Nina Kraviz - Nina Kraviz [2012]

more of that indie tech house

2012 landfill indie house

Big up the ghost of DFA

Blondes/Talabot/Kraviz

Your time

yea we've already talked about how none of those things have anything to do with dfa

lol @ 'landfill' in the context of three albums as they compare to the glut of post-dubstep blah (talk about BORING) put out in the first few months of 2012. and talabot might be a bit indie but don't you like sun araw and shit?

This is mega Berlin 2012 DFA tech indie house if ever I saw it.

so what (it isn't, but so what anyway)

i agree with some of those qualifiers but still sorta fail to see how dfa has anything to do w/it (maybe ndf/benoit & sergio at a stretch)

plus, dfa is great! i love all of those qualifiers except "tech house", but i guess that term can be stretched to mean p much whatever you'd like

when i think 'tech house' i think of maetrik or smthg and then i want to fall asleep

I keep wondering why I have such an urge to post negatIve comments on this thread, but then I realise that's because I've listened to the incredibly mundane music linked in the youtubes. Come on, it's Beatport fodder super-clean quasi deep "t-shirt house" with a marketing angle. Lee Foss mentioned above is probably about right for the sort of music you'd have in the same set.

I don't want to be a hater, but I can't help myself with this one.

Hope that wasn't too harsh :/ I'm a little dunk

would have never guessed this would be something so many people would take such a strong disliking to :/

still my favorite album so far this year tho all y'all can suck it ^_^

Its some kinda turbo bland stealth tech house vibe washing over ealy 2012 like a brown turd fog.

Every time Jimi references DFA in these discussions his point loses a bit more credibility.

Surely the default negative comparison point for dark, smoky repetitive pre-and-post minimal techo-house is Poker Flat (though nb. I love loads and loads of Poker Flat).

And this does sound like an album that might have been released on Poker Flat literally at any time between 2001 and 2011.

well dfa is the only indie house explosion I can remember I'm not that old.

shitty live-ish drums on some kinda techy disco house grid with some kinda deep house vibes.

+vaugly loose analouge synth work... its all there DFA is all over this shit.

depressing old man indie house

I like DFA and I like this and this sounds nothing like DFA.

And I don't see what this has anything to do with indie or live drums or disco house.

or old men

This is just grid locked DFA Papa house.

DFA is THE indie dance label of ye olde times.

This shit has live sounding drums locked to a house grid.

+I keep seeing Nina/Blondes/Talabot as the only dance album on indie forums this year.

They're the dad house indie house tracks of the year so far.

u make no sense

Jimi, you tell me some albums from indie artists that have crossed over to dance forums so I can come vomit on them, plz.

jimi, step your guilt by association game up, please

Beach House

I don't mind a cross over.

It's just that this stuff is kinda shit/boring.

jimi i love u but i don't hear anything the tiniest bit live-sounding about these drums, and it doesn't read as DFA-ish at all to me. i hear it as analog-ish straight-up house (and i don't have the dance music background to be able to really distinguish between different genres of house, but i want to say it sounds like 'classic' or 'regular' house, whether that means 'deep' or Detroit techno or whatever), and the vocals are the one thing giving it some identity and personality (and that's not a diss, necessarily).

Jimi would you like to borrow a shovel to save some time.

jimi i love u but you're bringin me down

its all sampled kits clipped from dads drums and clicked to a grid

to make it sound generic in that dfa kinda way.

the early dfa comps went right into this sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OROghdWYfcM / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7u3Po15_L8

Nina just sounds like a minimal dub version of that.

sounds like drum machines to me

and huge lols at dissing something by comparing it to "casual friday"

(which nothing on this sounds anything like)

to make it sound generic in that dfa kinda way.

If it's generic, how can you assign any of its characteristics to a source?

Did shovel do the drums for DFA?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie78VtBtwBI

at this point, i'm just going to sit back and commend your trolling.

http://notes.tomhenrich.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/slow-clap.gif

The only trolling here is generic house like Nina the Blondes & Talabot.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa258/thefreshprince101/snoopsmh.gif

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

This reminds me a bit of Blackdown's eternal crusade against "winebar house".

also - wtf are "dad drums"? i think i like them

This shit has live sounding drums locked to a house grid.

oh man that is just THE WORST. Live drums and house music is SO DFA

never mention the fact that there is absolutely nothing resembling live drums on this at all

all these 'criticisms' make me want to like this even more than i already do

and yea it is weird how earnest posts about an understated album have inspired so much vitriol.

i feel like i can listen to something on hessle or swamp 81 and think to myself, "i have no idea where or why anyone would listen to this stuff" but that doesn't mean i'm not willing to accept that i might have overlooked smthg or be listening to it in the wrong context and maybe i should just let it slide and post about stuff i actually enjoy

LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true

― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:42 AM Bookmark

yeah, really!

this is kind of cool. reminds me of kate wax, julia holter, emika and all the other chicks from the arty electro thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE5uHNoGOHU

Sascha Funke vs. Nina Kraviz
http://open.spotify.com/artist/1meuzXhsNqB8rtK4Cc2MUy

"vitriol" seems kind of hyperbolic

jimi's just offering a gentle "idgi"

idgi it either but tim's comment about it sounding more or less like a poker flat album from the last 10 years kinda covers any other comments i could add to the thread

i don't hear even any vague similarities between nina kraviz, blondes, john talabot and dfa. also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people

I played her for Rev in the outloud room one night, which I think was his first time hearing her. I'm neither a dance head or an indie people.

neither/nor, rather.

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you're head people.

nina released records on dj jus-ed label, can't get realer house than that.

"it's not house cos i like house", "it's not indie cos i hate indie"... jesus, state of some of you.

"it's not indie cos i hate indie"

who said this?

superfluous "not" there

ok, gotcha