Can anyone recommend me good bass-drums-sax trio records other than Sonny Rollins at the Village Vanguard, Joshua Redman Back East or Kenny Garrett records? I really like this format.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm a huge fan of ben perowsky's first record ("ben perowsky trio"), a live record with chris speed and scott colley. it looks like it might be out of print and not released digitally, unfortunately.
looks like joshua redman did a record a few years ago with different bass/drums trios, i'm kind of curious to hear that.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is the perowsky record. i know i still have the cd, should really dig it up and rip it.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not on spotify unfortunately. I guess I'm looking for stuff that has that propulsive, endless search kind of improvisation on the tenor -- like coltrane but not actually sounding like coltrane.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Just found this. It's on Spotify. It's good.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Donald Harrison/Ron Carter/Billy Cobham - Heroes
This doesn't have that "propulsive endless" quality - Harrison tends to be a bit more thoughtful and restrained. But there is some nice interplay here with Carter's bass.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
srsly this Fly record is fucking dope. Ballard and Grenadier are insane, and Mark Turner is definitely a guy I want to check out more.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
today i got lucky and found a new copy of this long deleted cd in the racks :
You lucky mother. I actually found an original vinyl copy of the Lonnie Smith but it was so beat I had to pass it up (they wanted $12).
― Mongo Beefhead Tribesman (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's called Compass, and it's actually more than a trio record - he does play with two different rhythm sections, but he also combines them so on a track or two he's playing with two bassists and a drummer, and on other tracks he's got all four guys (two basses, two drummers) behind him. And his playing is really excellent throughout - it's my favorite of his albums.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 29 March 2012 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh yeah, i remember seeing some youtube rehearsal footage of the double rhythm section.
Mark Turner is definitely a guy I want to check out more.
i really love his 'dharma days' record, with kurt rosenwinkel, reid anderson, and nasheet waits. really beautiful & restrained without being at all boring.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuck, that sounds good mostly but I never enjoy kurt rosenwinkel. I just can't take his sound.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
how so?
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
hard to explain exactly. It's some combination of his tone and use of effects -- he gets this kind of sustain overhang on every note that I find grating, and sometimes he uses this light distortion that I don't like. But I'm super picky about jazz guitarists. There are like three that I actually like and maybe twenty I find listenable. But he always sticks out to me as someone whose sound ruins a record for me.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i can see that, although i feel like his sound circa '01 (dharma days, the next step) was a little drier? but maybe not, his first record with the brian blade fellowship was even earlier than that.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I should probably check out the BB Fellowship record. Brian Blade could accompany a fourth-grade recorder ensemble and I'd enjoy it.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh man, the three BBF records are my most-listened to 'modern' (i.e. in my lifetime) jazz albums, without a doubt. and their last one (Season of Changes, '08) might be my favorite one.
would love to hear BB accompany a bunch of fourth-graders btw. maybe not recorders, but auto-harp + choir + spoons, for sure.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
btw a kind of post-boppy kurt rosenwinkel tune came up on my spotify radio a few minutes ago and I kind of liked it. His solos are good but he does this thing where he really tries to slur and smooth out his phrasing. It sounds very flat to me. A lot of guitarists do this though.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
So I found out the name of the drummer who plays on the L platform at Union Square:
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
there's a new steve lehman album, anyone heard it?
― j., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 03:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
No.
Came here to say that the tune gods seem to have decided that every time I turned around this past week I was going to hear a different version of "Isfahan."
― i just believe in memes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's a sign. that you should go. to isfahan.
― j., Tuesday, 17 April 2012 13:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've heard the Lehman album. It's my favorite thing I've heard by him yet. Reviewed it (along with some other stuff) here.
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I will second the quality and awesomeness of the Lehman album. Also refusing to front on the Esperanza Spalding record -- some people around here hate jazz vocals (PF) but I don't, and I think Radio Music Society is overall more experimental and bold than, say, the Robert Glasper record. *chorus of boos rains down upon me but I do not care*
― @GracieLoPan #fyi (Display Name (this cannot be changed):), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haven't heard the Spalding or the Glasper.
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
In honor of International Jazz Day, here's a list of 50 Jazz Albums Unlikely To Make Other Lists Of 50 Jazz Albums You Will Read On International Jazz Day.
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 30 April 2012 11:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'd quibble with whether a few of those would really be unlikely to show up on other lists (Clifford Brown & Max Roach, Inner Urge, Nefertiti all seem pretty canon) but it's a good list.
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Recent jazz albums I've been enjoying:
Charles Gayle - StreetsPeter Brotzmann/John Edwards/Steve Noble - The Worse The BetterNeneh Cherry & The Thing - Cherry Thing.
Really looking forward to the new Darius Jones too. Last year's Big Gurl Smell My Dream (what a ridiculous title) is a favourite.
Also caught a fantastic duo show by Ken Vandermark and Paal Nilssen Love in Glasgow recently. It's not too often we get this sort of thing here.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
the Robert Glasper record
i dunno, just sounded boring to me.
the lehman is indeed tight.
― j., Monday, 30 April 2012 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Irvin Mayfield big band New Orleans Jazz Orchestra was oh so powerful and warm and wonderful at Jazzfest in New Orleans. Softie me also loved when Kermit Ruffins came onstage, with a newsboys cap over his doo-rag, plaid preppie shorts, and a cup of somethin' in hand, and he sang a standard (Sinatra & others) about having the world on a string and being in love. He and Mayfield then teased one another about who the best trumpet players in New Orleans are. Creole Clarinet player Evan Christopher sat in as well and was impressive also. He did a set with his own band as well. I also saw a bunch of brass bands, both funky and traditional.
http://www.nola.com/jazzfest/index.ssf/2012/04/evan_christopher_unveils_a_cla.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Shannon Powell was one of the 2 drummers up there with Mayfield and the way he maneuvered the sticks was a sight.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
nice outside/inside record (cool mix of free playing, singing, composed melodies, etc): http://sonsofdaughters.bandcamp.com/
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 11 May 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Robert Glasper's trio is actually kind of more experimental than people give it credit for I think, but I think his basket of influences kind of caters to a niche that is not quite ILM?
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
heh, care to elaborate?
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean I think he comes at things from a very groove/funk/neo-soul/dillaesque hip-hop sort of direction but does very interesting and original things within that, I guess? Whereas ILM likes its jazz more with inflections of 60s free playing and euro improv? Like you're not going to hear much "out" harmony in Glasper, and if you have it on in the background it's going to sometimes sound very smoothed out, but it's not by the numbers at all. Maybe that's just Chris Dave's playing that makes it so, IDK.
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean that makes it feel fresh and not by the numbers.
i totally agree with that, but i don't think that the fresh/interesting things that they excel at are super evident on this record.
Maybe that's just Chris Dave's playing that makes it so, IDK.
ethan iverson wrote something about going to see the glasper trio with a different drummer recently and said something like "i thought the whole point was to have chris dave there?"
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh yeah haven't actually checked out the new one.
― Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
i was just made aware of badbadnotgood. eh.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
awesome rock + avant-jazz sax trio record that a friend released today: http://tonybarba.bandcamp.com/
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
seriously check it out
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Another good bass-drums-sax trio I found -- Michael Blake/Ben Allison/Jeff Ballard -- Right Before Your Ears
― this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just heard something on the radio from the new Elio Villafranca/Arturo Stable album that took me by surprise (which is to say I was enjoying it and didn't realize it was Villafranca until the DJ announced it). Now I'm listening to the whole thing on Spotify. I've really wanted to like an Elio Villafranca album for a while, because he's kind of amazing to watch perform and he seems like a good guy, but I haven't been into what he's done. This, however, might do it for me. I don't know who Arturo Stable is but I get the sense he might be pushing Villafranca to be riskier with his approach to rhythm or something. I don't know. This appears to just be piano and percussion, so far anyway.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 04:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
Seen both those guys. Yeah, somebody I know is friends with Stable and told me something to the effect that he sometimes will go against the clave a little bit and do something you wouldn't expect.
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 May 2012 11:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 20 May 2012 15:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
Elio is playing with a singer in my neighborhood tonight.
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 May 2012 16:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
There now. This is some kind of Diamanda Galas/Yma Sumac stuff. Kinda cool
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 May 2012 01:56 (11 months ago) Permalink
More explanation please. Who is performing Diamada/Yma Sumac type stuff?
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 25 May 2012 02:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
http://www.giancarlatisera.com/, at least to my ears. With Elio V on piano.
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 May 2012 02:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
Cathy Berberian maybe? Maybe none of the above.
― Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 May 2012 02:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
Elio did not list the gig on his website. I guess it was just for those in your hood.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 25 May 2012 18:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
Today's mailbag included the new Branford Marsalis disc, Four MFs Playin' Tunes. He's got an interesting quote in the press release - "What we are trying to do is figure out the emotional purpose of each song we play and then play according to that purpose, as opposed to musicians who spend their time developing what they call a concept."
Also got a reissue (first time on CD!) of a 1972 Don Cherry double album, Organic Music, recorded in Sweden with a bunch of local musicians, an orchestra, and Nana Vasconselos on one track.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
C'mon Pi put out MP3s of the new Threadgill already
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 16:24 (11 months ago) Permalink
Dr. Lonnie Smith celebrating 70th birthday next month at the Jazz Standard. Think I would like to see the "In the Beginning" octet.
― If There's a POLL Below, We're All Going to Vote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 June 2012 12:36 (11 months ago) Permalink
Didn't find new Threadgill mp3's on that page, nor on the "audio" page?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
Speaking of Threadgill, I think Stomu T is playing next week around the corner from my house.
― If There's a POLL Below, We're All Going to Vote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 June 2012 19:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
I'm not sure what the deal was with MP3s so I went ahead and ordered the CD from a place near me .... surprised by the delay
― Brakhage, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
i'm pretty curious about that new branford album
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 18 June 2012 16:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
xpost to myself
er delay in releasing MP3s, that is
― Brakhage, Monday, 18 June 2012 16:40 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's good stuff. I wish it didn't have any tracks where he plays soprano sax (the instrument I hate most in the world), but whaddya gonna do. And the drummer kicks unbelievable amounts of ass. I believe it hits stores first week of August.
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 18 June 2012 17:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
cool, will check for it.
long-time chicago dude matt ulery recently put this out on dave douglas' label, sounds nice:
http://www.greenleafmusic.com/byalittlelight
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 18 June 2012 20:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
new Threadgill streaming at NPR. Quite good on first listen.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
Sweet, thanks for heads up
― Brakhage, Monday, 18 June 2012 23:35 (11 months ago) Permalink
Newport mostly live on NPR, today and tomorrow, some will be posted later. DeJohnette's usual group at 12:40, later w All Stars, incl Jason Moran. Frisell plays a couple of times today also, w Bad Plus, later songs of Lennon. NPR always posts these schedules from bottom up. Usually works better to mute the video, use audio-only as soundtrack to the video, or just use athudio-only w vid blank. Link for all (though they've got thumbnails on today's performers elsewhere) http://www.npr.org/event/music/156120628/newport-jazz-festival-2012
― dow, Saturday, 4 August 2012 15:44 (9 months ago) Permalink
Really liking Bill McHenry's new one, La Peur du Vide. Since Paul Motian died, he had to form a new band, so now he's working with pianist Orrin Evans, bassist Eric Revis, and drummer Andrew Cyrille - a much more aggressive group than guitarist Ben Monder, bassist Reid Anderson and Motian, with whom he made three albums. This one was recorded live at the Village Vanguard back in March, and they're playing there this weekend to celebrate its release. Uptempo, hard-swinging stuff, a million miles from the murmur-and-rattle thing he was doing with Motian. I like it a lot - it might make my year-end list, in fact.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 27 October 2012 17:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
so someone posted the cover to the Greg Foat Group's "Girl And Robot With Flowers" on the noteworthy album covers thread, and I was intrigued enough to give it a listen.
i *love* it.
i'm definitely a jazz neophyte, so i'm wondering:
1) what any of you "rolling jazz" folks think of it, if you've heard it and
2) what other artists you might recommend i seek out if i totally dig the vintage/mid-fi and mellow/spacey qualities of this GFG album.
― alpine static, Friday, 7 December 2012 08:38 (5 months ago) Permalink
Dunno if I'd call it 'jazz' really - library music? Still nice though.
I'm hearing David Axelrod in there, early Jan Hammer Group, Sensations Fix, Luke Vibert's library music comps, Cinematic Orchestra
― Brakhage, Friday, 7 December 2012 23:41 (5 months ago) Permalink
OK, I am officially convinced that Criss Cross Jazz (which has no publicity budget, and I'm told may be fucking its artists out of royalties) is the underrated label of the year. I've heard four of their 2012 releases this week - Dayna Stephens' Today is Tomorrow, Clarence Penn's Dali in Cobble Hill, Conrad Herwig's A Voice Through the Door, and now Yosvany Terry's Today's Opinion - and they're uniformly awesome. The first three are hardcore post-bop with ferocious swing, and occasional interjections of funk and groove, and terrific clean/basic production, and the fourth is the best Latin jazz album I've heard in forever. Latin jazz normally does almost nothing for me, but this shit is red-hot and perfectly blends the two approaches. And aside from seeing Terry's album on one of the New York Times critics' year-end lists, I've heard exactly nothing about any of these records from jazz writers (again, because no publicist).
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 13 December 2012 03:17 (5 months ago) Permalink
i used to be way into Criss Cross, they've been doing exactly these types of records for years and years. favorite CC records off the top of my head:
billy drummond, dubaiclarence penn, penn's landingralph peterson, the art of warmelvin rhyne, mel's spellconrad herwig & brian lynch, que viva coltraneherlin riley, cream of the crescent
some of my favorite records ever, they're heroes over there.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 13 December 2012 03:48 (5 months ago) Permalink
and I'm told may be fucking its artists out of royalties
oh, that's too bad if true.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 13 December 2012 03:49 (5 months ago) Permalink
Well, what I was specifically told is that they don't pay royalties. Which may just mean that they offer artists a flat fee up front to make the albums, knowing that they're not gonna sell more than a few hundred copies.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 13 December 2012 03:56 (5 months ago) Permalink
This seems like the best place to post this...
Anyone heard Lucien Dubuis Trio & Marc Ribot's Ultime Cosmos?
I found it in the jazz section, and it does have more or less jazz instrumentation, but it sounds more like balls-out rocknroll (with lots of crazy bari sax) than jazz. Everyone I've played it for has been blown away. My friend who's a jazz trumpeter (and who has played with a lot of punk bands) said "this is exactly what I always wished punk rock sounded like". Which were pretty much my thoughts exactly.
― FunkyTonk, Thursday, 13 December 2012 05:23 (5 months ago) Permalink
Sounds interesting. I haven't heard it, but I usually like Marc Ribot in a jazz context.
― o. nate, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:27 (5 months ago) Permalink
this doesn't seem like the worst thing in the old-world model, since there's not much profit in most jazz records anyway, and they're fronting the studio time + manufacturing costs etc (and i think they gave the artists some portion of the discs to sell on their own? at least i've seen them being sold at gigs). and i appreciate that they're giving some jazz musicians a chance to document their work every year or couple of years, '50s blue note style. however, i wonder how it works with digital rights & sales now.
i love that they have the exact same website that they did when i was in college.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:38 (5 months ago) Permalink
Somehow this made the shooting tragedy hit home with me much more
http://www.spinner.com/2012/12/15/jazz-saxophonist-jimmy-greene-mourns-daughter-school-shooting/
fuck
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Sunday, 16 December 2012 03:08 (5 months ago) Permalink
weirdly, I think but am not positive that I played with Jimmy Greene once when he first came to New York. I have a memory of an early gig I did through school where Larry Ridley put me and some older students together in an ensemble to play at the Schomberg Center in Harlem and there was also a dude not from our school who was supposedly just starting to get known in NYC. I remember the name being Jimmy Greene. This would have been 97 or 98, which makes sense since that's around when Jimmy Greene apparently started to gig a lot in NYC. I remember saying something about how there was so much I could hear that I couldn't play yet, and he kind of laughed and said "yeah, well, that's everybody." I was like 17 or 18 at the time. Anyway. Fuck.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Sunday, 16 December 2012 03:14 (5 months ago) Permalink
Just got Smalls email about this. Fact that I have and will cross paths with people who have played with the guy made it hit home for me as well, despite previous ability to compartmentalize.
― TS: shambala vs. sha la la, man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 00:06 (5 months ago) Permalink
I re-loaded Greene's last three albums into my iPod; I'd previously dropped them because I didn't like his work as much as some other current players (JD Allen, Stacy Dillard, Walter Smith III), but I'll give him another shot.
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:07 (5 months ago) Permalink
Has anyone heard Ten Freedom Summers?
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 December 2012 00:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wadada sent me a signed copy, but honestly, I only made it through the whole thing once. I mean, it's four CDs - something like five hours of music. I'll come back to it someday. I really like his playing.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 28 December 2012 00:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
From what I'm reading like quite a challenging work -- not only conceptually, but getting a chamber group to improvise is a major risk too.
Unless they have experience in doing so, which they appear to not have. In a "life's work" this is new.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 December 2012 20:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
Jeff Parker - Bright Light in Winter (restrained, but this seems to work well)Rob Mazurek Pulsar Quartet - Stellar Pulsations (it's the pianist that really shines here)Jenny Scheinman - Mischief & Mayhem (features both Nels Cline and Jim Black)Uri Caine Trio - Siren (ok, this is from 2011 but the rendition of 'Foolish Me' needs to be heard)John Zorn - Music and Its Double (at times sounds like a combination between 'modern composition' and 'impro')Nazoranai - s/t (Keiji Haino, Oren Ambarchi, Stephen O'Malley)Imikuzushi - Keiji Haino/Oren Ambarchi/Jim O'Rourke - best purchase of this year.
― EvR, Sunday, 30 December 2012 21:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
That Mazurek disc is one of the most straightforward, least experimental things he's ever done, but I like it.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 30 December 2012 21:39 (4 months ago) Permalink