Which is WORSE: What Would You Say vs. Zombie

Still think Dolores' screeching is somewhat more pleasant than Alanis' - it's not so adenoidal, for one thing. And it was a neat sound effect for a few singles, anyway.

dan you lived among tundra whites and went to an ivy! how is this possible!!

plz remember the tundra whites I most commonly hung out with; how many of them do you think would be playing DMB for me????????

also said Ivy was WAAAAAAAAAAAY more hung up on Rage Against The Machine than DMB; this is the school that gave G Love and Special Sauce the massive gasface in favor of a pickup band made up of choral singers (I've posted that story here before...)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQDzdiblNE

g love and special suck amirite

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

Didn't they get a lot of their fans through touring the college circuit though? (I dunno, a lot of my "knowledge" of DMB is basically inferred from passing aside references)

The fact that a lot of South Africans move to Australia to let the white times roll doesn't really result in any kind of awareness of SA or SA-related cultural products here.

let the white times roll

lol

I beg you all, don't let your feelings about Dolores "Not Larry" O'Riordan color your judgement here. DMB is worse than ten Hitlers. Or at least some number of Hitlers greater than one.

from the zombie cover youtube comments

The most tasteless and point-missing musical abomination in the history of the world, ever. They took a heartfelt Irish protest song from the previous year resenting the IRA's campaign of violence, and made a happy, boppy dance version of it.

Simply repugnant.

EalaDubh 4 months ago

at first i assumed they were talking about the cranberries original..

DMB dumped its own sewage onto people's heads while they were on an architectural tour, which is worse than screeching "Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou"

DMB is worse.

hahahahaha I had forgotten about that

Cranberries dumped sewage into peoples heads by making that song

metaphorical sewage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual sewage

DMB dumped its own sewage onto people's heads

by sewage you meant "every live album it's ever released"

Dolores sounds like a harpooned walrus. the DMB song has a pleasant sax solo.

Didn't they get a lot of their fans through touring the college circuit though?

yes this is their origin story.

god if only we had an overzealous dept of homeland security back then

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3597180.stm

this is seriously one of the funniest stories ever

god if only we had an overzealous dept of homeland security back then

policing Charlottesville!

pleasant sax solo.

R.I.P. LeRoi Moore

DM himself is, i am assuming, not a white-times-roll kind of zud afrikan, to his credit.

http://riffraf.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a7b5f86a970b014e5f3d6c85970c-800wi

the one who died being the only one w/ shoes in that pic is very "barefoot paul on the cover of abbey road"

I like "Zombie"! It was obvious at the time that it was just a Smashing Pumpkins rip-off but tbh I liked it more than anything off Mellon Collie except "1979" & I still feel that way. Plus "Zombie" is easy & fun to sing around the house & I do this a lot still.

Dave Matthews makes me feel old, b/c it got big w/ college students right when I graduated from college & I could not get the appeal.

The dude on the far right excepted, these are the most out of shape guys under forty to hit multiplatinum in the last twenty years

DMB song is pleasantish-enough light rock imo. Cranberries, although I championed their first album, exaggerates all the worst qualities of Dolores' vocal quirks and mawkish poetry about "big issues."

It was obvious at the time that it was just a Smashing Pumpkins rip-off

yeah see this wasn't going to make it any more endearing to me

DMB song is pleasantish-enough light rock imo.

this might be true except the lyrics are not just bad, they are offensively stupid

And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

^^^ ESOL student

i'm sure the lyrics are better in the original gaelic

what would YOU say?

does Zombie even have lyrics? all I know is "zahm beh eh eh eh" etc & the chung chung chung chung chung riff

has everyone bagging on "Zombie" heard "Bosnia", because that will blow your mind if you haven't heard it

i was gonna suggest the John Lennon one as their peak

i would rather hear cranberries than dmb

i'll prob take dolores's po-faced inarticulate nonsense over dave's breezy faux-wise nonsense

they each deserve separate singles polls imo

lyrics are not just bad, they are offensively stupid

I've heard that DMB song a handful of times, just relistened five minutes ago to make sure I knew which song it was, and I still don't remember what the lyrics are. Maybe I just block DMB out like bad TV commercials.

as far as cranberries hits go, i'd rather hear "zombie" than "free to decide" or "ode to my family"

TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE DOING LINES: DON'T DO IT

i'd rather be kicked in the shin than in the balls but

xxpost "Free to Decide" was objectively awful so not sure that's a meaningful statement.

Does anyone prefer "Zombie" to the first album? Anyone?

MOM IT'S MY BIRTHDAY

only lyrics i know, apart from the title

"Don't Drink The Water" is one of the most hilarious songs I know, though.

I know the lyrics on "Salvation" are hamfisted, but musically it fits happily in the "Crazy Horses"/Rocket From The Crypt continuum and I have no beef with hearing it anytime.

When played live, "Don't Drink the Water" is often preceded by a spacey intro that features Matthews' famous screams and comes to a loud climax before slowing back down into the beginning of the song. The song itself is played at a much more upbeat tempo that differs greatly from the much slower paced one featured on the album.

DONT DRINK THE WATER
THERE'S BLOOD IN THE WATER

TV On The Radio should cover "Don't Drink The Water"

lol "free to decide"

based on the news story above, "blood" is not the main problem with "the water"

Also, heard "Free to Decide" at the grocery store the other night, would take it above "Zombie" or "Salvation" easily. "Linger" and "Dreams" are quite lovely though.

Did you think "I'm not so suicidal anymore"?

Do people here hate "Dreams?" I figured that was generally considered an ok song.

kind of not that bad... better than pretty much any Dave jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yam5uK6e-bQ

I do love Linger more than any DMB song; only "Two Step" comes close...

"i drink too much" makes me want to drink too much

It's probably because they were totally ubiquitous when I was 13-17, the age at which your brain is highly vulnerable to radio hits, but I kinda like all DMB's mid-'90s stuff. Cranberries aren't too bad, either. Someone from the post-Pearl Jam crop of assholes like Bush is way more odious to me.

When I was 15 people would tell me I look like Dolores, but that's because I had short red hair and people are unimaginative/love making celeb comparisons.

OTM about having a hard time really hating those mid-90s Dave singles. We should do worst Bush single or something.

Bush singles >>> DMB singles, but I'm something of a grunge acolyte...

the first 7 bush singles are good.