Nina Kraviz - Nina Kraviz [2012]

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Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

This reminds me a bit of Blackdown's eternal crusade against "winebar house".

Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

also - wtf are "dad drums"? i think i like them

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

This shit has live sounding drums locked to a house grid.

oh man that is just THE WORST. Live drums and house music is SO DFA

never mention the fact that there is absolutely nothing resembling live drums on this at all

all these 'criticisms' make me want to like this even more than i already do

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

and yea it is weird how earnest posts about an understated album have inspired so much vitriol.

i feel like i can listen to something on hessle or swamp 81 and think to myself, "i have no idea where or why anyone would listen to this stuff" but that doesn't mean i'm not willing to accept that i might have overlooked smthg or be listening to it in the wrong context and maybe i should just let it slide and post about stuff i actually enjoy

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:42 AM Bookmark

yeah, really!

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is kind of cool. reminds me of kate wax, julia holter, emika and all the other chicks from the arty electro thread

cock chirea, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sascha Funke vs. Nina Kraviz
http://open.spotify.com/artist/1meuzXhsNqB8rtK4Cc2MUy

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

"vitriol" seems kind of hyperbolic

jimi's just offering a gentle "idgi"

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

idgi it either but tim's comment about it sounding more or less like a poker flat album from the last 10 years kinda covers any other comments i could add to the thread

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't hear even any vague similarities between nina kraviz, blondes, john talabot and dfa. also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

I played her for Rev in the outloud room one night, which I think was his first time hearing her. I'm neither a dance head or an indie people.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

neither/nor, rather.

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Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're head people.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

nina released records on dj jus-ed label, can't get realer house than that.

sisilafami, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

"it's not house cos i like house", "it's not indie cos i hate indie"... jesus, state of some of you.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

"it's not indie cos i hate indie"

who said this?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

superfluous "not" there

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok, gotcha

The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.

Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is mega Berlin 2012 DFA tech indie house if ever I saw it.

lmao dude

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

still gotta hear this album but i like what i've heard from nina kraviz. also she's hot. and hey is she dating ben klock??

she's def popular with teh dance heads.

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't get the "indie" thing or the dfa comparisons either. haha ok i just relistened to some kalabrese and i don't know what i was remembering because kalabrese is certainly not "jam packed" or maximalist, by and large. there is a lot of overlap with what nina kraviz is doing for sure. it's more interesting to me to figure out why they're different, though, and to my mind they are. damned if i can really explain it. i can also see the comparisons with poker flat but again i've been bored silly by most poker flat stuff i've heard and not this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening (some more than others, obv; i don't really like the ultra-leaden voice on "ghetto kraviz" for example). perhaps one point of distinction between kraviz and somebody like dani siciliano (or kalabrese) is the sense of cheapness to it, for lack of a better word. half thought-out. which is maybe what jimi was getting at. but me, i like cheap if it sounds like this!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.

i feel like this has been the scourge of dance discussion here and beyond for a long, long time. not that there hasn't been plenty good discussion. really wish it would stop, there is this constant thing everything some people hate is labelled as a word they've already decided they hate and vice versa, regardless of the music.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh come on, makes perfect sense, this music sounds like shit, that other music sounds like shit, qed

the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

that post was indie nonsense.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

only a soulless dance fan would say something like that

Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

on the essential mix...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01h5gtt

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Loving it so far. Very much making me want to don a pair of shades and sway by a rooftop pool rather than being in the basement shop of a university selling Polo mints.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ghetto Kraviz is so ghetto.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

awful, gay, indie, dfa, live, drum, old, man, brown, turd, fog, house, music

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 07:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Proverb states soulless dance fan gets glass in feet.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 10 June 2012 10:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I saw her over the weekend and she only played super-super-super-SUPER-SUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEERRRR-tracky techno with barely any synth lines or anything and no real obvious breakdowns or buildups and most people (self-included) had no idea what to do with it. Like people would just dance for a little bit and then stop cause there weren't really any cues in the music to ease back here, go nuts here, whatever.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like it was all pretty banging and stuff but not really in the service of anything.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

you probably forgot to do drugs first.

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 October 2012 06:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I did have someone ask me if I knew where to get any E. But I didn't know. :(

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 8 October 2012 08:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

only track of hers i know is zlobnii mikrob - representative?

suare, Monday, 8 October 2012 08:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening

i don't know, but maybe there's less songcraft getting in the way of the good bits? i hear, like, refrains, and fragments of refrains, and of backing vocals, but less of a heavy effort to sculpt them into house's version of a 'song'

even if it is there somehow.

cuz anyway good refrains or groups of refrain-like parts don't need so much in the way of development

j., Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:41 (10 months ago) Permalink


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