Dirty Projectors

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yeah, i'd take overly composed music over another sloppy jam band anyday.

bell_labs, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't necessarily mean it's over-composed

Hurting 2, Friday, 5 October 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I know.

Really though, I think the "look at me!" with acts like this is more in the listener who's threatened by like the flamboyant content or something.

I mean wouldn't saying a rapper gave off the vibe "lok at me, I'm an eclectic self-expressive genius" usually be a compliment?

vadx, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i listened to some of this. i didn't even get the black flag thing at all. sometimes stuff like this seems like it was written with a press release first, just to bait rock writers, then do the album after it.

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 5 October 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

there's also the possibility that people WANT to make music that sounds different

not that this is the differentest band ever... but compared to a good deal of indie rock they are

vadx, Friday, 5 October 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i really like this band, but lately the lyrics really bug me. not even his weird singing voice, just the lyrics themselves. the rest of it is so meticulous and then that part is just kind of phoned in...

wait the black flag part of the lyrics ?

tramp steamer, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link

uhh what? not all of their songs are black flag covers...i haven't even listened to the one that is

bell_labs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:20 (sixteen years ago) link

err the one album that is. i was mostly talking about getty address and the glad fact.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

When I saw them live I kept thinking "Jesus, shut that guy up and let the girls sing." Then I got a promo of the album (whatever one was before the Black Flag thing) and kept thinking, "Oh, you precious fuck, shut the hell up and let the girls sing."

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and to answer the years-old question: No, the reason that no one wrote about this is not because it was too complicated. It was because if you like complicated music, this is disappointing and if you like poppy music, this is annoying. It hits the same dilettante weirdness level as Animal Collective.

I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm kind of afraid to listen to the black flag covers.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>i'm kind of afraid to listen to the black flag covers.</i>

You should be...it's awful stuff.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 01:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean wouldn't saying a rapper gave off the vibe "lok at me, I'm an eclectic self-expressive genius" usually be a compliment?

-- vadx, Friday, October 5, 2007 4:06 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

http://a50.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_0b1d00fb0cbac50784cbdde0b6718d59.jpg

NO

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

C'mon, ILM! No love for Rise Above? This is a kick-ass record.

call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I played Six Pack on my radio show about a month ago.
Really cool.

Trip Maker, Friday, 7 December 2007 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i'm revisiting this now (it's getting a whole lot of love around montreal, randomly) and i've decided it's great. more the beginning than the end, though, i think.

sean gramophone, Friday, 18 January 2008 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

"Rise Above" is the best thing on it.

Simon H., Friday, 18 January 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i too had my misgivings about this band but the absolutely killed it last night in portland. fuck. like why do i even try to make music?? one of those shows ...

interesting fact: apparently ezra koenig of vampire weekend was a dirty projector between 2002-05. the fuck?~!?

uptown churl, Thursday, 17 April 2008 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I read this http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=6538 article in the newspaper. I didn't know until just now that Dirty Projectors were supposed to be fake afropop. I thought they were supposed to be Don Caballero with sick lyrics and harmonies over it.

Has the singer guy from Dirty Projectors ever said himself that he is ripping off black people, or is it just a music journalist overlay? I always thought their sound was just math rock. (Or is it that math rock is ripping off black people??)

Please clarify, thanks.

freewheel, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

he does use some afro-pop guitar work on his records, guitar picking techniques and such, but it's not like it's anything new in rock to do this.

Has the singer guy from Dirty Projectors ever said himself that he is ripping off black people

haha, no, i don't think so

oscar, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

also this :

Vampire Weekend; Arctic Monkeys of 2008?

for an indepth discussion that would prove interesting to you, if you take issue with that article

oscar, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Has the singer guy from Dirty Projectors ever said himself that he is ripping off black people, or is it just a music journalist overlay? I always thought their sound was just math rock. (Or is it that math rock is ripping off black people??)

All I know of Dirty Projectors is whatever the ~hour long animated thing on pitchfork.tv is (which is pretty consistently great, actually) and a live show I caught in Ithaca a few months back. Neither one of those sounded remotely like what you're describing.

Z S, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Seeing them live just solidified how fucking great they are for me.. They did mostly 'Rise Above' stuff and it all sounded stunning...the amazing harmonies, the gobsmacking guitar work...it just sounded effortless and brilliant.

I get the feeling they've yet to do their best stuff though. And folks who lump 'em in with Vampire Weekend are just wrong, if anyone actually does who has heard them both.

Mister Craig, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:21 (fifteen years ago) link

There's some sproingy guitar that suggests they've listened to a few afropop records, but to lump them in with a movement like that is selling them way short--they are playing with the full musical deck and have been for a few albums now.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

How is Dirty Projectors anything like Vampire Weekend? I mean, they're both indie Ivy League bands in New York City, but Dirty Projectors is somewhere in the "weirdy beardy" brand whereas Vampire Weekend's more like MTV pop.

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I've had Rise Above for a few months. "Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie" is very good and the title track is nice, but the rest doesn't do much to tickle my giblets. Is any of their other stuff worth getting?

Freedom, Thursday, 30 October 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I love the way this guy wails. im not too keen on how some of 'The Getty Address' sounds. I find the plonker percussion really grating, but the arrangements are mostly great. 'New Attitude' is my pick. The track 'Fucked For Life' is incredible. You get a sense that with such a strong voice, and the ability to find those snatches of awesome melodic counterparts that there is an ability to just not be so damn difficult with the songs, but i adore how it just is.

siskin/skulls, Thursday, 30 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Slaves' Graves and Ballads!

BusDriverStu (Bus Driver Stu), Friday, 31 October 2008 08:31 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

new album has leaked and is pretty amazing

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 April 2009 11:23 (fifteen years ago) link

That Phoenix compilation with the Rise Above cover (while I was in the middle of rediscovering Damaged) made me curious enough to want to hear this. The Getty Address was pretty great imo.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 10 April 2009 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I've had "Stillness is the Move" on repeat since yesterday

Number None, Friday, 10 April 2009 11:39 (fifteen years ago) link

new one is pretty pretty good. very schizophrenic.

cutty, Friday, 10 April 2009 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link

new album has leaked and is pretty amazing

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, April 10, 2009 6:23 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 07:50 (fifteen years ago) link

love this. "no intention" and "two doves" are each magnificent

europeen handball (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 04:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it's like if matthew friedberger wrote vampire weekend an album

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

i just realized that it reminds me most menomena, but much better

the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i really can't tell if those descriptions should make me excited or not

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

i hate all the bands j0rdan mentioned but i like this album

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

not saying those aren't appropriate sonic comparisons, just saying that not liking those dudes isn't a guarantee you won't be into this

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

this music is insane

cutty, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

it's like if matthew friedberger wrote vampire weekend an album

― the sultan of ban (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:33 AM (9 hours ago)

i've never really gotten the parallels people draw between VW and dirty projectors, even after learning that koenig was a dirty projector for a few years. some of the vocal inflections he and longstreth do are similar, maybe

europeen handball (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i can hear it in the guitars a little bit

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

did not know that is v. surprising

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

funny, i've just been getting around to rise above. does the new stuff have all kinds of crazy-ass tempo changes?

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link

here and there, i guess, but that's not really what i took from it

europeen handball (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

yes it does

cutty, Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

sweet

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish the album were longer. It was great, then Flourescent Half-Dome made my head explode, then it was over.

Tourtiere (Owen Pallett), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

glad this is getting a lot of hype

Plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 15 April 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I am very into the new EPs, mostly because Felicia is amazing. "Super Joao" is somewhat disappointing to me because, well, 'the bossanova mood is not created'

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 17 September 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

I'm very curious about the songwriting process, since it feels very obvious what is a Dave melody and what isn't, no matter who's singing it (like, even when Rihanna is the one singing it).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 17 September 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

the press release said that dave wrote everything for these EPs, except for the lyrics which were a collaboration between him and whichever band member is singing lead for each EP

felicia's other band gemma i really good, i've been really into their album feeling's not a tempo lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZtETeYGVYM

ufo, Friday, 18 September 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

I read that DL collaborated with Kyle from Little Wings on the lyrics for Super João

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 20 September 2020 07:11 (three years ago) link

I hope they do a bananas orchestral EP amongst the later releases too

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, May 7, 2020 8:24 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

just sayin, Friday, 2 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

Ha I was just thinking of that prediction. Will the last one be a big groovy Bitte Orca vibe?

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 5 October 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzhCV1nla7g

last EP out soon

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

love this one

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

the tiny desk concert was lovely.

lukas, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

great track

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the full 5EPs works quite nicely as a whole, it's all pleasantly relaxed while covering quite a few different sounds yet remains cohesive

ufo, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

I got my box set during the week. It's a beautiful package, worth the investment made in March!

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 27 November 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link

Does anyone else find the album (particularly the Earth Crisis segment) profoundly depressing/anxiety-provoking, or do I need to have a talk with my psychiatrist

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

super joao and earth crisis playlists now up on spotify

just sayin, Monday, 7 December 2020 06:42 (three years ago) link

Both playlists are great.

Earth Crisis one is a big compendium of a lot of the stuff DL has mentioned over the years as influential on his composing for chamber ensembles, lots of Mahler lieder.

The Super Joao won has lots of great Brazilian stuff on it (unsurprisingly)

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 14 December 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

The Brazilian one is great, ty

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Does anyone else find the album (particularly the Earth Crisis segment) profoundly depressing/anxiety-provoking, or do I need to have a talk with my psychiatrist

― handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 12:29 (one week ago) link

fwiw, not with this specifically, but I have definitely had that experience where at particular times, I'll be hyper-sensitive to particular records.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 December 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link


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