most recent.

Never heard the Gabriel! I know, I should investigate right? Or Bowie?

so yeah. thanks for rearing your geiry head! ;P

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Saturday, 7 October 2006 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I feel your loneliness Ramzi. I'm fortunate enough to have a bunch of friends on another board that have allowed me to post ad infinitum on any musical topic I choose. They got sick of me ruining non-musical threads so they set up a forum just for me, it keeps me in line! Yeah I get lonely. But I'm free to post, and in the end, we do have that freedom, we're lucky. Post to your heart's content, I say. I spent about 3 hours posting last Monday night listening to a CD my friend made me of John Peel's Festive 50 radio program from 1983. God that was such a blast. To listen to it, and to post about it at the same time. Who would have thought I would be allowed such a pleasure back when the internet didn't exist?

Anyway, so I see you only discovered the Kate. That might explain your terrible obsession now, and I hope the likes of Geir gives you a break when they consider that this is all very new to you.

Never heard of Peter Gabriel? Ouch. If there was ever a perfect male accompaniment to Kate, it's him. They've done more than one duet together I assume you know? Try "Don't Give Up" on Gabriel's "So" album for starters, you'll recognize Kate's voice in there right away. They also did a duet of Roy Harper's "Another Day" but I don't know if that exists with anything other than HORRIBLE sound quality. I've got a video of them together on a TV program doing that, but again horrible quality. Anyway as far as Gabriel solo, I must stick my head in and recommend either his self-titled album with the melted face sleeve (he has a lot of albums titled Peter Gabriel, so watch out, they are known by the sleeves) which I believe also features Kate on backing vocals on a few tracks, and also I particularly like his live album from the early 80's entitled "Peter Gabriel Plays Live" which if you've read the entire Aerial thread you will have already bored of hearing me speak about! Haha.

Bless you Ramzi.

Bimble the Thimble (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 00:50 (seventeen years ago) link

aww bimble you're the best. i'm chilling with friends now so i had to read your post fast, but i'm going to reread it later. thank you for the vote of confidence - i really, really appreciate it.

will add more later (as i'm sure you fully expect) ;P

r

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Never heard the Gabriel! I know, I should investigate right?

You may start by checking out "Don't Give Up" and "Games Without Frontiers", considering Kate Bush sings on both. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link

i know but why do i have this idea that he's like

cornier

than her

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel like geir and bimble are my ilxor godparents.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Saturday, 7 October 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Do any of your friends like Kate? Just curious.

Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Saturday, 7 October 2006 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

well, it's funny, my boyfriend's friend is the one who got me into her, and his other friends had gotten into her a bit throughout the years. but then, i got into her and i got my friends into her - 3 or 4 friends. so that's impressive right?

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 8 October 2006 04:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha. Hell yeah! I remember when I was about...17 years old I found this guy who popped The Dreaming into the cassette player. I was amazed he knew who she was.

Bassment Jacks (Bimble...), Sunday, 8 October 2006 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link

i know! when i first started working at my current workplace, this guy hummed these TWO notes one morning and i was like

wait, what are you humming?

and he said, The Dreaming, like the song - i was so impressed! ;P

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

so i'm listening to the red shoes. every now and then i like to stick the red shoes in just cuz it's my least favorite and i play the others too much. i do the same thing with sensual, though i like that one better. and i need to start listening to lionheart more - not that i don't like it, it just seems kind of plain. i mean, for her.

anyway, i'm getting really into Constellation of the Heart.

it seems like this really fun song that could have been played in a video arcade in like 1989.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Monday, 9 October 2006 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Of course, Gabriel's best work was IMO before he started releaseing records under his own name, but his solo albums are still worth checking out too :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

some tart just posted

"ban ramzi awn"

on this thread i started today. i didn't even say a mean word to anyone. what's wrong with people? why do mean people exist? i was so excited too, cuz it was my first successful thread. got a lot of responses.

Ramzi Awn (rra123), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

oh my!!! poor me. on a music-related note, this album is still tops.

Surmounter, Monday, 27 August 2007 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

very Fall.

Surmounter, Monday, 27 August 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

very Fall.

Haha apparently -- I just put this on for the first time in like 15 years! (Then searched for thread.)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Holy shit it's only five albums ago*, but it just dawned on me that in a moment this thing is thirty years old!

*) Counting Aerial as "current". Lol bushtime. :)

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

thirty! aahhh!

surm, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i like this better than all her records except for the dreaming

sad to see geir more on the money on this than estie buttez, rip

velko, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

GREAT headphone/earbud album. Delius into Blow Away is masterful. Then hang around for the rest... This girl was channeling some real olde tyme witchy energy as a youth, I'm certain.

Bow Before Zeezrom!!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 16 April 2010 08:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Lovely thread. I feel I should put this on today, but I'm at one of kate's opposites on the musical wheel right now.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 16 April 2010 08:35 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

What is that weeping half-synth-half-guitar noise that's all over Egypt? It makes me sit up and take notice every time I hear it and I have never heard it on any other record ever.

Matt DC, Sunday, 6 April 2014 14:41 (ten years ago) link

i assumed it was some monophonic synth sound, but not sure exactly

clouds, Sunday, 6 April 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Minimoog according to Discogs. Also a Prophet-5 on it but pretty sure that's deployed in the coda.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 April 2014 19:08 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

This is totally classic. Don't forget to mix Blow Away for Bill with Night Scented Stock, because they do indeed sync perfectly.

Unchanging Window (Ross), Sunday, 9 July 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link

* sync the intro of blow away with Night sceneted stock as they produce harmonies that mesh

Unchanging Window (Ross), Sunday, 9 July 2017 06:34 (six years ago) link


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