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The last 10 minutes of the Leverkusen gig are a completely unreleased piece which sounds like a collapsing Irish jig, it is hilarious and wonderful

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 April 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I meant to post this version of 'midnight'! Leverkusen again. I like that Leverkusen gig, parts almost sound like Conny is still in the band

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 April 2012 05:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

1998 tour was much better than the 2004 tour they put on the DVD

The digital pitchfeedback version of Numbers, much better than the recent live versions where they've reverted to samples from the 81 studio recording

One of their 3 new songs, I can see why they didn't put them out but live, they sounded great

About 6:10 into this one it became clear how much basic channel they'd been taking in, Would have been a much better thing to put out instead of expo2000

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 April 2012 05:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

mp, it's just so easy to buy a ticket to NYC

Dominique, Thursday, 5 April 2012 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, looks like I got a lot of searching to do. I did quite like the 1975 "Concert Classics" (!?) album, which had something called "Klingklang" which sounded a lot more like the land they use on Mr. Rogers Neighborhood when they go into Make-Believe land, it's really goood

still listening to "Nippon Numbers", I just remembered that Ralf kind of starts rapping two-thirds through Autobahn, all the places you can go "Auf Leon auf Madrid auf der Autobahn"...then to "Auf Hongkong auf Tokyo auf der Aero-plane", ha!!

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

oof that 42-minute Autobahn is Autobahn-tastic! thx for posting.

tylerw, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

(from right to left)
Aston = Ralf
Marvin = Florian
JB = Wolfgang
Oritsé = Karl

beanz meanz lulz (snoball), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aston has that worried look that Ralf sometimes has, while Marvin seems more confident. Oritsé looks the youngest, so he's Karl, which leaves JB as Wolfgang.

beanz meanz lulz (snoball), Friday, 6 April 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

already? jeez. from Pithfork:

As part of Kraftwerk's eight-night retrospective New York museum residency this month, the band will release a limited-edition box set of all eight of their albums. 2,000 copies of the set will be sold on the Museum of Modern Art's website, and at gift shops in the Museum of Modern Art in Manhattan and MoMA/PS1 in Queens. It'll include remastered versions of the set released in 2009 (the massive reissue The Catalogue).

are they already dated sounding or something?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Kraftwerk but this stuff doesn't surprise me. They're in this for the $$ now it seems - much like any other self-respecting band looking to milk their back catalogue with a "reunion tour".

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pitchfork's phrasing is kinda unclear - it's a limited edition, 2000 copies, numbered edition of the Catalogue box in a black sleeve (original was white). I'm a MOMA member, so I bought one - $175 after taxes and shipping.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah this really doesn't look like anything other than the 2009 version

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Saturday, 7 April 2012 07:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't believe that a band 3/4 comprised of decades-long non-creative employees of Kling Klang Corp are now "in it for the money" *shakes head sadly*

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 7 April 2012 07:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Appalled that the ruthless director of Kling Klang is doing such grossly mercantile things as: diligently learning and rehearsing multiple arrangements of dozens of songs, to be performed once each, for a hugely remunerative audience of approx 10000 payers over a week

┗|∵|┓ (sic), Saturday, 7 April 2012 07:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

The MoMA set is going up now in the museum

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

My guess is tha number is far far less than 10,000. I would the number is prolly around 3500.

kwhitehead, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

**guess the number is***

kwhitehead, Saturday, 7 April 2012 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Looks small:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7m5lyld

So Efficient! (doo dah), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'd think if they wanted more money they'd just do more shows, these guys sell out everywhere

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't really think they need more money exactly, do think that they and their fans are obsessive audiophiles

wrapped sausage stylus (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 7 April 2012 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

The exhibitions at PS1 and not MoMA, right? I think I'll be up to see it next week

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 7 April 2012 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Set List:
"We Are the Robots"
"Autobahn"
"Kometenmelodie 1 & 2"
"Mitternacht" / "Morgenspaziergang"
"Radioactivity"
"Trans-Europe Express"
"The Model"
"Man-Machine"
"Numbers" / "Computer World"
"Computer Love" (The Mix version)
"Home Computer" (The Mix version)
"Tour de France" / "Aerodynamik"
"Expo 2000"
"Boing Boom Tschak" / "Techno Pop" / "Musique Non-Stop"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/arts/music/kraftwerk-retrospective-at-the-museum-of-modern-art-review.html
http://www.spin.com/articles/kraftwerk-invade-moma-residency-byte-museum

Kraftwerk revisited the “Autobahn” album rather than reproducing its exact timbres and proportions. It held on to its instrumental passages and the generally somber melodic lines of the album’s other tracks but played them from a changed perspective — for instance, trading the album’s upbeat hints of 1950s and ’60s rock for something more steady-state. The most transformed track was “Morgenspaziergang” (“Morning Walk”), which in 1974 juxtaposed synthesized burbles and tweets — oscillator birdsong — with its tune played on a wooden flute. Now the tune came from a keyboard, true to the latter-day Kraftwerk.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really, really hope someone is recording these

Xerox of Fate, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

my ex is going tonight; i am not the plus one
:/

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got my copy of the box in today's mail. #0052 of 2000.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Brakhage, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whoops this one is much better

Brakhage, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm so curious as to what they'll do to Radio-Activity tonight... It's such a strange and singular record in their catalog. I still cannot believe I'm going!

Clarke B., Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

autobahn & radioactivity were the two I was most interested in going to precisely because they're the ones likely to sound the most different

seriously you guys, if any of you get a lead on even the most sawed-off room recording, drop me a line

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Awesome couple of videos, but the first one demonstrates what it would be like to have a burst eardrum at a Kraftwerk gig.

they do do doo doo sandwiches (snoball), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

milt, if you get one, hook up your old pal Xerox

Xerox of Fate, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

so, my gf won tickets and I'm going to TEE... :-D

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Apparently VW hung onto 25% of the tickets, wtf

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 12 April 2012 12:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hung onto? That's sponsorship. MoMa and Kraftwerk and VW must have agreed on that, so your wtf should be aimed at all parties.

willem, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Went last night. Very well done by the MOMA. Ticket pick up was easy, the room wasn't crowded in the least (could have fit at least 100 more folks in there, if they wanted.) Radio-Activity pasrt of the shwo was the highlight (naturally) and they followed it up with a nice lengthy version of Autobahn where, I think, they mixed things up a bit from the original. Trans Europe Express was a standout as well.

Even though it was a great event I can't help thinking that there will probably be an SNL skit making fun of these shows. The teutonic seriousness in which they were presented could easily be seen as comic by some.

kwhitehead, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

sorta been done

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah but if any of the SNL writers were there they have some new material to work with.

kwhitehead, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

The teutonic seriousness in which they were presented could easily be seen as comic by some.

yeah but Kraftwerk have always had a sly comic element to them. "The Robots" is really funny especially when the robots themselves appear onstage

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

koogs, Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Brakhage, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fred Armisen was there last night, so maybe!

prior, Thursday, 12 April 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

One original member. This is like Wings performing the works of the Beatles, with Linda and Denny Laine squeezed into John and George's old Beatles suits.

everything, Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'd argue that Kraftwerk and the Beatles have kinda different aesthetics at play

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

At this point they're essentially a tribute band to themselves ... which could only really work with them. They are machines after all. I would bet Ralf has plans to have himself replaced in the band eventually.

Brakhage, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can deal with the absence of Bartos and Flur but it's really not the same without Schneider, who I always thought was the soul of Kraftwerk. That ghost of a half-smile that he always carried was synecdoche for the sly humour I referred to above.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Totally agree. Without Schneider it's not Kraftwerk. And Bartos and Flur are under-appreciated I think - after all, both were in the band for 15 years. Schneider and Hutter have done practically nothing without them.

everything, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's basically OTM, it's always been about Hutter and Schneider for me, though I'm reasonably certain that Bartos is responsible for a lot of their more brilliant melodic stuff, hence why I don't think new music coming out of these guys is going to sound like their glory years

but in a performance...ehhh, no biggie

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah impression I got was that Techno Pop was really the last gasp, since Bartos wrote the catchy melodies. Once he was gone there's only increasing production values. What Ralf can manage now is to tour a greatest-hits show in perpetuity - which I think is a bit sad when you consider that there are tons of younger people who would love to write pop material in a Kraftwerk style. Ralf doesn't have to be the sole writer in the band (along with his manager). But this is all just hope since I would love to have a new record that's better than Soundtracks.

I say all this but I'm still really excited about soundboard from these leaking!

Brakhage, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are tons of younger people who would love to write pop material in a Kraftwerk style.

yes there are, and plenty of them have released stuff too, but IMO what Kraftwerk did at their peak isn't easy at all to replicate

Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink


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