Best 90s electronic music duo

Crystal Method in their prime was a total budget Chems ripoff but everyone who loves the Chems' big beat period should listen to CM's "Keep Hope Alive" at least once:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFqmz5NS1bM

"Busy Child" is pretty bad-ass too; actually their first album would have made an amazing EP

xp: I don't dislike The Grid but compared to EVERYONE else on this list, including groups I dislike/hate like Air and Leftfield, they are non-entities

(also everyone knows that The Grid was all about "Swamp Thing")

Autechre has the most interesting catalog of the whole list, BoC is the most accessible (for good reason), Plaid is skewwy for me: I get no real vibe from them, as they seem largely part of the movement rather than innovators themselves. They just can't seem to decide whether to be melodic like BoC or as boundary pushing as Autechre, so a lot of their songs always seem to start off with that jittering, goose-stepping IDM kinda thing before transitioning into melody. They're very stiff in concert, with even head nods minimal at best.

Death In Vegas also bears notable mention, ignoring their reggae remixes and Oasis collabs. "Rekkit" & "Girls" are masterpieces.

Oh come on, Air never did anything as trippy as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gocee0RWvho

The Grid never did anything as beautiful as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcUrEn7xmNE&ob=av3n

(also everyone knows that The Grid was all about "Swamp Thing")

They'd already released two albums before Swamp Thing; I genuinely think you might enjoy some of the stuff on those albums, knowing your taste.

lots of good choices here but if I were to rank the best three albums any of these guys have made both In Sides and Snivilisation would be on it so I guess you know where I'm voting

though I would have voted Denki Groove if they were on the poll!! they've got the other one in the top three

B12 were about 1,000,000,000,000 times better than Autechre

seems unlikely but i will check them out when i figure out how to stop youtube giving me 100 videos about vitamin b12 supplements.

It is sort of funny how "out there" we all thought BoC and Autechre were, and you listen to it now and it sounds really basic (which is no bad thing in itself)

Kelpolaris if you think BoC are "more accessible" than Orbital, then you mad doggy.

wait, who thought BoC was "out there"? their entire steeze was immaculately crafted nostalgia bombs tied to awesome beats

Come on, nobody in Air ever made an Acid House album with Genesis P Orridge before either of them had ever heard any real Acid House, based solely on second hand descriptions thereof. How cool is that?

I never thought BoC were out there - like I said above, their sound felt pretty basic IDM to me when MHtRC came out, which is why I never understood what all the fuss was about. As for Autechre, they proved being "out there" wasn't necessarily a good thing; I still find their more abstract 90s stuff terribly dull.

(x-post to Tracer)

that's still out there. there's one BoC track that pretty much uniformly freaks everyone out - "The Color of the Fire" I think it is.

wait, that track freaks people out???????? that track is warm and inviting!

reading other people's reactions to Boards of Canada comes across to me like meeting a room full of people talking about how terrifying and sinister they find "Babe"

The one with the creepy girl going "I... looooove... you" with the sinister warbly synth bass?

Best creepy electronic music duo of the 90s = Coil

The one with the creepy girl going "I... looooove... you" with the sinister warbly synth bass?

I honestly do not think that child sounds creepy, nor does the bass sound sinister. The whole thing reads to me like an enormous warm blanket of sound.

no that's definitely the point where most people are like "okay, you should put something else on now"

Yeah, BoC definitely have creepy vibes, though they're most prevalent on Geogaddi.

little louie vega and kenny dope gonzales

^

also, i should learn not to say "we" when i mean "me"

People think that BoC sounds creepy when, like, Main records exist?

either way I always feel like BoC's music creeps me out like 20% as much as they want it to, "Color of the Fire" excepted. which is ultimately why I feel they're massively overrated.

"Best creepy electronic music duo of the 90s = Coil"

I guess coming into this stuff from the industrial area, where yeah Coil but also Laibach, Skinny Puppy, TKK, Severed Heads, SPK, Pankow, Tear Garden, KMFDM, etc etc etc kind of puts me in a different headspace when approaching BoC than most others but I can count on one hand the number of tracks I've heard from them from MHARTC on that I would consider "creepy" (I don't really remember the pre-MHARTC material; I've heard it like once or twice).

how about early drexciya - gerald "dopplereffekt" donald and james marcel stinson

in that spirt, what i find odd about this list is why it sort of seems predisposed to the album-selling, indie-friendly acts like chemical bros, basement jaxx etc. but with two/three more serious duos thrown in.

ultimately aren't there about a zillion 90s dance duos?

xxp - well BoC is more popular than all those acts, it's kinda like how Radiohead gets insane credit for being "experimental", when they're really just a kinda experimental act that happened to get very famous

it is debatable as to whether BoC is "more popular" than Skinny Puppy or KMFDM; it's way more accurate to say they have different audiences

Orbital out of these.

Röyksopp used to be part of Alania and Those Norwegians in the 90s, and weren't really Röyksopp until the 00s.

in that spirt, what i find odd about this list is why it sort of seems predisposed to the album-selling, indie-friendly acts like chemical bros, basement jaxx etc. but with two/three more serious duos thrown in.

i agree, <3 ledge and don't want to shit on this poll but ... maybe this should be called like "best electronic duo that had a video on mtv"

n/h

Kelpolaris if you think BoC are "more accessible" than Orbital, then you mad doggy.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:59 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I sort of regret that post as I was typing out, and trying to find, my thoughts and didn't have anything really of substance to say - save for that I typed more than a couple lines and clicking "submit" is so damn easy.

But yeah, as a casual listener these days BoC just demands so much less attention - especially MHTRTC. it's very "chill-out" whereas orbital I feel takes the infrastructure of accessibility and goes to length of convoluting it, which is sometimes disruptive. BoC songs are much more singular in their songs, thematically - each one has it's definitive vibe, whereas Orbital often comes across to me as seeking for, if not variety, a sort of desire to innovate within the confines of the songs themselves.

but i know what you mean - "little fluffy clouds" i bet has outplayed any BoC songs in a lounge/club by ratio of 2827309487:4, with BoC only being really out in the public eye with a soundtrack behind Spaced (Simon Pegg's v. good mid 90s comedy tv) and some episodes of Top Gun, or Top Ride, or whatever the fuck that car show is I'm not familiar with the name of.

I also derive this from fact that a co-worker of mine, in an old after-class job I had assembling iPad accessories, had - apparently - a juggalo friend who deemed BoC "joint music". I thought this was bullshit, thinking privately that the guy probably just liked RoyGBiv and the video for Dayvan Cowboy but turned out I ended up meeting the guy and he was a full-fucking-fledged fan, with the juggalo thing only preceding him in high-school days. yes, this is my testimony.

Orbital's Brown Album, and in particular, the "Lush 3-1/3-2/Impact/Remind" suite, singlehandedly won this indierock kid to the EDM dark side. I spent years scouring psytrance for more "Remind" like thrills. Their first 4 albums are all polished gleaming architecture.

I still have time for Autechre, Boards of Canada, Black Dog/Plaid, Reload/Jedi Knights/Global Communication, but Orbital is where it all started for me.

Oh, Wonky streaming on NME

"little fluffy clouds" is The Orb, not Orbital

fuck.

Tempted to start an "indie/guitar kids - where did electronic music start for you?" to see if Orbital or Chemical Brothers really was the gateway drug ppl claim.

I mean I'd say it was New Order -> 808 State for me after Technique. But that leaves out a lot of the electronic-goth-stomp stuff that I'd happily imbibe in the late 80s. But it's also that thing I've said before where I really didn't feel like there was a polarisation of electronic vs guitar until the mid 90s and, not having "got" IDM in the late 90s, I found myself on the wrong side of the divide when it opened up. For me it's a much more shifting thing than "guitar kids discovered indie friendly dance." I recognise there did become a polarisation but with hindsight it looks imposed rather than organic.

We've been through this before, also the point at which Select Magazine stopped covering St Etienne, Bill Drummond and Aphex Twin to concentrate exclusively on Blur and BritPop, I was too naive to notice the shift moving away but there was definitely a point where it had gone.

what about when j spaceman big upped photek in nme

(sorry, massively off topic now. I'll shut up)

Tempted to start an "indie/guitar kids - where did electronic music start for you?" to see if Orbital or Chemical Brothers really was the gateway drug ppl claim.

what got you into dance music?

It's just a weird question and no longer relevant because it has a rockist assumption as its starting point - that non-electronic dance music is somehow the default in music? Which is not even something we can *pretend* to hold culturally true any more.

As a white male middle class teenager in a small English town non-electronic guitar music was totally the norm. But that was 16+ years ago.

It's just a weird question and no longer relevant because it has a rockist assumption as its starting point - that non-electronic dance music is somehow the default in music? Which is not even something we can *pretend* to hold culturally true any more.

this is why my answer on the original thread was "Prince or Depeche Mode"

it actually should have been "Prince or Men Without Hats"