Jack White - Blunderbuss

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worth reading

markers, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

imo

markers, Friday, 6 April 2012 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are some hilarious bits in that, but ugh @ every sentence of this:

It’s easy to overlook amid the stylistic trappings, but White is a virtuoso — possibly the greatest guitarist of his generation. His best songs, like “Seven Nation Army,” are firmly rooted in the American folk vernacular, yet catchy and durable enough to be chanted in sports arenas worldwide. That he does it with such self-imposed constraints — for instance, his favorite guitar in the White Stripes was made of plastic and came from Montgomery Ward — makes it all the more impressive.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 6 April 2012 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

the line about why aren't kids building model steamboats made me lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 6 April 2012 23:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

His best songs, like “Seven Nation Army,” are firmly rooted in the American folk vernacular, yet catchy and durable enough to be chanted in sports arenas worldwide.

Actually I think this sentence is fine, its the ones bookending it that are steaming piles of o_O

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh my fuckin' god @ that quote

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

jesus christ is this the new york times or guitar player

call all destroyer, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

^haha otm.

Talented dude, sure, but what a pretentious twat in that interview. Too bad.

"i can't quite figure out why everything this dude does inspires an eye-roll from me." - tylerw

Dead on. My guess is because every gesture he makes at being 'authentic' and storying himself as 'Unique Artist' is marred by his (apparently very intentional) framing of himself as a macho guitar god. That, and he apparently buys way too into his own bullshit.

I thought the 90s finally lifted the veil on this kinda crap. 'Coolest'? 'Rock Star'? Jesus Christ.

answering_machine, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I heard David Bowie once said that he didn't really love rock music, but it was an easy way to make money.
I don't know Jack White, but he seems sort of like a snake oil salesman to me.
Sure there's some talent, but there's a lot of marketing going on as well.
I have zero problem with this. Musicians should do everything they can to get their own.

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

"possibly the greatest x" = code for "I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm gonna say it anyway"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

also the writer makes it sound like playing on a *plastic guitar from montgomery ward* or w/e is the equivalent of having three fingers like Django

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

man, nicky i think you are WAY off, dude's a total obsessive music nerd IMO, like starting the white stripes in fucking detroit at that time is a truly stupid idea if you wanted to be famous, i mean fuck they were on sympathy for the record industry...there was like no reason to ever expect they'd graduate from like opening for The Makers or bands like that

plus he was doing music with some older dude and working at an apolstery shop and shit...

like he's definitely got a concocted image, but hell the band named an album De Stijl and had an official color scheme and shit (which is actually one of the really awesome things about the White Stripes)

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

are Airlines a bitch to play or something? i know they got a lot more valuable on the used market after Jack made them a thing

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can't imagine that they're particularly hard to play when set up properly. it was the 60s, not the stone age.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I felt like I was reading something from an interior design magazine...I mean, I know it's kind of a unique design and all and he has always had a deliberate aesthetic (though the yellow/black fixation was kind of an interesting oddity)

He's kind of an interesting guy when he talks at lengt, I think.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

m@tt otm, i'm not much of a fan of White but the second-guessing itt about his entire existence is pretty over the top, he's really just a true blue '90s indie retro rock weirdo who grinded and lucked his way into superstardom

some dude, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

no doubt, a total obsessive music nerd, and a very hard working enthusiastic chap as well. playing with meg in dives and street festivals for two years before making the first album. Recording that classic debut in his father's living room over the course of a weekend, and then recording 2 more classics in the next 2 years...

that was all done by 2001.

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess in a way they were kinda one of the last gasps of 90s indie rock culture that broke, like i'm sure their original big rockstar fantasies would have been to be as big as, like, jon spencer blues explosion

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wonder what the White Stripes/Jack White legacy would be if he had stopped completely after the first 3 albums.

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

just slightly better than every other garage band that peaked in 2001?

some dude, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

they'd probably reform to play Cavestomp

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

followed by a reunion tour with The Go and a repentant Mooney Suzuki, who disavow their Matrix collaboration

Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

good lord that is a period of my music fandom career that i do not miss

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

incidentally it didn't occur to me until the article noted his age that White is only 36 and that i am kind of jealous of how much he's accomplished.

some dude, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

;_; Mooney Suzuki

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

man, nicky i think you are WAY off, dude's a total obsessive music nerd IMO, like starting the white stripes in fucking detroit at that time is a truly stupid idea if you wanted to be famous, i mean fuck they were on sympathy for the record industry...there was like no reason to ever expect they'd graduate from like opening for The Makers or bands like that...

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

m@tt otm, i'm not much of a fan of White but the second-guessing itt about his entire existence is pretty over the top, he's really just a true blue '90s indie retro rock weirdo who grinded and lucked his way into superstardom

― some dude, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:01 AM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no doubt, a total obsessive music nerd, and a very hard working enthusiastic chap as well. playing with meg in dives and street festivals for two years before making the first album. Recording that classic debut in his father's living room over the course of a weekend, and then recording 2 more classics in the next 2 years...

― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:05 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess in a way they were kinda one of the last gasps of 90s indie rock culture that broke, like i'm sure their original big rockstar fantasies would have been to be as big as, like, jon spencer blues explosion

― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:06 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all this otm. some friends and i hung out w jack & meg after a show between the first and second albums. seemed like a genuine, down to earth, almost alarmingly humble music nerd guy. much less caught up in the image of himself than lots of other equally low-level scene players (cough *makers* cough).

and i have no regrets about rock fandom in the late 90s & early 00s. great time to be going out to see underattended punk shows in sleazy dives.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

so this is out there new, getting now.

Bee OK, Monday, 16 April 2012 03:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

new

Bee OK, Monday, 16 April 2012 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tracklist:

01. Missing Pieces 3:27
02. Sixteen Saltines 2:37
03. Freedom At 21 2:51
04. Love Interruption 2:38
05. Blunderbuss 3:06
06. Hypocritical Kiss 2:50
07. Weep Themselves To Sleep 4:19
08. I’m Shakin’ 3:00
09. Trash Tongue Talker 3:20
10. Hip (Eponymous) Poor Boy 3:03
11. I Guess I Should Go To Sleep 2:37
12. On And On And On 3:55
13. Take Me With You When You Go 4:10

Release date: 24 april 2012

Bee OK, Monday, 16 April 2012 03:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

he hasn't made anything i've loved since elephant, and i'm not sure if that's bc he's changed or if i've changed. in either case, i kinda keep an eye on him to see if anything he does is really interesting again. seems like a lot of boring side projects like raconteurs, dead weather, black belles? maybe the magic is just gone

Mordy, Monday, 16 April 2012 03:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think he's got a free pass to fuck around with merely solid side projects and Third Man vinyl nerd ephemera for a little while. i'm still entertained by it all.

caulk the wagon and float it, Monday, 16 April 2012 03:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

2nd Raconteurs album was A+, imo

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

digging "Sixteen Saltines" a lot.

UnderControl, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 06:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had very low expectations of this but it is easily his best album in a decade, albeit a decade in which I have only really liked a couple of Raconteurs songs and little else. I dont understand this notion of Jack lacking authenticity, he is from a working class background and dragged himself up from nothing. I get a feeling he doesn't really have much control of this beast he has created, but that doesn't make him a phony.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, 21 April 2012 12:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm lukewarm over this. It's sorta plain jane. It's like a 67/100, but that's dumb. I don't know why I was expecting so much, lol.
The sound is cool. I like the production. I think he's a great producer. I just think the songwriting is lacking, musically and lyrically.
Some lyrics just totally seem free styled to fit the melody. I guess I wish it also had more electric guitar.
On the plus side, at least he's not relying on that Digitech Whammy so much.

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

my vinyl copy is sat at the post office because it wouldn't fit in my letterbox. won't have a chance to pick it up till saturday. am resisting temptation to dl illicitly, as that's not how a true white stripes fan should behave.

I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I get a feeling he doesn't really have much control of this beast he has created, but that doesn't make him a phony.

― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Saturday, April 21, 2012 8:02 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

surely there have rarely been rock stars in more total control of the beast he created than Jack White!

some dude, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like the first song, "missing pieces," with it's great rhodes piano. I also like "blunderbuss," and the last song, "take me with you..." I also like the first two singles. I don't really hate anything on here.
I think I just had out of this world expectations.

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Discovering that it was Meg who terminated the White Stripes, while Jack would have gone on indefinitely, has totally changed my reading of the lyrics. Like his divorce is a red herring and the subject of a song like Missing Pieces is actually Meg. Maybe this is the common reading but I listened to a review copy a lot before I found out how the split went down.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Thursday, 26 April 2012 09:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Quite like it so far.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 26 April 2012 09:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounds like a series of sketches, interspersed with back of fag packet moments.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wasnt such a big fan of the 2nd Raconteurs album, though it had its moments, but I'm probably the only person who has a soft spot for the 2nd Dead Weather album

when will Jesus bring the composition chops? (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp to Vegemite Grrrl

when will Jesus bring the composition chops? (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 26 April 2012 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

INSIDE LOOK: Jack White & Gary Oldman - Amex UNSTAGED

A live + Digital Music Experience April 27 9pm EST

http://www.youtube.com/user/JackWhiteVevo/unstaged

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Discovering that it was Meg who terminated the White Stripes, while Jack would have gone on indefinitely, has totally changed my reading of the lyrics

she quit in the middle of a tour iirc?

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

like, it doesn't get more obvious than that

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 April 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha, well I can't have been following it too closely then.

And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

huh yeah i didn't know meg quit

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

iirc it was around the same time that a rumored sex tape of Meg was circulating (it was, not surprisingly, fake)

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

is he in them often?

markers, Saturday, 3 August 2013 20:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

'haha you call the NM be srs bro' --jack white

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 August 2013 21:00 (8 months ago) Permalink

Jack White is this millennium's Brian Setzer. Dunno what that makes Auerbach...were there bands that had a beef against the Stray Cats?

Esperanto, why don't you come to your senses? (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 3 August 2013 21:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

no i meant they play his stuff in record stores because apparently the people who work in record stores want me to commit suicide.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:03 (8 months ago) Permalink

the blasters probably said mean things about the stray cats. robert gordon probably sneered at them too. who knows.

scott seward, Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

I feel for any father in a divorce/custody case,

but I mostly only care about myself, so I wish he would put out another album.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 August 2013 22:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

"Then don't judge bro"

ha! what use do we have for the internet then?

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 3 August 2013 23:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

i can understand why people wouldn't like the white stripes but for all their admitted influences they had a pretty unique aesthetic, and i'd say jack did a lot in pointing kids towards a bunch of old blues artists they wouldn't otherwise have discovered. the black keys meanwhile are the work of a dave matthews fan and sound like blues traveler, and when i saw them at sxsw they had a real live shoeshine boy working beside the stage while they played, so fuck them.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Sunday, 4 August 2013 08:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

I have almost zero use for The Black Keys, but I've been told by Nashville friends that Carney, the drummer, is a nice dude and Auerbach treats him like crap (he actually treats everyone like crap, but that includes Carney).

afaic Jack White and Dan Auerbach should just activate their Wonder Twin powers and form of a giant rectum.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 August 2013 08:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

Jack White = Dave Bartram
Dan Auerbach = Shakin' Stevens

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 August 2013 08:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Miriam Linna = that woman from Darts

Addison Doug (Matt #2), Sunday, 4 August 2013 08:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

those 3 comparisons make everything clear to me

phasmid beetle types (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 August 2013 09:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

the black keys meanwhile are the work of a dave matthews fan and sound like blues traveler, and when i saw them at sxsw they had a real live shoeshine boy working beside the stage while they played, so fuck them.

― There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Sunday, August 4, 2013 4:17 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait, seriously? what year was that, i gotta find that shit on youtube

some dude, Sunday, 4 August 2013 10:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

2004, I think? I walked out almost immediately.

There shouldn't be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets. (stevie), Sunday, 4 August 2013 10:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

Am willing to assert that El Camino is a better record than White has made for years.

If you tolerate Bis, then Kenickie will be next (ithappens), Sunday, 4 August 2013 11:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

U R NUTS

all other cassettes are better off crushed (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 4 August 2013 11:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think we just need Greg Ginn involved somehow via his own lawsuits and any bands with Black in the name and the resultant paste will be a court-enforced supergroup of Ginn, Rollins, Morris, White and Auerbach that has tour calling themselves the Grey Bears.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 August 2013 13:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

haven't heard el camino, but despite my better judgment, i do quite like "lonely boy". every else about the black keys is a drag tho.

IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Sunday, 4 August 2013 13:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

everything else, that is

IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Sunday, 4 August 2013 13:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

If we're gonna take sides on which one of these guys is less of a tool, Auerbach's "dance for me, roots music legend, dance for me" Dr. John album was a lot better than White's Wanda Jackson album.

kaleb h. (Everything You Like Sucks), Sunday, 4 August 2013 15:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

i don't mind the first two black keys records, they are decent for fuzzy white-dude blues stuff. everything jack white has ever done kinda makes my skin crawl.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 4 August 2013 16:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, don't listen to Black Keys, but i don't find them annoying, either. Jack White seems like he's trying to be annoying on purpose, which is even more annoying.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 August 2013 16:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

My dream project: Jack White producing and playing on an Alicia Keys album.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 August 2013 17:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

That sounds OK, except for the Jack White part.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 August 2013 18:03 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah i'll stand by the black keys for a couple albums, they kinda lost me around magic potion but rubber factory is pretty great, and the first one is too.

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 4 August 2013 18:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

There's some White Stripes stuff that I genuinely like, but I haven't bothered to check out White's side projects or solo stuff. He really does seem to be pretty humourless and dour - which seems at odds with all his theatrics, costumes, gimmicks, and publicity stunts. I kind of liked the White Stripes' having a concept and a self-conscious myth-making made-up backstory. I know that stuff isn't in fashion - but when the White Stripes first popped up, I thought it was cool to see someone pull together so fully-formed - like the Ramones or Devo or KISS or the NY Dolls. But those bands were funny - and a little creepy and nuts - and it worked for them (at least for awhile). I think Jack White tried to create his own private world like those bands, but it ended up too precious and pretentious and closed-off to be all that interesting. Also, not enough good rocking tunes.

brio, Sunday, 4 August 2013 18:56 (8 months ago) Permalink


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