2012 republican presidential nominee IV: NEEDS MORE BOOING

remember when folks were claiming that unlike the "black vote," the "latino vote" was up for grabs?

I think there's a misconception/wishful thinking among the GOP that as long as the latino population agrees with the GOP about certain policies, they will ignore the GOP's unrepetant racism and (maybe! with the grace of God!) vote for them

here's your answer:

Among the findings, 69.5 percent consider themselves Democrats or lean that way, while just 15.9 percent consider themselves Republican or lean that way.

unless something dramatic happens, this election (meaning the general) is over.

and i'm ok w/ that.

clearly the GOP needs to push for immigration restrictions retroactive to 1972

just to annoy Morbz... was recently discussing the prospect/likelihood of Hillary running in '16. Biden's bound to be an uninspiring candidate, and it would seem like this would be her best opportunity. otoh, at that point would she be deemed too old? (eg older than Reagan was when he ran...?)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6857561938_c9ce9fd7d3.jpg

Newt Gingrich really missed out on his true calling as a prop comic imho

yah hillarys too old, has said as much herself

hmm in 2016 she'll be the same as Reagan was in '80

I'm not sure I would count her out if the political environment were right

she's said no a thousand times but who knows.

to me the tell isnt just that shes said no but said that she will be too old

the fact that santorum is shooting an LCD projector on to a bare wall and not a proper projection surface makes me smdh u_u

thats santorum '12 for u

eh if we're coming off of a second obama pres + the gop is still in chaos + the economy is okay + there isn't another strong dem candidate, it might be too tempting to resist. I'm not sure what I'd rate the chances of all of those things being true. but she prob isn't willing to go through a brutal fight.

state of GOP in '16 will be interesting - Jeb will run if he thinks the Bush name can be rehabilitated. Otherwise it's likely to be an even more ridiculous re-run of this latest primary season imho

chelsea will be old enough to be prez in 2016

o_O waht

that does blow my mind a little bit

ha i srsly just checked wikipedia

didn't we form an exploratory committee for a djp candidacy at one point?

i still feel he has the stuff to take down that elephant thing hardcore

The funniest thing Newt's said in months came thanks to that Etch-a-Sketch. To a child to whom he'd given the thing: "Now you too can make your own presidential candidate!"

wow man so....i don't check this thread that often but the etch-a-sketch thing and that eminem mitt romney thing...goddamn

this is just an unreal campaign

where is ron paul's etch-a-sketch

He has nothing to sketch: he doesn't believe in government

he's building his own

xp

He's using one of those things you get at the supermarket, where you draw on plastic with a stylus and rip it from its cardboard backing when you're done.

The odds are probably low, but I can see where Hillary might run in 2016. The arguments against are numerous and obvious, starting with age and her public statements, but I think she has this core conviction that she was going to be the first female president, and that's a hard thing to let go of. Unless she has--maybe a controversy-free term as SOS, with high favorability, has softened that. She came perilously close to burning all her bridges in 2008, but she's well past all that; I'm sure her candidacy would be very well received. Whether Obama wins or loses would factor in. Not sure which would be better from her vantage point--it's hard for a party to win three in a row, so a loss would probably be better. Can't see Biden running in a million years.

it's hard for a party to win three in a row

not when you are running against CRAZY

Can't see Biden running in a million years.

Biden's been running for President for like 25 years at this point

I mean he's terribly uninspiring as a candidate but his ego is gigantic and plenty of VPs think "I deserve this"

and yeah it is hard to win three in a row, but the GOP is imploding in such a spectacular manner, without Jeb in the picture it's hard to see where a galvanizing, unifying figure is going to come from in the next 4 years.

In six years Biden won't be in any shape to run across the street.

Jooooooooee the Biden

(to the tune of Joe the Lion)

Jooooe Biden's gonna tell us where the light is.

Now that the nomination's basically done with, Mitt will have to step up his gaffe-of-the-day strategy to keep this interesting--bigger gaffes, better gaffes, more of them. He--his campaign--got off to an excellent start yesterday. But Obama's side should know enough to sit back and let things like the Etch-a-Sketch story take care of themselves. (Yesterday they jumped in.) They're kind of vulnerable on that point.

I think she has this core conviction that she was going to be the first female president

this is a weird claim

I said "I think"--an opinion. And really, I don't see what's so weird about it at all.

The popular caricature of Biden as either a simpleton (late-night talk shows) or a party animal (The Onion) probably doesn't do him any favors were he to contemplate a presidential run in 2016. Also he would be (slightly) older than Dole was in '96.

xp Don't most presidential hopefuls have a keen sense of their potential historical significance and - in order to keep them going through the long, brutal slog - a certain sense that they are destined for it?

I am sort of hoping the first female president isn't, y'know, the wife of one of the previous presidents.

One huge difference between Hillary and Biden is that I imagine the core of Hillary's support still feels that 2008 was an unfinished story--if she ever did jump in, they'd be there. The core of Biden's support from 2008...well, I can't even finish that sentence.

ION, I am hoping that the Romney team are actively trolling his rivals with this shit, and that they will exploit the standard Republican enthusiasm for / ineptitude with joeks to turn them further to the side of prop comics. Look for one of Mitt's staff to make an exploitable remark involving a flaming bag of dogpoop!

Naive question from britisher: Is there any ladies in US Politics who could potentially run and win in the next 3 elections?

Potentially? I think Elizabeth Warren might have a way outside shot, but she'd have to win her Senate race first...

Is there any ladies in US Politics who could potentially run and win in the next 3 elections?

for President? Hillary's the only real national figure with the necessary party backing. As noted, Warren hasn't even won an election yet. I don't think Sebelius or Feinstein or whoever has any interest in being president.

I would vote for Barbara Mikulski though

3 elections (assuming you're not counting 2012) is a long time tho -- someone totally off the radar today could show up in 2023.