The 4 Best Dramas Of The Last 25 Years

Huh, I was confusing "decoupage" with "decolletage."

VegGrrl has used both words in the last two days! No joke: Yesterday I saw her post about "decolletage" on the Mad Men thread and asked my wife what it meant. When I found out, I said, "Huh. Why did I think it had to do with interior decoration?" Then, this afternoon, I saw her post upthread and was like "Oh, that's why!"

I like french words starting with "de" I guess

or boobs + collage

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jeepers i love all these shows. impossible choice!!!

Can't believe it's taken someone this long to admit it.

thinking omar little should vote for the show that gave him his dn

yeah i loved little omar van zandt on the sopranos

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good results

I think I'm the only person on the planet that couldn't get into The Wire.

like...The Wire is exactly twice as good as Breaking Bad, 2.4 times as good as The Sopranos and 6 times better than Mad Men? yeah, that sounds right.

does The Wire improve significantly after season 1?

It gets better but if you don't dig season 1 I don't think it's for you. Kinda weird results, i guess the Sopranos' stock has fallen as The Wire's has risen. It certainly doesn't deserve to be behind Breaking Bad, much as i love that show

the wire is the best of the lot. but breaking bad is not better than the sopranos, end of story.

100 votes exactly. Nice.

when come back bring pie chart

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bastard-machine/breaking-bad-legacy-does-stand-639177

I believe that The Wire, The Sopranos, Mad Men and Breaking Bad are all first-ballot hall of fame entrants. And all four are in my top five.

Jaymc's film-critic friend, who is also a TV critic, tweeted after Breaking Bad ended, "Beautiful. Only two shows in the conversation for Best Drama ever. One ended tonight. (The other ended a bit more controversially.)"

Let's let this one marinate a bit.

I guess your friend really was let down by the ending of Lost, huh

xp The other is Baretta.

It's interesting how there's so much canonical conversation about TV shows at the same time that talking about novels or films that way has mostly gone away.

Smaller dataset worth considering that movies or novels.

Novels and films have been around too long to be grist for generational self-congratulation.

i.e. if there's anything up to The Singing Detective, The Prisoner or the Rockford Files, LMK

the idea that the 5 best television shows are all dramas from the last decade or so is ridiculous.

It's exactly like when ESPN throws up a prodigious sports feat chart for context "since 1990."

even though a lot of my favorite shows are comedies, i'm ok with these 'greatest shows of the last decade' convos centering purely around dramas, because otherwise it'd be 4 dramas + Arrested fucking Development

i.e. if there's anything up to The Singing Detective, The Prisoner or the Rockford Files, LMK

Singing Detective was crucial viewing in my family's house growing up. amazing show, needs more love

I have figured out I really only like comedies when they're full of horrible people

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the idea that the 5 best television shows are all dramas from the last decade or so is ridiculous.

Not to say it's necessarily true, but the argument holds some water. The medium has changed a lot in the last decade or so and it's still evolving.

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I'll confess that as a UK resident, it feels like ever since The Sopranos was imported, I've been opening newspapers and conversations and being hit WHOOSH by a mighty wind of people talking with high speed and volume about good tv that you've got to watch.

Now I think I do believe that something called a good television program exists. I think Dennis Potter had the intention of making them and so did a bunch of people in the BBC/pre-Murdoch era. I think British television post-Murdoch Shift cared a lot less about making them and in fact probably didnt have much in mind apart from making something that sold a lot and assumed you got sales via lowest common denominator.

As far as I know there never really was a Reithian idealism in American television and you know if American ppl felt like there wasn't any good TV and then some came along and they wanted to celebrate that, well, fair enough, and in as much as the good tv you've got to watch rhetoric comes from that, fair enough.

But I also think that talk is a blatant marketing gimmick at the same time, used to get people to subscribe to the services offered by a company called Home Box Office and also get them watching TV generally, and it kind of pisses me off watching ppl who generally can see through this kind of thing getting dragged along with it.

I don't five a flying fuck about this 'good tv'. The Sopranos, The Wire and Breaking Bad are three exciting, enjoyable and particularly well done crime thrillers (a grand tragic one, a brutal realism one and a crazy fucked up one) that I really like, on their own merits.

Mad Men, on the other hand, is so blatantly trying to work on you by pressing the 'good tv' button installed in your head by the Sops and the Wire. The plot is not interesting, the period references are stupid and clumsy, its designed with the aim of getting people to talk about this new Good TV Show. It isn't actually a very good period drama at all.

Seeing those four titles in a box at top of this thread is really depressing because it suggests that our general what a good television show might be is now circumscribed by this 'good tv' concept that blew up in the wake of the sopranos

Morbs otm about The Prisoner tho

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/10/simpsonized-characters/?cid=co13400554

The Prisoner is cool but a bit of a trifle? MacG is great, of course, and Portmeirion is fun to look at.

If you like people saying random numbers to you for a half hour I recommend bingo.

whatever the prisoner is, "trifle" is... not the right word

ok, if we're eliminating "trifles," I'm proud to announce that the greatest TV show of all time is

Fawlty Towers

that's probably about right