Let's talk about Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and how unbelievably fucked up this all is

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/09/health/policy/09guns.html

this is fuckin nuts

― catbus otm (gbx), Monday, April 2, 2012 1:34 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and repealed, apparently, but still

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/04/george_zimmerman_killing_trayvon_martin_has_sanford_s_black_community_angry_.single.html

two days old now, but: dave weigel goes to sanford

Owning a gun is like driving a car: it is a privilege, not a right, and in a sane and civil country, it should be super fucking easy for you to lose that privilege.

Go back to car-free Russian, you pinko.

http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_nonblack_version_john_derbyshire

I read one of derbyshire's books on math. Had no idea he was such a terrible semi-human lump of shit.

oh my god

(10) Thus, while always attentive to the particular qualities of individuals, on the many occasions where you have nothing to guide you but knowledge of those mean differences, use statistical common sense:

(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.

(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.

(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).

(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.

(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.

(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.

(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.

(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.

(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.

ugh i really need takimag not to exist

so uh, ironies:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/opinion/the-law-of-the-gun-in-florida.html

Florida leads the pack in passing bills written by the gun lobby that block any sensible attempt to control the purchase and use of firearms. The dangerous folly of these laws was on display in the Trayvon Martin shooting, and will again be on display when Republicans gather for their presidential convention in Tampa this August.

The City Council is sensibly preparing tight security precautions for the downtown area by temporarily banning clubs, hatchets, switchblades, pepper spray, slingshots, chains, shovels and all manner of guns that shoot water, paint or air.

But not handguns that shoot actual bullets. In other words, someone outside the convention hall will be entitled to pack a handgun, but not a squirt gun.

lmao

lmao that derbyshit cites noted 5t0rmfr0nt fave griffe du leon

derbyhooves

http://delong.typepad.com/images/Derbyshire_diploma.gif

I always get takimag confused with tavi's mag and it surprises me every time some sends me a link and its something racist

holy shit that Derbyshire column is str8 up h8ful

derbyshire is str8 up h8ful

some evil shit :(

also note the weirdly hostile defense of "objectivity" by both jim goad (from whom you'd expect it) and vice magazine founder gavin macinnes, from whom it might be slightly surprising.

lol in what universe would that be surprising from Gavin "I call all my friends racial slurs, what's the big deal?" MacInnes

not that i've got anything against objectivity, open-mindedness, a willingness to admit the limits of knowledge, etc. it's the challopsy tone that bugs, being so preeningly "brave" as to admit that "certainly groups may not shine as brightly on IQ tests"...

xp, yeah i know, but i feel that vice & gavin often get some kind of weird and wholly undeserved hipster pass on grotesqely racist bullshit

not around here they don't!

and wtf racists have been claiming 'objectivity' since ca. 1830

If you haven't read this thread yet, you should:

Let's talk about Vice Magazine

vice and mcinnes have parted ways fyi, but i don't know the deets there

i mean, mci is happily being a racist cunt all on his own, and vice is only marginally better w/o him (maybe, idk)

sure, but there's the gigantic fight in the middle of the thread about McInnes's predilection for dropping n-bombs and f-bombs and a mind-meltingly stupid defense along the lines of "but by doing this, he is robbing those words of their power!"

ha i remember that thread being a landmark blowout, but none of the content. is momus in there?

at his momusiest

This goes back to my distinction between acts and deeds, and my first point on this whole thread. By all means be enraged (or encourage your family to be enraged) by transvalued epithets. After all, no interpretative act can be innocent, whatever the intended outcome of the transvaluation. But don't forget (and don't let your violent family forget) to judge by acts too. Vice employs homosexual and black contributors and promotes their perspectives and their terms. In the subculture Vice addresses, those people actually have considerably more cultural capital (ie cool) than straight and white people. It's by those deeds, and in that context, that you should judge the mag's editors.

― Momus (Momus), Monday, October 14, 2002

such a horrible dipshit. don't miss this troll at all.

I'm reeling from that article still. Sort of sorry I posted it (sorry I ever read it or saw it for sure). It's just that there's no codewords or anything. It's just pure racism. Basically no different than those klan types gawker reported on the other day. Usually you expect some room for plausible deniability or whatever. All the things that ppl sort of half-joke about getting said behind closed doors -- he just comes out and says them all. It's very depressing.

considering it's on takimag

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taki's_Magazine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavi_Gevinson

I'm reeling from that article still. Sort of sorry I posted it (sorry I ever read it or saw it for sure). It's just that there's no codewords or anything. It's just pure racism. Basically no different than those klan types gawker reported on the other day. Usually you expect some room for plausible deniability or whatever. All the things that ppl sort of half-joke about getting said behind closed doors -- he just comes out and says them all. It's very depressing.

yeah, I was actually taken aback by its brazenness. lol cloistered liberal I guess

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservative

*wonders if derbyshire owns toe shoes*

maybe that's why he almost got shot one time?

i'm assuming he "almost got shot" in the same sense that george zimmerman "almost got shot"

so glad you guys are finally getting on board the taki magazine train, its my favorite source of non-NRO derb garbage and gavin mcinnes wonderful brand of "hey bro im just sayin" *pulls imaginary whistle* toot toot!

taki more like tacky!

i mean, the train too

i said this somewhere on ilx but takimag is like someone wanted to run a dull airport/society mag but then have everyone be racist

yeah, its really jarring

theres something funny about them hiring mcinnes though, like that basically if you get fired from anywhere for being a racist shit, dont worry, taki mag is there

Taki Theodoracopulos (Greek: Τάκης Θεοδωρακόπουλος; born August 11, 1937),[1] originally named Panagiotis Theodoracopulos is a Greek/American journalist, socialite, and political commentator.
Better known as Taki, diminutive for Panagiotis, he is a Greek-born journalist and writer living in New York City, London and Switzerland. In addition to his 1991 memoir Nothing to Declare (about his life as a "playboy" and his experience spending three months in jail for drug conviction, during which time he received a bottle of vaseline from a friend of his), his column "High Life" has appeared in The Spectator since 1977,[2] and he has also written for National Review, the London Sunday Times, Esquire, Vanity Fair, the New York Press, and Quest, among others. In 2002 Taki founded The American Conservative magazine with Pat Buchanan and Scott McConnell. He was also publisher of the British magazine Right Now!. He currently publishes and writes for Taki's Magazine, a Libertarian webzine of "politics and culture", which features contributions from writers such as Steve Sailer, Paul Gottfried, Jim Goad, Gavin McInnes and Charles Glass.

hey whaddaya know Taki's Mag also has a piece by Jim Goad about Trayvon who wants to read it? lol me neither fuck that guy

jim goad piece boils down to "we don't really know what happened, and i'm brave enough to admit it". feebly trying to shame those outraged into "objectively" not giving a shit.

"we don't really know what happened" is code for "evidence? fuck that, i like my version better"

anyone who calls himself a 'paleoconservative' or 'paleolibertarian' shd be avoided at all costs. they are invariably the most repellent writers and thinkers on earth and barely even good for perverse entertainment value.

i don't really 'get' jim goad, who is he? there's a certain kind of counterculture writer who plays around with hard-right shit half for shock value, half for value-value that i've never really given a shit about. like boyd rice. is he like that?

I LOVE THE 90'S!!!!!

yeah he's very much in the boyd rice mode. different stylistically but same basic deal.