2008 Primaries Thread

really the fact that hil is going over the votes looking for shit like that and thats the best she's got is sad as fuck

the thing is, though, every time he took a shot at her she rolled with it & busted back, every time she took at shot at him he kinda blew it

deej has word not come in there wherever you live that "whitewater" ended up amounting to a big fat zero?

Whitewater? In which Ken Starr spent years and millions to find the Clintons did nothing illegal whatsoever?

i dunno cue dr morbz or some other paultard to call me a cynical gabbneb for this but in a general election its a good resource to have a candidate who can find some nitpicky shit about their opponent and blow it up into a character issue

obama really started it with that last-second dig about her working as a "corporate lawyer" while he was working chicago or whatever.. the way he just tacked it on felt cheap and the crowd was baying for a response and then it was kinda howyousay, ON

Anderson Cooper looks so confused

none of this stuff is explosive - "it's all in the game"

obama really started it with that last-second dig about her working as a "corporate lawyer" while he was working chicago or whatever..

not everyone has the luxury of working at some public-interest gig immediately after law school, mr. obama. not even The King of All Trial Lawyers john edwards.

if either hillary or edwards responded to obama in that fashion, they would not only have my vote but also a contribution. for real.

really as much as i like seeing pols called out for their bullshit this whole thing was just ugly & counterproductive

Obama's comment about Reagan is not hard to follow, but tons of people really want to misunderstand it.

My criticism of Obama's Reagan comment is that he underestimated the capacity of the base to be deliberately obtuse.

to be honest ive become deeply suspicious of anyone with a serious antipathy towards obama or clinton

i think obama knew what he was doing with the reagan comment

possibly the closest he's come to a sister souljah moment

deej has word not come in there wherever you live that "whitewater" ended up amounting to a big fat zero?

-- Tracer Hand, Monday, January 21, 2008 9:30 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

looking forward to seeing how that whole rezko thing works out too dude

in case you werent getting the fucking message that its what i was drawing a parallel to

not everyone has the luxury of working at some public-interest gig immediately after law school, mr. obama

wtf does this mean

http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doggie.gif

you'd think a clinton fanatic like daria would be above buying into dishonest smear campaigns

im kinda coming to terms with a lot of my hillary dislike being... maybe not sexism outright, but something equally superficial

you mean like the superficial shit that brought down algore and john french kerry?

not everyone has the luxury of working at some public-interest gig immediately after law school, mr. obama. not even The King of All Trial Lawyers john edwards.

which has absolutely zero to do with hillary rodham clinton

i dont understand what he means by 'luxury.'

he took a 15k/yr job as an organizer because he wanted to ... what does luxury have to do w/ it

in case y'all aren't sure who 'won' - http://thepage.time.com/2008/01/21/game-on-12/

o_O if he was talking about content i would agree, but thats not what a debate is about

obama really started it with that last-second dig about her working as a "corporate lawyer" while he was working chicago or whatever.. the way he just tacked it on felt cheap and the crowd was baying for a response and then it was kinda howyousay, ON

right, hillary didn't "start it" when bob johnson talked about what obama 'was doing in the community' when hil was fighting for all her best black friends

The hell are you saying, gabbneb? I know there's that old line about people saying oh, I have one black friend, that's hilarious on the Daily Show and all, but Hillary and Bill are not those people.

Since I figure that any of these three (lolEdwards) will be ineffective, the thought of Pres. Hillary doesn't bother me.

I just don't think Clinton is very electable. Her negatives are enormous, as they've always been. It's not just that she won't appeal to certain people, or won't bring in independents, or doesn't toe the line enough to thrill progressives - there's so much active dislike of Clinton that people will turn out to vote against her.

I hope everyone knows that John McCain is stoked. The spin in this thread is getting out of control. Anyone who sees that any of the three candidates did anything remotely positive tonight is delusional.

‘when hil was fighting for all her best black friends’

Joke?

er, none of them will be effective, I mean.

I was worried more about McCain until I actually heard his SC victory speech and reacted like, holy shit, he is really old, sounds really old, and looks like the evil Emperor guy from Star Wars, plus the GOP base doesn't like him

i don't think the GOP base likes any one of their choices except either huckabee or paul (whether they admit it or not), but neither is going to win.

guys, we don't have to worry if McCain becomes the nominee because the GOP base doesn't like him. that's why they made him the nominee. no, wait...

also, independents just hate the guy.

wtf tad huck & paul are the two candidates most likely to get trashed by the GOP base

I’d love to hear who the Republican base currently consists of.

To some folks on this thread, would it be possible to argue a point in a straightforward manner without making me spend time guessing whether or not you're being sarcastic? Thanks.

wtf tad huck & paul are the two candidates most likely to get trashed by the GOP base

you may be right ... i probably pay too much mind to the GOP lunatic fringe to see some things clear.

I’d love to hear who the Republican base currently consists of.

-- Mr. Goodman, Monday, January 21, 2008 11:06 PM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/santorumdotjpg/SANTORUM1.jpg

I kind of see what Eisbaer's saying... Guiliani's stance on core Rep. 'values' is way off, Romney's a cipher...

the people who like Huck & Paul REALLY like them. ('course their haters are rather outspoken as well...)

Snorg Girl is no Republican

To some folks on this thread, would it be possible to argue a point in a straightforward manner without making me spend time guessing whether or not you're being sarcastic? Thanks.

Would it also be possible for some in this thread to restrain from the obvious and increasingly inappropriate sports or war analogies?

No?

OK.

I do not think Bert is a log cabin republican.

OTOH, i could DEFINITELY see marissa marchant being totally into ron paul.

Momus too

the people who like Huck & Paul

who were outnumbered 2:1 in SC by the people who like McCain/Romney/Rudy/Thompson

well damn.

Better known to Facebook and MySpace users as “Alice the Snorg Girl,” the 19-year-old Mariettan has been an Internet sensation since she first agreed three years ago to be a model for a T-shirt company launched by her brother’s friends. Now a sophomore at Auburn, she’s gotten used to being recognized wherever she goes.

Often, Alice gets that “You look familiar” look from fellow students who can’t seem to place her. “Some days, I’ll wear a T-shirt and people will say, ‘Oh, that’s why I know you.’”

Alice’s claim to fame is her wide-eyed, open-mouthed expressions of dorky joy. “People always ask me why I’m so happy in my photos and it’s because [company co-owner] Bryan is always dancing and making me laugh. I’m very easily entertained.”

“The worst thing about being recognized is when I’m in a bar and the bartender says, ‘Hey, aren’t you the Snorg girl?’ and I realize he knows I’m underage.”

Modeling has made Alice semifamous but not rich, because she gets paid in T-shirts. But she has gotten other offers. “I’ve gotten messages from so and so agency saying they’d like me to model. But then when I Google the company name, nothing comes up. That’s kind of creepy.”

Although she’s not sure what career to pursue, Alice knows she wants to travel around the world. She’s already got plenty of friends out there. “I was looking myself up on the Internet the other day and found out I have a fan club in Australia. That’s pretty cool!”

While she describes herself as mostly outdoorsy and athletic, Alice is also becoming politically involved this election year. “I’m finally old enough to vote this year, and I know how important it is for this country to have a change, so I’m organizing and blogging and trying to tell all my friends about Ron Paul.”

The Alice you see in her online photos is basically what you get in real life. “I’m really nerdy and weird, and I don’t mind making fun of myself. The reason I probably appeal to some people is they think, ‘She looks goofy; I bet she’s fun.’”

They pay her in T-shirts? Not money? WTF! That's like the guy who invented the mcnugget

omg CNN playing clip of Bill on Arsenio Hall! I remember seeing that in middle school, I watched Arsenio just about every night

If you're dumb enough to get paid in t-shirts, you just might be a Ron Paul supporter. xp