Which is WORSE: What Would You Say vs. Zombie

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i am an american, and i voted dave matthews

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would have voted for dave matthews just because zombie is at least in the larger sense part of uk post punk

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

it must have been terrible for dolores living somewhere where its all guns and bombs... oh wait

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dumbed down early U2 anthem with Sinead replacing Bono >>>> prog Hootie

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

On 18 July 1994, O'Riordan married Don Burton, the former tour manager of Duran Duran. Their first child, Taylor Baxter, was born on 23 November. Molly Leigh was born on 27 January 2001, and Dakota Rain on 10 April 2005.[citation needed]

In 1998, she bought a 61 hectare (150 acre) stud farm, called Riversfield Stud, located in Kilmallock, County Limerick. She lived there for six years before selling it in 2004.[10]

In 2006, O'Riordan was listed among the ten richest women in Ireland.[11]

O'Riordan lived in Howth, County Dublin with her husband and their three children. The family once divided their time between homes in Dublin and a log cabin located in Buckhorn, Ontario, Canada that was bought in 1994.[12][13] In 2009, her family moved full time to their home in Buckhorn.[14]

Although raised as a Roman Catholic, O'Riordan no longer practices. She identifies as an unconventional (but still religious) Christian. She is also an admirer of the late Pope John Paul II. After meeting him inside Vatican City, O'Riordan remarked: "[He] was lovely, very saintly. I was mad about him. I thought he really cared for the poor and he loved to meet the people. I saw him when he came to Limerick, when I was a kid. So it was pretty mindblowing to take my mum out to meet him."[15]

O'Riordan has also stated that she is pro-life, saying:"I am in no position to judge other women, you know. But I mean, why did she get pregnant? It's not good for women to go through the procedure [abortion] and have something living sucked out of their bodies. It belittles women. Even though some women say, 'Oh, I don't mind to have one,' every time a woman has an abortion, it just crushes her self-esteem smaller and smaller and smaller."[16]

beachville, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I loved both of these songs when I was a kid. I grew way way WAY out of DMB, and now I only 'like' Zombie.

So....write-in vote for "Tiptoe through the Tulips".

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Admittedly the Sinead comparison is p outlandish; I probably shouldve qualified that comparison with another 'dumbed down' xxp

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

is don burton american? otherwise i have no idea how two anglophone non-yanks have given a child the name "dakota rain"

goole, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've heard both of these songs recently -- I think I actually prefer "What Would You Say."

Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

cranberries just put a new album out last month, according to spotify. i haven't listened to it yet but i'm curious to see where dolores is at lyric-wise these days.

techno pink (reddening), Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably graduated to the cat sat on the mat lyrics

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

so she'd have studied under the tutelage of Peavy Wagner?

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

even mcgonigal could've done a better job

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

amazing poll... honestly I couldnt choose. Dave-bro is lamebro but that is one of his least horrible songs IMO, compared to another song that sucks in a totally different way and IIRC doesnt sound like any other cranberries song, obviously only issued as a single because it has loud guitars and the same chords as "Violet" and "Disarm."

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

even it's 'loudness' is polite though. but it did fool the populace well enough. I remember a lot of people who would sit in the Blockbuster Music (lol music stores w/ listening booths) listening to the album and then ask the salesmen "Are there any cd-singles with just Zombie", dismayed at the quiet 'other' songs even though ostensibly they were the same types of songs on the surface.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I feel like some people were voting for DMB vs. Cranberries rather than the songs themselves. Should've been 'Zombie' in a walk.

One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

there was an "mtv unplugged" version with a more suitable arrangement

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

DO-OVER

One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxpost I woulda still voted Cranberries tbh. I loved the hell out of Dave Matthews when I was a kid, but college dudes ruined them for me (well that and me hearing other music and realizing how boring DMB was).

I remember Cranberries album tracks being pretty pleasant too, even if I never felt compelled to listen to any of them in their entirety.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Salvation" was the nightmare the cranberries were meant to deliver... "Zombie" isn't exactly a nightmare.. just kinda mediocre.

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

was Salvation the really up-tempo number that sounded like a bizarro KayBee Toys jingle?

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha that sounds accurate

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

they played it at a VMAs and I remember the clip used in retrospectives was the "ah-haha ah-haha ah-haha ah-haha" part sang really out of key and the singer failing to encourage a crowd singalong.

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean "out of tune" lol

billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha that's the one I was thinking of.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I actually remember the first time I heard What Would You Say pretty clearly. I was starting to become aware of "funk" at the time, and I was also a bit of a muso/guitar nerd, and I remember thinking "this guy plays really good funk rhythm guitar and the drummer is tight and this doesn't sound like anything I've heard...so why is it so corny and bad?"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I also remember thinking "what the hell is wrong with this guy?"

i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I feel like some people were voting for DMB vs. Cranberries rather than the songs themselves. Should've been 'Zombie' in a walk.

no way. though i don't particularly like DMB, i'd take them over the cranberries in a second. difference here is that i actually like "zombie", and "what would you say" is one of my least favorite DMB tunes (of the few i'm familiar with).

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would venture to guess that DMB has more tolerable songs than Cranberries

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 00:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

probably graduated to the cat sat on the mat lyrics

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:56 PM (3 hours ago)

If it's anything like this jam then I am DOWN

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

^reminds me of WWYS lyrics:

Up and down the puppies' hair
Fleas and ticks jump everywhere
'Cause of original sin

Down the hill fell Jack and Jill
And you came tumbling after
'Cause of original sin

Wipe away the tears
Drink a hope to happy years
And you may find
A lifetime's passed me by

What would you say
Don't drop the big one
If you a monkey on a string
well Don't cut my life line
If you a doggie on a chain
Don't bite the mailman
What would you say

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy
Everyone goes in the end

Knock knock on the door
Who's it for, theres nobody in here
Look in the mirror my friend

I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
at mornin rise a lifetime's passed me by

What would you say
Dont' drop the big one
If you a monkey on a string
well Don't cut my life line
If you a doggie on a chain
Don't bite the mailman
What would you say

Every dog has its day every day has its way
Of being forgotten - "Mom, it's my birthday!"
whatd you say (then what could you say)
what would you say

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy
Everyone goes in the end

Knock knock on the door
Who's it for, theres nobody in here
Look in the mirror my friend

I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
at mornin rise a lifetime's passed me by

what would you say?

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Orange wild-eyed muppet a major influence on Dave's delivery I think.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

"with their tanks and their bombs/and their bombs and their guns" vs. "up and down the puppies' hair/fleas and ticks jump everywhere/cause of original sin"

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy

I kind of like this bcz wtf?

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I never noticed it because of Dave's goobery up-down delivery.

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

results are some bullshit imo

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do people here hate "Dreams?" I figured that was generally considered an ok song.

billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

kind of not that bad... better than pretty much any Dave jam

billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I do love Linger more than any DMB song; only "Two Step" comes close...

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

"i drink too much" makes me want to drink too much

billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's probably because they were totally ubiquitous when I was 13-17, the age at which your brain is highly vulnerable to radio hits, but I kinda like all DMB's mid-'90s stuff. Cranberries aren't too bad, either. Someone from the post-Pearl Jam crop of assholes like Bush is way more odious to me.

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

When I was 15 people would tell me I look like Dolores, but that's because I had short red hair and people are unimaginative/love making celeb comparisons.

Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

OTM about having a hard time really hating those mid-90s Dave singles. We should do worst Bush single or something.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 March 2012 03:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bush singles >>> DMB singles, but I'm something of a grunge acolyte...

dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 04:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

the first 7 bush singles are good.

billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 04:53 (2 years ago) Permalink


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