Beach House - Bloom

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squarepusher's new record:

WILL YOU PEOPLE STOP

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

lots of hooks on this record and the production is a bit too polished: i guess it might result in getting them closer to mainstream audience.
also, except for Myth, the second half of the record is better than the first.

nostormo, Saturday, 31 March 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

lebron traveled (am0n), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

This album is great great great. Love how relatively big the choruses and production are. Every song feels like an all-out attempt to top "Fade Into You" in the hearts and minds of the public. A couple of them out-M83 M83, too.

Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

I burned out on this quickly...

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Damn, that's my fear. I worry about how any album that's so instantly absorbing can hold up over the long haul (especially since much of the appeal of Teen Dream was how that album really, really took its time).

Either way, though, I'm loving the album now, so that's worth something

Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

the label had some shit luck with the release of this record. I don't even think it's out yet and it feels like everyone has had it for months.

UnderControl, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I burned out on this quickly...

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),"

me too, BUT i returned to it afterwards again. great record, for the most part.

nostormo, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

this plus 1/2 bottle of wine is like being shot up with morphine pretty much. wanna question quality of music, but the experience feels so good that i don't care.

a single goddamn marshmallow fucked me for LIFE (Hunt3r), Friday, 11 May 2012 04:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

ALBUM OF THE YEAR

Bee OK, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

so far...

Bee OK, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Better live than I expected -- the new material sounds great.

Brad C., Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

so this is really pretty

Mordy, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is pretty shameless:

http://pitchfork.com/news/46564-beach-house-ripped-off-by-british-car-ad/

Get wolves (DL), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've liked what i've heard of them on WFMU, but I burn out on albums before I hear them.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

^i've got sympathy for the musicians who were hired to do that ad. in my imagination the car company execs used the original as a reference and asked them to do something in a similar style, which they did in a non-plagiaristic way, then got asked for revisions because "can you make it sound more like the other song?" seen it happen with friends who do this kind of work.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

until they give kendra smith some $ they can stfu

mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

are beach house going to fall forever in the same category as spoon and the national by making lovely, critic friendly and appreciated records without ever changing style in any way?
it's all good and nice, but it just seems like no progression at all here (not always a be all and end all obvs).

nathey, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like them and this one is their best but I can't imagine getting excited about them; they're a really good minor band.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

VW ad track is better than "Take Care" imo.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ i've got sympathy for the musicians who were hired to do that ad.

Me, none. If you can't plagiarize gracefully, you should get out of the commercial music racket. It's possible that BH were contacted about a licence, but didn't wish to affiliate one of their more 'personal' songs with a car company. Now, the damage has been done regardless.

poxen, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

To my ears, this commercial "cover" doesn't sound any more like "Take Care" than fifty other proper originals released by blog hype bands. In fact, the VW track actually reminds me more of some subtle Arcade Fire stuff.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Or, even more than that, The Walkmen.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

VW ad track is better than "Take Care" imo.

Ouch.

MikoMcha, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bloom sounds like Teen Dream only on first listening.
actually,although it resemble it, it's poppier, and more polished.

nostormo, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

To my ears, this commercial "cover" doesn't sound any more like "Take Care" than fifty other proper originals released by blog hype bands.

If you're joking, then "lol, right", but otherwise "?" The VW song is a straight-up lift, there's nothing to distinguish it.

poxen, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

The melodies and instrumentation are largely dissimilar. Maybe the "vibe" is the same, but big deal. That vibe is all over the fucking place the last few years.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, there's a closer resemblance between "Ghostbusters" and "I Want a New Drug" than this VW song and "Take Care".

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's only just close enough to avoid litigation (& i'm sure VW did some research into that) to say it's superior is just challops.

jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

to say it's superior is just challops

A challop? Maybe. But an op all the same. (Seriously, if Hamilton Leithauser was singing instead of a nameless vocalist, it would be a great Walkmen song.)

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/news/46570-beach-house-respond-to-volkswagen-ad/

So I guess the ad agency DID make a play for the song, but were denied. Indie nerds are totally making a mountain out of a molehill, though.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

eh if they wanted the track and made a soundalike that was transparent enough for that many people to notice (i haven't compared) then it's fair game for people to cry foul

some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Basically, one person thought so and then Pitchfork carried the flag. I still say that if you put "Take Care" in a mix with a bunch of other songs that sound like it, you wouldn't be able to distinguish the VW ad's song from any of the others as "the replica".

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

the (male) vocalist is very closely copying Legrand's vocal style which is pretty unique sounding even amongst a slew of imitators. the song key lyrics is "i'll watch over you" in place of the almost exact point where Legrand sings "i'll take care of you." you may not like BH or care that they've been ripped off but you're being disingenuous here.

jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

No, I do like a fair amount of Beach House material, but I'm still not hearing enough similarity between these recordings for people's short to get all in a wad.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

every time i hear a BH song without actively knowing or thinking about who i'm listening to her voice scans as a male voice to me

some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

this kind of "ripping off" is totally fine, who cares. "that stoner rock band rips off black sabbath!"

am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

same here, i was kinda shocked when i first saw a video. i thought it was a female sounding dude rather than a woman who sounds like a dude who sounds like a woman.

jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

am0n, it's a whole different thing if an ad agency commission a soundalike track after a licensing refusal from a band.

Beach House's response is that they don't care about it too much either but i suspect that they're just being gracious.

jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

not illegal, totally fine. case closed

am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

its all on the up and up

am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

probably those kinds of deliberate soundalikes happen all the time but the case is usually more like this than something undeniably obviously like getting a guy to sing like Tom Waits

some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Its not illegal, but its a huge dick move.

"Can we use your song?"

"No."

"Fine, we'll just pay some schlubs to craft a subtlely different 'take' on it."

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

The only reason this is a big deal is because it was used in a tv ad. The same people complaining about this are the people who download Girl Talk albums the first day they're available and champion his straight up unlicensed use of dozens of copyrighted recordings.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

dog i don't even care about this but you're bending over backwards with some apples and orange ish

some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maybe. I just feel a bit righteous today is all. This is the fight I picked.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

ad execs are walking dick moves tho, what do you expect. in truth, i don't rly side one way or the other but i think its lolworthy that there's an indie wrecking crew band

am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

The only reason this is a big deal is because it was used in a tv ad. The same people complaining about this are the people who download Girl Talk albums the first day they're available and champion his straight up unlicensed use of dozens of copyrighted recordings.

this is insane

Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't understand why ppl who were okay with an artist using unlicensed samples to make his collage music are not okay with an advertising agency ripping off a band's song to help sell their merchandise. totally incomprehensible to me!

Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

you can't make a beach house video w/o breaking eggs

blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Getting paid pretty well would be in relation to how well the writers are getting paid. I imagine that the editors at least are getting regular (albeit minor) paychecks.

But look, I didn't even pose anything as a debate. I just think that this being "news" at all is ridiculous and ironic but was not even trying to implicate the band. As stated, I am sure that they have reasonable opinions on all of these things.

The video removes all context from the borrowed scenes, as the add does to the original song. We can hypothetically assume that the audience of the VW adds is less aware of what they are watching/hearing than the viewers of the Beach House video. The band, Pitchfork, and VW are all pushing brands, or at least actively trying to get your attention, and in that light I just see that much difference between the two. This stuff is inherently problematic. I am sure if my band was getting homaged that heavily I would be somewhat upset, but maybe not so much if we were actively borrowing visually from really popular movies in our videos that were then getting broadcast on a really popular website.

grandavis, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uhh, don't see that much difference is what I meant

grandavis, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wanna give my testimony here. if somebody wanted to move this thread to '77 after I do, I wouldn't complain, but no big. In I think 2008, during a really pretty horrible period for me personally, some people got in touch with me asking me to sing & play a tune they had already written for a tv ad. The campaign was greenlit, somebody was going to sing this tune anyway and there was about two payments on the car in it for me, small money but still money. They sent me their demo of the song, and then we had a phone conversation about what they wanted.

They never explicitly said it, but it was very, very clear, both from the song itself & from the way they described what they wanted, was a song that sounded exactly like an indie artist who was & is a friend of mine & who'd recently come into considerable success. The song in question was a clear & obvious bite on this songwriter's style. I was to basically imitate my friend for money. I didn't do this; I found out they'd asked, like, half my friends for similar takes. I don't know who the person was that they ended up hiring, but when the ad aired half a year later, the singer they'd gotten was straight-up imitating my bud. Their whole approach was v. scummy & gross, from the "we've been fans forever" with lots of old-days reminiscences to their "you know what we mean" pitch. IOW what cantankerous indie ppl suspect & get aggro about in this shit is true. You can take their money or they'll pay somebody to bite your style. It's bullshit, imo.

― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 4:25 PM

so u didn't do it, big whoop, here's yr medal. also why in the world would this thread "move to 77". get over yourself ffs

shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

this record is nice!

ciderpress, Sunday, 10 June 2012 05:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

take that shit to 77

contenderizer, Sunday, 10 June 2012 05:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

The larger point is that p4k tends to stack the decks towards their most favored artists in the most annoying and shameless way possible. (Note: this is not intended as criticism for those here who write for them)

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh I forgot to add 'intentional or not' to the end of the first sentence.

freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pitchfork is shameless and annoying (not intended as criticism)

brony ver (s1ocki), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

ilxor, Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

WOW

OPÓ (Ówen P.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

ilxor otm

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

got no human grace

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

:)

ilxor, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Probably not an original thought, but Beach House reminds me a lot of these guys

Moodles, Friday, 10 August 2012 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Has anybody seen them tour this record? How is it?

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 00:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

This has not stood the test of time with me sadly as I love Teen Dream and all their back catalog.

marginal victory, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

The album faded fast for me, too, but they're touring behind a really great show. Good setlist, awesome light show, and they sound heavier and louder than you'd probably expect

Evan R, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I still love the album so I guess I should go see them.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw them on Saturday in Toronto. They were terrific. Evan is right. They do sound heavier and louder than expected. They played five or six songs from Teen Dream and a handful from Devotion. And for me, Bloom hasn't faded. Still one of my favourite albums of the year.

Binjominia, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I wonder how much of this happens on a strictly regional level? I ask because there is a Gulf Coast casino currently running a TV ad soundtracked by a very faithful copping of the riff from The Black Keys' "Howlin' For You" (it's an even closer cop than the Pizza Hut "Gold On The Ceiling" ad in the above linked article).

― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:01 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lawyer Up

Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

cool, hope they lose

am0n, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink


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