WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING POLLED – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones (Extended deadline: April 1st)

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2000 Man is fab, 2nd best on the album after the mighty Citadel

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

both likely gonna be on mine

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Vegas has installed Gimme Shelter as the favorite, at 5 to 1.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

"salt of the earth" both is and is not insincere, and that's where it gets its power imo. it takes a lot of positions all at once, both occupying and eviscerating the "let them eat cake" position while also expressing both compassion and contempt for the masses. if it helps, bear in mind that e.g. many tea partiers are salt-of-the-earth types.

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:56 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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before Bowie and Ferry he was the first to conflate notions of "irony" and "sincerity"

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:05 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this read makes the most sense to me, because it doesn't come across anywhere near so black-hearted as it would if you figured the whole thing was a pisstake, but that "when i look into the faceless crowd" refrain does put a big kink in the apparent sincerity of the rest. like the compassion (or attempted compassion) is in earnest, but mick can't help admitting that he's looking down from above. i like the honesty of this.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

dagmn, "we love you" is so fucking great! killed me to cut it, but i did. agree that it's one of their very best SM-era tracks. like "child of the moon", it's probably gonna get screwed due to not appearing on any of the studio albums or hot rocks.

also:

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

cut down to 25. have somehow managed to let "saint of me" hang around despite having already jettisoned "paint it, black." am i a disgusting savage y/n?

ps worth noting that keef does not appear on "saint of me" but me'shell ndegéocello does.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

would probably vote for "love is strong" as well tbh if it weren't always bookended for me with "wicked as it seems"

TS: waddy wachtel's guitar vs mick jagger's harp

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't, and couldn't, get down with Saint of Me

I dunno why, it just doesn't do it for me

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

me neither

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

riff rules, charlie rules, middle eight is balls

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

again, for your consideration:

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

"we love you" is almost certainly getting one of my satanic majesties-era slots. 9 year old me would go for "dandelion" or "she's a rainbow" or "2000 man" for the opening lick alone but damn.

It made my ballot easily. Love the piano riff, and especially love Jagger's angry vocal (and Charlie's angry drums) on the middle eight.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everyone needs to vote for You Got The Silver!!!!!!

...so that I don't flagellate myself for having to cut it.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, no, sorry roger - it's not even on my short list [ducks out]

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

there is too much stones, too much stones, yeah

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

[ducks out again]

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't see how it's possible to have anything on this poll from after 1972.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I will have at least one track from 1973. Alfred will have no tracks before 1973.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think about timeline when I was working on my ballot (promise!), just looked at it afterwards and realized that the cutoff year was surprisingly early. Felt a little guilty, not guilty enough to make changes (yet).

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

My latest is 1978

I just couldn't can't do anything later, and I did try to devote a little bit of listening time to the later catalog stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was pretty conscious of the timeline, but still had a hard time coming up with something after 1973. "Shattered" and "One Hit" were late cuts, though.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm trying to fit in some guilty pleasure later singles. i think having only 20 spots on ballots makes the poll results consolidate more firmly on the peak period of long-running artists, though, for better or worse (for worse imo).

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

The whole "Some Girls" album is a huge weakness of mine, I had 2 picks off that album, very nearly 3.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love "Waiting on a Friend" as much as any sixties ballad.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Although I experienced the Stones later than what Rob Sheffied has called the Mall Rat Years (1978-1983), that's how I most fondly remember them.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I included "One Hit," but nothing later than that.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Waiting on a Friend is pretty great.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

my real intro to the stones was my parents' copy of hot rocks, which i became seriously obsessed with around age 12, followed by my mom's purchase of tattoo you when i was 14. i did then and still love do that album. also have a lot of affection for the funky slinky side of the late 70s/early 80s stones: "miss you", "shattered", "emotional rescue", "slave". all of those songs probably should have made my ballot, but most didn't.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some Girls isn't as good as I'd hoped. It's like they tried to remake Exile, only this time commercial, and missed what was good in the first place.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

god i will be so pissed if "Miss You" gets a raw deal in the final results because of the nothing-after-Exile crowd

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

tattoo you tracks that made my first cut:

Hang Fire
Little T & A
Neighbors
No Use In Crying
Slave
Start Me Up
Waiting On A Friend
Worried About You

"no use in crying" and "little t&a" were the hardest for me to deny

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

no "Heaven"!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've always been a baby duckling with music, imprinting on whatever's first. In this case, Hot Rocks and More Hot Rocks at 14, then Now! and Beggar's Banquet a year later.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Miss You is amazing, but it's the exception here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess I do need to vote if anything after 72 is in danger? wtf people?!

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had a couple of compilation cassettes when I was in early high school. One was Through The Past Darkly, and I think I had England's Newest Hit Makers, and I listen to those two alot. Especially ENHM, I loved the super-old garagey sound of those early covers. I think that kind of informed the sound I wanted from them, so I have a hard time with the cleanness of the later stuff. And stuff like Start Me Up, it just sounds like Superbowls and stadiums to me. There's sort of a, I dunno, smaller feel to the old stuff. That's not the right word, but it'll do.

Bigger Bang was as close as I've come to 'enjoying' their newer stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

you were thinking about not voting? wtf at u!
xp

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Miss You is outstanding.

WASSAMATTAWITCHOOBOY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lurkers might be stuffing out on Bridges to Babylon for all we know

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

There was a strong lurker demographic for Bowie -- I hope they're out in strength for this one!

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't have the energy to get all ~involved~ but I will submit a ballot because clearly "She's So Cold" needs me.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love "Hang Fire", thinking of voting for it. For the longest time I didn't know the name of the song, only knew it from the radio, & had convinced myself that it was "Angie", so when I sang the song around the house I sang the chorus as a series of howled "Angieeeeeeee"s, which I think I still prefer to the real song.

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't have the energy to get all ~involved~ but I will submit a ballot because clearly "She's So Cold" needs me.

srsly

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

That song is SO FUN to dance to.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

"She's So Cold" was one of my very last cuts!

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

the guy singing with his lady friend at 2:00 exactly looks like alfred!!

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

She's So Cold is fun, I wouldn't be sad if it made it. I didn't vote for it, but vote away lurkers!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not that the stuff after Exile is bad, lots of it is great. But for me at least, the Rolling Stones from 68 to 72 is the best music ever made by anyone. So naturally my top 20 is going to focus heavily on that period.

Here's a question (apologies if this has been covered upthread. What is the super immortal megaclassic Stones song that you're most sick of, and won't be on your ballot? For me it's Honky Tonk Women.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Possibly Brown Sugar. Certainly Satisfaction.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink


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