I've just seen "Breakfast at Tiffany's" for the first time

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she'd be a m4rie call0way type right?

balls, Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I went to Tiffany's (NY)

Was in the lift. Was gonna ask lift dude if they get many people asking for the cafe/restaurant.

(bottled)

Mark G, Monday, 2 April 2012 06:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Love this--via Sullivan, art from people (by Craig Alan, who I take it is not unknown, though he is to me):

clemenza, Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink


(from his kindergarten years)

Cheggers Plays Populous (snoball), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you think that's big, then you should see the size of his parent's refrigerator.

Cheggers Plays Populous (snoball), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

watched cat clip, maaaaan I'd heard about Golightly as the ur-MPDG but damn

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had to look up MPDG, but here's a list with Tiffany's at #11:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/wild-things-16-films-featuring-manic-pixie-dream-g,2407/

Never really had any interest in I Love You, Alice B. Toklas, now I do.

clemenza, Saturday, 21 April 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hepburn's got the MPDG thing goin' on as far back as Sabrina.

Raymond Dubious Davies (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 April 2012 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

'Moon River' is a depressing song.

Cheggers Plays Populous (snoball), Sunday, 22 April 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do not agree

FP Sorrow (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 April 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well I can just about stand it when Audrey Hepburn sings it, as it's an insight into Holly's always running attitude. But the string and choir heavy version that plays over the final scene is terrible.

Cheggers Plays Populous (snoball), Sunday, 22 April 2012 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some other versions I've heard are cool

FP Sorrow (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 April 2012 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Moon River" is easily the best thing abt the BTF film

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 April 2012 02:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

youtube clip of Nelson from the Simpsons, teary-eyed, watching Andy Williams' do an encore of Moon River in Branson, MO while en route to Tennessee with Bart and Milhouse in a rental car to thread!

Aimless, Monday, 23 April 2012 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Richard Brody vs Glenn Kenny on the casting of Hepburn.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Interesting comment in there by, surprise, David E:

Carol Matthau (a woman who REALLY knew where all the bodies were buried) said Holly was a mash-up betwen her and truman himself. She was right.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love that line from (i think) wilson's onegin review, but it's how i feel about literally all of my friends. doesn't everyone?

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nabokov is always called the "winner" in their spat – why, because he was a better "stylist" and dickhead than Bunny?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

well at least he spoke russian.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

is there a word for "courtesy" in Russian

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Never really did get into this movie much. Even the cat edit is sort of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

"poshlust" xp

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i hated this movie when i saw it but i was like 15.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kenny's right inasmuch as Hepburn makes the transformation from po' white trash to Manhattan socialite credible but I've a problem generally with how Hepburn looks encouraged by Edwards to act more sophisticated and daaahling than she is. It's a cloying performance.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't think Hepburn ever needed any extra coaxing to act sophisticated and daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahling.

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

(That's what undoes her otherwise good Wait Until Dark performance.)

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Holly is 19 in the book, which is why Capote said circa 1980 that Jodie Foster would be great.

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

What mostly undoes her WUD work is how she's encouraged to act stupider than she is.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

And blinder.

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

why couldn't Efrem Zimbalist Jr. have a fridge fall on him

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Still, better Henri Mancini music than B@T's.

old people are made of poop (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

On a very highbrow note, the Seinfeld episode where George cheats on his book club was on yesterday. "So--are we still talking, or are we watching the movie?"

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i am reminded of robert crumb's angry letter to ivan brunetti in schizo: 'i HATE audrey hepburn and all her ilk!!!'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it's mentioned that Holly or "Lula" was 14 when she got married - that implies that she might have been running away from a genuinely awful situation and not just some kindly old dolt who she doesn't love.
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In the book, Doc says that Holly and her brother were orphaned and fending for themselves when he took them in, and Holly claims her sexual history before she married Doc (at age 14) "doesn't count," so yes, Holly was coming from a very rough background.

Officially I don't believe in the concept of the "guilty pleasure." But the BoT film is such a glossy-gorgeous shell around such a grotty story, that I hate to see it held up as a fashion or lifestyle icon.

i like slash and i vote (j.lu), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

nah -- I wish more women used cigarette holders and named their cats Cat.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't forget about her earplug/rings!

(✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's a heartwarming story of manipulative urban whores with some touching old-style racism for leavening. Cat was hot tho, despite being left out in the rain.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

did y'all know that this film was originally john frankenheimer and george axelrod's baby? then the studio hired audrey hepburn and she wanted frankenheimer off the project.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think f. maybe wanted kim stanley to star.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda wish we'd all stop talking about the "racism"

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Mickey Rooney character is egregious!

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Patricia Neal is kind of lovely in this, though.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

misread that as Patrice O'Neal at first and lol

a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno. The film is fraught in more interesting ways than Mickey Rooney's textbook caricature..

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Holly is definitely more louche in the novella - it kind of reminds me of whom Cole Porter wished to play him in a film bio ('Night and Day'); Cary Grant.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

but Cary Grant COULD have played him a better film! I mean, Cary Grant is the distillation of every Cole Porter song character.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was a hit too

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like my demi-mondaines a little real and cruffy around the edges or I like them like Zola's Nana, entirely too OTT.

Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i reread the novella a couple years ago and was amazed how dislikeable holly was! which of course is the point -- in real life, ppl like holly are impossible to be friends with.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink


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