"pumped" is a bit strong, but I haven't seen How To Make It In America. Was it funny? Tiny Furniture was pretty funny.
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think people are psyched about girls because theyre psyched to see another depiction of the lives of young people in nyc
― max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
How To Make It was about as funny as the early Entourage seasons, with a different kind of name-dropping.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
I don't much about How to Make It in America. For a long time I thought it was a crime story but apparently it's about fashion?
― polyphonic, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
two young guys from Brooklyn want to be designer/entrepeneurs, so they fail miserably at selling skateboards and then at making jeans and then one of them bangs Gina Gershon and there's a chance for success and then the series gets cancelled
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
Luis Guzman was probably the saving grace of the whole affair as an ex-con who actually starts a successful, normal business selling energy drinks
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
wow, this sounds bad
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
imagine Entourage if Vince wanted to be Michael Kors instead of Brad Pitt and was still doing commercials and waiting tables
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
number of GIRLS on the GIRLS talk thread = 0
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
i'm lurking.
― eyes of dora maar (get bent), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
i count at least 2 in the first few posts?
― some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
Oh yeah, horseshoe made one post. I stand corrected. (Donna is not a GIRL, btw)
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
i been done fooled
― some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
i figure you're all girls unless your display name starts "Mr."
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3b/Boys_Don
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
and they think they know how girls talkgirls talk, girls talk
― buzza, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
I am gonna make BOYS, it's gonna be all about an English guy in LA and his basic middle-class post grad school life.
Actually I think it would be great if I had the time to make it.
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
isn't their a current buzz band named girls too, not sure if the world is big enough tbh
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
i liked the first 10mins of tiny furniture but then i turned it off cause i cant deal w/that level of embarrassment
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
i'm also lurking. i am putting off watching tiny furniture because i assume i'm going to really like it and then feel like it's very important for me to defend it on ilx and embarrass myself etc.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
don't be embarassed
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
So much embarrassment itt.
― 1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
its a good movie horseshoe you should just go ahead and watch it, its p self aware and privileged or w/e
― lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
i've softened a bit on tiny furniture. it's not without its charms. there's something about dunham as a performer too, where at first you think you're not gonna like her but you end up finding her pretty compelling. not interested in Girls but i'll probably give it a shot
the comparison to whit stillman is interesting because the milieu of eg. Metropolitan is certainly as alien to me (though the place & time of the movie is also intentionally obscured) as the one in tiny furniture, yet Metropolitan is a movie i can relate to far more easily than TF - on a broad level the group dynamics in it are just so well observed that it hits that sweet spot of feeling universal without being generic (and maybe being about boys put it more in my wheelhouse too)
i dont think i could argue that tiny furniture is less well observed, because im not in a position to know, but it was definitely less relevant to my life
― max, Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
i think that's certainly why they're cynical about it though (its why i am anyway)
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
i tried metropolitan expecting to like it and turned it off after like fifteen minutes as utterly unredeemablei tried tiny furniture expecting to dislike it and ended up being shocked at how good it was
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
how to make it in america was pretty crummy (in a bland way, not in the way entourage made you feel that it was necessary for civilization that beverly hills be bombed), but it did lead to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7vPfmiDLpI
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
heh the first 15-20 mins of tiny furniture are a real trial by fire imo - once you get past that it starts to get a bit better
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link
that guzman video has moments of pleasure in it for sure
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
the 15 mins of 'how to make it america' i watched seemed like the same empty vodka ad fantasy-world that lots of other nyc shows inhabit for all their privilege the characters in 'tiny furniture' are occupying a more realistic and observed world
― Lamp, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
i agree though i did find it funny that hbo was clearly pushing how to make it and now girls as replacements for entourage and sexcity when neither are appealing as lifestyle fantasies in the slightest, which is the aspect that kept people watching their predecessors long past their primes
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:53 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh yeah, sure, i was just calling out al's (intentional?) point-missing
― max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
admrl can i be in your show??
― y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
the same empty vodka ad fantasy-world
love this description
― y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
of course!
― og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
i tried metropolitan expecting to like it and turned it off after like fifteen minutes as utterly unredeemable
Watch the whole movie, it's dope.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
man i just i dunno
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
― max, Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:10 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
oh yeah it was pretty intentional. but seriously at this point any new york-based artist whose art is primarily about being a starving artist in new york can jump in a well afaic
― some dude, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
food in there
― lag∞n, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
also other artists, so warm
― wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 April 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
i know no-one was waiting for a sincere & impassioned defence of miranda july's work itt but:
But it would’ve been more repulsive if I was like, “Okay, I’m going to have her work in a prison, because that will make her gritty and likeable.” That’s playing it safe, to make everyone likeable and a good person, you know? I think it’s more interesting if you go all the way with the world you have, and really look at it, and push it to an even more extreme extreme. So I guess that’s my answer. But then I don’t have the same relationship to those characters that a critic would, because I wrote them, and they come from things that matter to me.
she said this about the future, in response to criticism of it solely depicting the angst of handsome metropolitan white liberals, & it's otm i think. i can't correlate between filmmaker circumstances & films in class terms - & it ignores the i think pretty broad correlation between higher-class filmmakers having made a lot of the key depictions of lower-class living in cinema (particularly british & neo-realist stuff iirc) - but yeah i can't understand automatic disdain for something that doesn't feel earthy enough.
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 6 April 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
the 2nd ep of this show is called "Vagina Panic" fyi
― johnny crunch, Friday, 6 April 2012 11:52 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really give a fuck if the subjects of someone's fiction are suitably earthy or working class or whatever, I'm just tired of the world bowing down everytime someone finds a slightly insightful new way to say "student loans, amirite?"
― some dude, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
like honestly, i think it's great that navel-gazing meditations on urban bohemia have made great creative strides since Reality Bites, but that was gonna happen no matter what with all those monkeys typing away about the same subject
― some dude, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:09 (twelve years ago) link
it is hard, turning on the tv and its like non-stop navel-gazing mediations on urban bohemia
― max, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link
*throws tv down well*
― max, Friday, 6 April 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
so glad I had cable taken out and my antenna gets nothing
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 April 2012 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
max you've got new york goggles on you don't even notice this stuff do you
― some dude, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
no! i mean, really! how many shows on tv are "navel-gazing meditations on urban bohemia" right now!
― max, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda think you may have internet goggles on where you think that "the world" is "bowing down" to "insightful new ways to say 'student loans'"
― max, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, replace some dude's "the world" with the more accurate "whatever phrase means 'Tumblr whites' that won't cause a 30 post clusterfuck," and he's as otm as otm gets
― #yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 6 April 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link