GIRLS talk (the Lena Dunham thread)

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Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

TRUTH. BOMB.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't know enough about Kelly Reichardt to know if she has experience of being young and broke in nu-recession America, but I'm going to assume not.

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I get your point max but I guess it really depends on how much the filmmaker has a public presence that forms part of the conversation around the film. Obviously with LD that is a factor, but not every artist fits neatly into some social or economic type and it always seems like a much bigger deal than it should be. If you only make work about who you are and where you are from, you can easily turn that into an examination of identity or you can just come across as totally self-absorbed. I think it is to Lena Dunham's credit that folks ITT seem split on that question.

― og (admrl), Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah i agree with this

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is Louis cK "richer" than Lena Dunham? Is he really more "self-aware" or is he just much harder on himself? He's also much older of course and balder and fatter

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

louis ck is now hella rich
also balder fatter and more penis endowed

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

why the pootie tang royalties alone

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

He certainly doesn't portray himself as being rich though

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost

Endowed him with more penis?

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

more penis than lena presumably

doubling back on that promo joke, i love that it looks like her parents have taken her out to dinner to tell her the support teat has been tapped; that's such a privilege moment.
some of my redneck friends just came home and found their shit in bags by the trailer park door and the folks said happy birthday and good luck out there

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

He certainly doesn't portray himself as being rich though

In the first season when the school bus breaks down he gets each kid their own limo.

polyphonic, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha, forgot about that

Number None, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lena Dunham's life of privilege is no less interesting to me than Larry David's or James Bond's or etc.

polyphonic, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Novel James Bond was a rough, poor kid who found it difficult to interact with polite society IIRC

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

nevermind privelege, "the lives of young people in NYC" is a pretty tapped vein, were you guys this pumped about How To Make It In America?

ferrante's inferranteno (some dude), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

"pumped" is a bit strong, but I haven't seen How To Make It In America. Was it funny? Tiny Furniture was pretty funny.

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont think people are psyched about girls because theyre psyched to see another depiction of the lives of young people in nyc

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

How To Make It was about as funny as the early Entourage seasons, with a different kind of name-dropping.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't much about How to Make It in America. For a long time I thought it was a crime story but apparently it's about fashion?

polyphonic, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

two young guys from Brooklyn want to be designer/entrepeneurs, so they fail miserably at selling skateboards and then at making jeans and then one of them bangs Gina Gershon and there's a chance for success and then the series gets cancelled

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Luis Guzman was probably the saving grace of the whole affair as an ex-con who actually starts a successful, normal business selling energy drinks

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, this sounds bad

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

imagine Entourage if Vince wanted to be Michael Kors instead of Brad Pitt and was still doing commercials and waiting tables

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

number of GIRLS on the GIRLS talk thread = 0

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm lurking.

eyes of dora maar (get bent), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i count at least 2 in the first few posts?

some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, horseshoe made one post. I stand corrected. (Donna is not a GIRL, btw)

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

i been done fooled

some dude, Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i figure you're all girls unless your display name starts "Mr."

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

and they think they know how girls talk
girls talk, girls talk

buzza, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am gonna make BOYS, it's gonna be all about an English guy in LA and his basic middle-class post grad school life.

Actually I think it would be great if I had the time to make it.

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

isn't their a current buzz band named girls too, not sure if the world is big enough tbh

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i liked the first 10mins of tiny furniture but then i turned it off cause i cant deal w/that level of embarrassment

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm also lurking. i am putting off watching tiny furniture because i assume i'm going to really like it and then feel like it's very important for me to defend it on ilx and embarrass myself etc.

horseshoe, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't be embarassed

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

So much embarrassment itt.

1 of paper = 4 of coin (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

its a good movie horseshoe you should just go ahead and watch it, its p self aware and privileged or w/e

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've softened a bit on tiny furniture. it's not without its charms. there's something about dunham as a performer too, where at first you think you're not gonna like her but you end up finding her pretty compelling. not interested in Girls but i'll probably give it a shot

the comparison to whit stillman is interesting because the milieu of eg. Metropolitan is certainly as alien to me (though the place & time of the movie is also intentionally obscured) as the one in tiny furniture, yet Metropolitan is a movie i can relate to far more easily than TF - on a broad level the group dynamics in it are just so well observed that it hits that sweet spot of feeling universal without being generic (and maybe being about boys put it more in my wheelhouse too)

i dont think i could argue that tiny furniture is less well observed, because im not in a position to know, but it was definitely less relevant to my life

i dont think people are psyched about girls because theyre psyched to see another depiction of the lives of young people in nyc

― max, Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think that's certainly why they're cynical about it though (its why i am anyway)

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

i tried metropolitan expecting to like it and turned it off after like fifteen minutes as utterly unredeemable
i tried tiny furniture expecting to dislike it and ended up being shocked at how good it was

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

how to make it in america was pretty crummy (in a bland way, not in the way entourage made you feel that it was necessary for civilization that beverly hills be bombed), but it did lead to this:

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

heh the first 15-20 mins of tiny furniture are a real trial by fire imo - once you get past that it starts to get a bit better

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

that guzman video has moments of pleasure in it for sure

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

the 15 mins of 'how to make it america' i watched seemed like the same empty vodka ad fantasy-world that lots of other nyc shows inhabit for all their privilege the characters in 'tiny furniture' are occupying a more realistic and observed world

Lamp, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

i agree though i did find it funny that hbo was clearly pushing how to make it and now girls as replacements for entourage and sexcity when neither are appealing as lifestyle fantasies in the slightest, which is the aspect that kept people watching their predecessors long past their primes

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think that's certainly why they're cynical about it though (its why i am anyway)

― these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:53 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah, sure, i was just calling out al's (intentional?) point-missing

max, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

admrl can i be in your show??

y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

the same empty vodka ad fantasy-world

love this description

y'tulip, y'pea-brained earwig (donna rouge), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

of course!

og (admrl), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i tried metropolitan expecting to like it and turned it off after like fifteen minutes as utterly unredeemable

Watch the whole movie, it's dope.

polyphonic, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink


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