aero totally otm
xp
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
"something new" != "something by a new band"
all that Buzz Bin ever meant was "we are hyping this"
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
the extremely poorly edited wikipedia entry i linked upthread disagrees with you, but that's not the best backup admittedly
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
No old-skool 120 Minutes viewer who watched the slow encroachment of Alternative Nation could argue that MTV's motives wrt this stuff were anything other than cynical.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
sure he's talking sense, nothing he's saying is WRONG, he's just deploying it like inside knowledge and not shit that everyone knows, which is really condescending and annoying
lol no that how you're reading it because of your thirst for beef and the tiresome baggage you bring to the subject! stop giving a shit about the name at the end of the post & just read the post, maybe
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
"you're only disagreeing with my stone cold truth because of who's saying it" is the #1 most condescending bullshit anyone can say fyi
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
i disagree w/ tons of people i like and dislike on here all the time, as we all do, without anyone yelling "beef! personal vendetta! beef!"
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but it seems to be true here dude! you do a bunch of weirdo reading-into stuff with the posts on this thread, whatever the core's about you do it on any thread where we're both posting about bands from the 90s. I say I hate smashing pumpkins, you have some theory about why that might be - a theory steeped in totally delusional ideas. it's deeply weird tbh
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
we have found some dude's "in my world of young people"
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
(actually I just wanted to type that because that phrase always makes me lol, please carry on)
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
beearf
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
in my buzz bin of delusional beefs
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
all i'm saying is that whether by design or not, 95% of all 'buzz clips' were the act's big mainstream breakthrough, which makes the other 5% stick out and seem like they don't belong, not that whether they """"belong"""" in such a dubious enterprise actually matters
i wouldn't even remember who i made fun of for being hilariously angry about smashing pumpkins in 2011/2012 if he didn't keep talking about it tbh
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
it cannot be worse than Zombie (nothing is)you and I do not often see eye to eye but in this matter we are brothers
you and I do not often see eye to eye but in this matter we are brothers
haha you and I have been agreeing on a lot of things recently!i don't hold grudges, esp for internet stuff, so im not going to avoid otming you when you are. and everything you've said about buzz bin is otm.
however i like smashing pumpkins so you might hold that against me! ;)
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
all i'm saying is that whether by design or not, 95% of all 'buzz clips' were the act's big mainstream breakthrough
no, that's just how it seemed to you. all these acts were established and playing large rooms by the time their videos aired. here's one example:
In 1993–1994, almost six years after its original release, the song became a hit on radio and earned Buzz Bin rotation on MTV[3] after a music video incorporating live footage was created to promote the band's new EP, Thrall: Demonsweatlive. The concert footage was taken from the band's Halloween 1992 performance at the Irvine Meadows Amphitheater in California, with additional footage shot in the UK.[4] This version of the song was retitled "Mother '93" and included an overdubbed "live" concert audience atop the original track, extra reverb, and a minor modification to the guitar solo.[5]
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
Feel like all the buzz bin = buzz bands owes something to this:
http://www.oaktreevintage.com/web_photos/effects/DOD_Buzz-Box_FX33_Distortion_Pedal_web.jpg
Confusion understandable.
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
The real point here is that "Low" is not getting nearly enough respect here, so I'm voting for it, and also "Thunder Kiss '65" >>>>> "More Human Than Human."
(Why is there not yet a Chinese food chain called "More Hunan than Hunan?" WHY?)
― bring back the dream of buzz bin (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
there's kind of a big gap between 'playing large rooms' and 'one million people bought their album'
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
Lol this thread was worth it for leading me to the first graf of the history section on noted buzz band Lit's Wikipedia:
Pre-Lit (1989–1996)The band was formed in 1989 under the name Razzle. The group released a demo tape in 1990 and an EP entitled New Vibe Revolution in 1993. Razzle dissolved in 1993 and became Stain in 1994, which had a much harder and heavier sound. They released a demo tape in 1995 and eventually signed with Malicious Vinyl in 1995. Due to another band owning the name, they changed their name to Lit in 1996.
this is a band that literally never had a good idea
― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
dod made a grunge pedal too! they still might
― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
xp and one pretty good song
last I checked, the dod buzz box was selling for $300 on ebay.
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
haha new vibe revolution by razzle
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
we should poll all cultural artifacts named "-zzle"
― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
did the melvins ever get in the buzz bin?
http://s3.amazonaws.com/delivery.midheaven.com/k/103680/images/0381610032260_main.jpg
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
Some Dude, in the UK Razzle is a porn mag
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
king buzzle
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
Also the late drummer of Hanoi Rocks.
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
we'll note that for the poll, Algerian Goalkeeper
― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
can we just do a poll of things with gratuitous Zs in them, because than ZUBAZ will win
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
AyeI fucking hate vince neil.
― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SfE592gzSI
― ffun. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0idrwhYJZk
― ffun. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
i totally get some dude's point - saying "buzz bins were bought by record labels and given to already popular bands" doesn't contradict that the Cranberries already received and could expect plenty of MTV airtime by "Zombie" and most of the groups given buzz bin nods didn't.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
that said, i've been accused of selective memory and long-held, judgment-clouding ilx beef by aero before, too, so i can't be trusted.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
tbh I prefer waygu beeg
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
uhhhhh beeF
my typing is horribad today
some dude and aero are both otm in a way
i mean, clearly, that Buzz Bin was 80% "new artists" made to give the thing cred and 20% "alt-leaning already-popular things" so people had some reference point for why they were seeing the Eels on TV.
― ffun. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, that 94 ad you posted has only two real mtv 'breakthrough' vids (weezer and dino jr), a follow-up to a hit (offspring) and a 'wtf they're already huge' way more absurd than the cranberries (beasties). so yeah, by "zombie" the brand had been diluted.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
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<3
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not even sure that "feel the pain" was dino's first appearance in the buzz bin. for all i know that video where j snowboards briefly lived in the bin as well
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
clearly, that Buzz Bin was 80% "new artists"
I'm not even sure this is true of the options being polled
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
"Zombie" and to a lesser, Beavis-fueled extent "More Human Than Human" are the only songs on the comp I wouldn't pick as the band's buzz bin breakthrough, with respect to "Sex Type Thing".
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
actually I think I saw Cracker's "Happy Birthday To Me" a couple times after school, though "Low" definitely crossed over harder than that or "Teen Angst"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
Cracker, Gin Blossoms, Danzig, the Cranberries - these were not "new" acts in any way
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
look at you, flaunting your hip by saying you knew the gin blossoms from way back
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
i was surprised later on to see that "Start Choppin'" had peaked higher on Billboard a year earlier than "Feel The Pain," since the latter seemed like a semi-big hit because of the video while i never really heard the former outside the parent album
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
Shakey, we're talking about songs bands broke through on MTV with, that you and your hipster buds were jamming to Dusted years before is kind of irrelevant
― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
just fyi I have never listened to the Gin Blossoms
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link