[ pedant ]"Nowhere Man" = 1965 [ / pedant]
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 30 March 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link
Why list those Beatles singles and not "Strawberry Fields Forever"? "Eleanor Rigby"?
I know this isn't a very challenging opinion but much of what the Beatles did in this period is some of my favourite music ever made (even more so if we throw in 1965). I'm surprised to see several people claiming that the Bee Gees and Monkees equalled or surpassed them.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 30 March 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
(The clips posted here are not swaying me so far.)
(Bee OK: Don't forget Magical Mystery Tour!)
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 30 March 2012 08:00 (eleven years ago) link
they don't fit b/c their sound was notably different.
I suppose early Boyce and Hart Monkees was Beatles-like to some extent, but not sure that it was much more so than a lot of other groups were. The comparison was more resonant with them because it was a situation of four guys singing different style songs.
Bee Gees 1st has some kind of notable Beatles influence too, I suppose, though I don't know how easy it is to pinpoint. By the time of Odessa, I'm not sure that they sound any more like the Beatles than the Kinks did.
And then you have the fact that half of this period for the Beatles is '68-'69, while the comparison to the Monkees and the Bee Gees seems to involve their earlier music.
― timellison, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
I've only heard three of these Monkees albums (HQ, Pisces and Head) and one of the Bee Gees' (Odessa) so maybe I'm missing something but for me The Beatles win out over just about anybody I can think of from this era.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
I mean The Kinks are a great band but I relistened to Face to Face and Something Else recently and they didn't hold up as well as I'd remembered. Arthur, on the other hand, is undeniable.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
in defense of the Bee Gees:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PLeNdfkoBI
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
agree with this ... "Please Read Me" off of 1st is probably the most overtly Beatle-y thing on the record
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RUjnqH3kMw
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFnvk8x0-f8
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
and omg this song, so gorgeous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-6kKCX2q1I
Barry's song about his dog >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul's song about his dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sjSRfY8o2s
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
But this is even better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCuOsB9L_qo
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
and really, how CAN you tell is humans are real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tn7kfNnB8g
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
IF lol
65-67 may have been an even better era for The Beatles than 66-69. But even though I am no fan of the white album, 66-69 still features their best two years, plus "Abbey Road". There was just nobody who was better than Beatles in this period overall. Including Bee Gees and Monkees and everybody else.
That said, the debut by Bee Gees was a fantastic album that they would never match later. Up with the best of this era. Which speaks volumes considering this era was unusually great.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, f the White Album. What a piece of crap.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
It wasn't crap in any way, but.... it wasn't The Beatles. It didn't sound like The Beatles. And I think it is rather typical that people who don't really like The Beatles tend to see the white one as their favourite Beatles album. I don't dislike it in anyway, it is a great album with lots of great tracks. But it still isn't as glorious as anything else by The Beatles had used to be before. And more than half of the tracks sound like anything but The Beatles.
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
geir just go take some meds and take a walk.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
honestly my worst fear when starting this thread was wondering when geirbot was going to show up.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
it wouldn't be a beatles conversation without him
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
A more attractively perverse route would be to poll 1970-1975 Bee Gees (pre-Main Course) vs. Monkees solo (really Nesmith) vs. Beatles solo (would win there too but still, tons of caca).
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
that would be tough... think the Beatles would win it tho. As much as I love Trafalgar and Mr. Natural, nothing in that period matches the heights of All Things Must Pass. Or Imagine. Probably better than Ram tho.
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
> That said, the debut by Bee Gees was a fantastic album that they would never match later. Up with the best of this era. Which speaks volumes considering this era was unusually great.
> ― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Friday, March 30, 2012 12:36 PM
Bee Gees' 1st (which is what i think you're referring to) actually their third album. The Bee Gees Sing and Play 14 Barry Gibb Songs from 1965 is their first.
― everything else is secondary (Lee626), Saturday, 31 March 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
btw guys i was kidding upthread this isn't really hard at all unless you are a weird eccentric monkees or bee gees stan because seriously Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, Magical Mystery Tour, White Album, abbey Road gtfo
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i'm glad the internet has made it possible to connect with others who share your fetish but for real
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
(Bee OK: Don't forget Magical Mystery Tour!)― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, March 30, 2012 1:00 AM
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, March 30, 2012 1:00 AM
i did forget as i only thought about albums, than add that and it really is "gtfo"
― Bee OK, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:18 (eleven years ago) link
wtf am I even talking about, it's totally Beatles no matter how much I love the Monkees AND the Bee Gees.
who am I kidding
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:20 (eleven years ago) link
not sure why it would be so hard to believe some people really don't dig the beatles that much but w/e
― buzza, Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:46 (eleven years ago) link
illogical
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link
i have no idea how to answer this question myself. i guess i probably pull out those bee gees LPs more often than the beatles ones, for whatever reason.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 31 March 2012 07:20 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I was wondering whether some of the early posts were sarcastic.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
Monkees = good
Bee Gees = nails down blackboard 50% of this period (which is better than other periods)
Beatles = DNA
Therefore voted Monkees. Fuck a DNA.
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
66-69 probably the second best Bee Gees period after SNF, at least in terms of quality of songs. Still hit and miss though. A far 3rd place.In a way The Monkees covered more ground in this period than even The Beatles, while still retaining a lot of their more pop origins. A close 2nd though, as The Beatles have more of an experimental edge.
― beanz meanz lulz (snoball), Saturday, 31 March 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
if this was not a period-specific poll I wouldn't hesitate to vote for the Beatles, but 1968 was not really a good year for them, in a way it was their weakest period
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
kinda difficult to choose between the bee gees and the beatles, but the latter have to take my vote (i mean, rubber soul to white album it's nearly(?) flawless). don't care that much about the monkees, tbh.
― rusty_allen, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
Take out 66 and The Beatles might not win. Include Paperback Writer (and RAIN) and Revolver, and they fucking walk it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Compared to Bee Gees and Monkees, The Kinks or The Move would be much closer to The Beatles during this period (but no cigar....)
― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
I've been a music fan long enough, been on ilx long enough, lived long enough to like all these songs by all these artists and to know that there are plenty of sane people who don't seem to like The Beatles that much- I even remember an otm nabisco post explaining why this is so- but this feels like some kind of trap or puzzle I must solve to escape to safety so I will make like Bruce Lee or Orson Welles, smash the mirrors, heed the challops and vote for The Beatles.
― Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 31 March 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
this feels like some kind of trap or puzzle I must solve to escape to safety
Yeah. Good post!
― timellison, Saturday, 31 March 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
Sure, not eveeyone likes The Beatles, but those who don't should be more likely to rep for Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix, Zappa, Captain Beefheart, Otis Redding, Aretha Frankkin or James Brown than Bee Gees and Monkees.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 1 April 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's right, you tell us what we like, Geir, we wouldn't know otherwise
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3Ili2VvtvU
― Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
Thought about the discussion on this thread whilst driving my car listening to the radio and considered making one of those Let Me Show You My Diverse Tastes Which Actually Turn Out To Be Nearby Points On A Straight Line Introduce Yourself! style posts- "I like The Beatles AND John Coltrane, The Velvet Underground AND James Brown!" As I genre-hopped my way through the XM dial it occurred to me that it must be nice to pick one artist to like and then stick to your guns, plugging your ears to the siren song of keeping up with all the Crate Digger Jones out there.
― Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:03 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
so I'm the only guy who really kinda hates all those Bee Gees songs?
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
Probably, but it's no wonder since they were all written by Paul Simon and sung by John Fogerty
― Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry that was cold
― Singularities Going Steady (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 April 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
lol at your display name Geir :D
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Geir is nothing if not self aware.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 8 April 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
In the top two of sly Scandinavian Internet personae
― MIke Love Battery (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 April 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, April 8, 2012 3:32 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
unfortunately he is also nothing if not monotonous and infuriating.
anyway, this wasn't much of a contest, huh? oh well.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link