Rolling 'this is sexist' thread

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the other thing to realize is that she wasn't personally attacking either of them, she was attacking a video that was related to their company! I understand they feel like their company is important but an individual accusing a company of being sexist and appealing to the leaders of that company is different from them mentioning their business connections and pulling those in the conversation.

"I, as a person, find this offensive" is not something you respond to with as "We, as a company know where you work and can tell your boss"

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbh i kinda think twitter is an ideal medium for calling ppl out on their bullshit

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

mh: I do see that now - I didn't before - like I said, I got online drama fatigue and started skimming. But my irritance with her approach registered loooong before that. Fuck, I would neeeever tweet at one of our clients like that (assuming if he knows, so would she.) I like my job! And I drop a lot of fucks!

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

@shanley @rekatz our friend wanted to do the video really bad because she is a model and she loved the brand, what's wrong with that?

"it can't be sexist, our friend WANTED to make this video"

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Elmo - that's fair. But sexism is a pretty sensitive issue so I feel like restricting yourself/your combatant to 140 characters at a time is just setting yourself up to be hurt.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

This professionalism talk is bullshit because the geek conference circuit, which these people are a part of, tends to be kind of sweary and this male/female dynamic is all too common. I doubt she thought she was being that off-color, and them reading it as such and acting like she's way out of line codes wrong

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

is there a place to watch the video? it's apparently private now?

― Mordy, Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:13 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ Mordy knows what's really up

Lester the Unlikely (crüt), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's fair. I don't work in the geek circuit but I do have lots of friends who do (uh oh I'm veering dangerously close here! I HAVE A FAMILY TOO!!!) but they're not the types to take that approach. LOL Canadians. I would classify myself as 1000% more crude than the ones I know, heh. I can't watch the video - it's private now - and I'm not debating whether it was sexist. I just don't believe that if an angry man tweeted at these people he wouldn't have received similar dismissal.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I gotta break myself of the phrase 'That's fair,' ugh.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/#!/shanley/status/182878421133705217

now, this is just ugly

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

like, what are they hoping for by trying to get a bunch of people together to do this?
"hey everyone, come here so we can throw rocks at this complaining woman. or feminists, show up to throw rocks at us. we'll be there!"

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

is there a place to watch the video?

imagine a tech company logo on the front panel of a scantily clad lady's underpants... forever

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp Yeah that's just weird. I don't really want to defend either of these people, haha. I just want to send the world to Lex's Finishing School of Grace and Respectability. My Grandma was my professor. I still don't wear navy & black together, either.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, that exchange mh just posted is... wtf? Don't advertise a meeting that you haven't actually arranged and then suggest the person not going is the one being nasty about it. What a major-league douche.

emil.y, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://kottke.org/07/02/gender-diversity-at-web-conferences

guuuh

mh, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

this company looks like it's made of bubble and refined bubble btw: http://geekli.st/about

s.clover, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh n/m already posted

jabba hands, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

that derailingfordummies link is great, and giving me cause to take an uncomfortable inventory

catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

not even refined bubble. fumes emitted from the bubble refinery.

s.clover, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

and apparently more of the same from the tech world: http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2012/03/how-casual-sexism-put-sqoot-in.php

s.clover, Thursday, 22 March 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/04/ryan-gosling-actually-historys-greatest-monster.html

I don't really know how to respond to this

dayo, Thursday, 5 April 2012 11:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Discussed / LOL'd at this a bit on the Guardian thread because I didn't know where else to put it.

I haven't read the clusterfuck that I'm sure the comments will be, but on my first reading of the NYMag article, having read first the palaver, then Laurie Penny's ridiculous Gawker article...

I'm the first person to cry "sexism" in any situation where I detect even a sniff of it, but my reaction was: actually, not sexist. Hilarious.

That is: that I don't think that it's Penny's gender that caused the clusterfuck, but the things she wrote and the attitudes she seemed to take. I'm sure that she may receive a greater and more pointed *beatdown* for it, but the opprobrium is not due to her gender, but the fact that she behaved in a kind of a ridiculous and cliched manner. But, like, that's actually what some of us like LOLrie Penny for?

Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 5 April 2012 11:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

anti-Semetic tbh

Mordy, Thursday, 5 April 2012 12:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah okay, I have no idea who laurie penny and didn't read the gawker article beyond what was excerpted xp

dayo, Thursday, 5 April 2012 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

the comments on some of those pages can be even more fucked up, given the half-century gap

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

girl watcher mag is pretty klassik honestly

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Congratulations, you found a sexist thing. Try a slightly smaller target next time, maybe?

how did I get here? why am I in the whiskey aisle? this is all so (Laurel), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

still don't believe it

yuppie bullshit chocolate blogbait (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

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THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

girl watcher mag is pretty klassik honestly

if you say so champ

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 23 April 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

^not a taschen fan i see

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm more of a Jaybird fan

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Uh huh

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 23 April 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

not really sure what's unbelievable about this tbh

W. E. B. Du Bois Goals Panel (DJ Mencap), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

largely hyperbole, no need to dwell on it

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

could just have easily titled the link THIS IS SEXIST

heavy is the head that eats the crayons (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is straining my credulity a little, tbh

THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Monday, 23 April 2012 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

your credulity pants

mh, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.thenation.com/blog/167402/how-gender-identity-may-determine-right-vote-2012

"This is, by any measure, the portion of the electorate that is among the most marginalized and stigmatized, and hence probably most in need of the right to have a say in who governs their lives. But discussions on both sides of voter ID laws tend to leave out transgender citizens in discussions about who would be most adversely impacted."

1staethyr, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 04:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Is this homophobic?

@ :25

i swear to god i just saw a slightly different version of this where the guy does a little limp-wristed gesture at the two women at the end

goole, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not unless "steamer" is some derogatory thing I'm not getting imo

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 18 May 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

^never been to cleveland

bailiwick bill (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 May 2012 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha it really was the version i saw that was too much. i don't think he was even holding the mug making it clear he was a cat person

goole, Friday, 18 May 2012 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Should we start a "this is/is this homophobic" thread?

a parker full of poseys (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 18 May 2012 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just... boggle, at shit like that. I dont know what else to say.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:45 (2 years ago) Permalink


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