Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

tbh i kinda think twitter is an ideal medium for calling ppl out on their bullshit

mh: I do see that now - I didn't before - like I said, I got online drama fatigue and started skimming. But my irritance with her approach registered loooong before that. Fuck, I would neeeever tweet at one of our clients like that (assuming if he knows, so would she.) I like my job! And I drop a lot of fucks!

@shanley @rekatz our friend wanted to do the video really bad because she is a model and she loved the brand, what's wrong with that?

"it can't be sexist, our friend WANTED to make this video"

Elmo - that's fair. But sexism is a pretty sensitive issue so I feel like restricting yourself/your combatant to 140 characters at a time is just setting yourself up to be hurt.

This professionalism talk is bullshit because the geek conference circuit, which these people are a part of, tends to be kind of sweary and this male/female dynamic is all too common. I doubt she thought she was being that off-color, and them reading it as such and acting like she's way out of line codes wrong

is there a place to watch the video? it's apparently private now?

― Mordy, Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:13 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ Mordy knows what's really up

That's fair. I don't work in the geek circuit but I do have lots of friends who do (uh oh I'm veering dangerously close here! I HAVE A FAMILY TOO!!!) but they're not the types to take that approach. LOL Canadians. I would classify myself as 1000% more crude than the ones I know, heh. I can't watch the video - it's private now - and I'm not debating whether it was sexist. I just don't believe that if an angry man tweeted at these people he wouldn't have received similar dismissal.

I gotta break myself of the phrase 'That's fair,' ugh.

https://twitter.com/#!/shanley/status/182878421133705217

now, this is just ugly

like, what are they hoping for by trying to get a bunch of people together to do this?
"hey everyone, come here so we can throw rocks at this complaining woman. or feminists, show up to throw rocks at us. we'll be there!"

is there a place to watch the video?

imagine a tech company logo on the front panel of a scantily clad lady's underpants... forever

xp Yeah that's just weird. I don't really want to defend either of these people, haha. I just want to send the world to Lex's Finishing School of Grace and Respectability. My Grandma was my professor. I still don't wear navy & black together, either.

Wow, that exchange mh just posted is... wtf? Don't advertise a meeting that you haven't actually arranged and then suggest the person not going is the one being nasty about it. What a major-league douche.

http://kottke.org/07/02/gender-diversity-at-web-conferences

guuuh

this company looks like it's made of bubble and refined bubble btw: http://geekli.st/about

apology: http://gklst.tumblr.com/post/19734620901/geeklist-and-a-public-apology

oh n/m already posted

that derailingfordummies link is great, and giving me cause to take an uncomfortable inventory

not even refined bubble. fumes emitted from the bubble refinery.

and apparently more of the same from the tech world: http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/03/how-casual-sexism-put-sqoot-in.php

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/04/ryan-gosling-actually-historys-greatest-monster.html

I don't really know how to respond to this

Discussed / LOL'd at this a bit on the Guardian thread because I didn't know where else to put it.

I haven't read the clusterfuck that I'm sure the comments will be, but on my first reading of the NYMag article, having read first the palaver, then Laurie Penny's ridiculous Gawker article...

I'm the first person to cry "sexism" in any situation where I detect even a sniff of it, but my reaction was: actually, not sexist. Hilarious.

That is: that I don't think that it's Penny's gender that caused the clusterfuck, but the things she wrote and the attitudes she seemed to take. I'm sure that she may receive a greater and more pointed *beatdown* for it, but the opprobrium is not due to her gender, but the fact that she behaved in a kind of a ridiculous and cliched manner. But, like, that's actually what some of us like LOLrie Penny for?

anti-Semetic tbh

ah okay, I have no idea who laurie penny and didn't read the gawker article beyond what was excerpted xp

must be seen to be believed

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4065/4288631655_dde22a9f17_z.jpg

the comments on some of those pages can be even more fucked up, given the half-century gap

girl watcher mag is pretty klassik honestly

Congratulations, you found a sexist thing. Try a slightly smaller target next time, maybe?

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2530/4297737231_4661076c6c_z.jpg

still don't believe it

poll thread:

• LETTERS TO GIRL WATCHER
• THE GIRL WATCHER'S ALMANAC
• My Favorite Girl for Watching: THE KITTEN TYPE
• GIRL WATCHING AROUND THE WORLD
• GIRL WATCHER'S GUIDE TO PARIS
• STALKING THE GIRL
• THE GIRL NEXT DOOR
• COLLECTING PRETTY GIRLS
• A GIRL WATCHER ESCAPES
• LOVE GODDESS DEPARTMENT
• GIRLS WHO WANNA BE WATCHED
• ANSWERS TO GIRL WATCHING PROBLEMS
• THE FARMER'S DAUGHTER
• STRAWBERRY BIRTHMARK DEPT.
• THE PEEGEE GIRLS
• HIP FLIPPERS, ETC.
• GIRL ON A HORSE

girl watcher mag is pretty klassik honestly

if you say so champ

^not a taschen fan i see

I'm more of a Jaybird fan

Uh huh

not really sure what's unbelievable about this tbh

largely hyperbole, no need to dwell on it

could just have easily titled the link THIS IS SEXIST

this is straining my credulity a little, tbh

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/botony.jpg

your credulity pants

http://www.thenation.com/blog/167402/how-gender-identity-may-determine-right-vote-2012

"This is, by any measure, the portion of the electorate that is among the most marginalized and stigmatized, and hence probably most in need of the right to have a say in who governs their lives. But discussions on both sides of voter ID laws tend to leave out transgender citizens in discussions about who would be most adversely impacted."

Is this homophobic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-rFo6DDwss

@ :25

i swear to god i just saw a slightly different version of this where the guy does a little limp-wristed gesture at the two women at the end

Not unless "steamer" is some derogatory thing I'm not getting imo

^never been to cleveland

ha it really was the version i saw that was too much. i don't think he was even holding the mug making it clear he was a cat person

Should we start a "this is/is this homophobic" thread?

This is sexist: http://jezebel.com/5911226/republican-dudes-wont-let-dcs-female-delegate-speak-against-abortion-ban-in-the-district

I just... boggle, at shit like that. I dont know what else to say.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/im-not-your-wife-a-new-study-points-to-a-hidden-form-of-sexism/258057/

The anecdotes at the beginning are so o_O and you can just imagine some old business-looking dude in a suit mindlessly saying them