PAUL SIMON POLL RESULTS THREAD AND DISCUSSION

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i know art garfunkel's voice is a beautiful instrument and all but also, maybe he is a robot?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Scarborough/Canticle, it's nice

And maybe Lamp only has a small window of time to provide us results? I dunno that it's really fair to give him too much heat for how the results roll out. Hard work being pollmaster iirc.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

just a few things:

- i only have an hour or so tonight before i have to go to bed to post stuff and this week is shaping up to be p busy. its obv not the ideal roll-out schedule but its what ive got.

- the #1 vote for scarb fair is by far the most perplexing of the 33

ok so actually only two things

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lamp you're a hero

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

O
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Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink


#25 A HAZY SHADE OF WINTER
1966
217 points/10 votes/1 #1 vote

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn people be lovin all this garfunkel

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:03 (2 years ago) Permalink


#25 THE COOL, COOL RIVER
1990
219 points/9 votes/0 #1 votes

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

cool cool river was my #2. it has never not made me cry, any of the one million times i've listened to it.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink


#24 PEACE LIKE A RIVER
1972
225 points/8 votes/1 #1 vote

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

paul simon songs that are about rivers/sonically reproduce the constant movement of a river are a-okay by me

xp okay i am dead. "peace like a river" was my #1.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn people be lovin all this rivers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are not 23 songs better than "peace like a river" ON THIS EARTH

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

damn horseshoe be lovin all this rivers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

if by "people" you mean paul simon

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol xp

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

no really there is something smart plax said in one of the paul simes thread about the structure of "peace like a river" and i think it applies to "cool cool river" too i will try to find it

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

"peace like a river" is the best song, though, just fyi

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol morbz bair

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink


#23 I KNOW WHAT I KNOW
1986
236 points/13 votes/0 #1 votes

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think for somebody that started out with like straight acoustic guitar and voice songwriting, he has spent a lot of recording time like *loosening* up the structures of his songs, from his first solo album on you get the sense of him moving in different directions (the lush jazziness and disco flourishes on h+b, the jam band vibe on one trick pony) that open out the rigid structures of his songs (his s/t is so good because he does this more successfully inside the songs themselves than ever again, peace like a river is the best example of what i mean but i don't know if i'm explaining this in any intelligible way at all)

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horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

both those songs flow, like rivers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

peace like a river! i am obsessed with that song!

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horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

they do flow! otm!

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

'peace like a river' is a song i vastly underrated before i started working on this poll. it ended up really high on my ballot and i just find it incredibly moving, i think the way it shifts perspective multiple times throughout the song, going from sitting 'starry-eyed' in the midst of history to having nowhere to go but 'back to bed'. the obvious child does something kinda similar i think but in a more schematic way the false endings and shift in tempo lack the ambiguity and resignation that 'peace like a river' has, the way it sort of sputters into the second half of the song. it really is a deeply beautiful song, one of his best i think.

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

<3

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

"starry" is a word i always vibe to; it's in "take me to the mardi gras" too

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

in a way i think "peace like a river" is of a piece with simon's 60s political activist leanings but it's so humble and just beautiful about it. i just love it.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:15 (2 years ago) Permalink


#22 SLIP SLIDIN' AWAY
1977
247 points/11 votes/1 #1 vote

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

These results are really interesting so far

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

you can beat us with wires
you can beat us with chains
you can run out your roles but you know you can't outrun the history train

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't vote for "slip slidin' away" but i love it; i think aero's hatred of it in the I'm sorry, but Paul Simon is so overrated thread affected me somewhat.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:19 (2 years ago) Permalink


#21 RENE & GEORGETTE MAGRITTE WITH THEIR DOG AFTER THE WAR
1983
249 points/12 votes/1 #1 vote

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love slip slidin away, it is another big nostalgia song for me that's hard to consider objectively.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't vote for "peace like a river", which i now regret. "the cool, cool river" is nice, but just that, imo. "peace like a river" is amazing, and i only slight it cuz i didn't grow up with it. silly me.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

and plax so, so otm about the "loosening up from within" (paraphrased) as it applies to "peace like a river". it's like a S&G song left to grow wild, so loose and lazy, in a weird way reminiscent of african blues a la ali farka toure in the guitar arrangement.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

in a way i think "peace like a river" is of a piece with simon's 60s political activist leanings but it's so humble and just beautiful about it. i just love it.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:15 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what makes it for me is how the activist thing serves the narrative rather than being the thing the song is abt, like its abt the people not w/e beliefs theyre into, not really into message songs tho, I think it captures the good solidarity qualities of some olde timey protest songs w/o the polemic aspects, voted #11, tho honestly I couldve totally been intending to go for the other river song, I'm not the best w/titles, it's a good one 4 sure

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, that is nicely put though i also like polemics tbf

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway you're on the good list bc you voted for it

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to "rene and georgette magritte" right now. i have never been more otm than when i voted for this, "apres la guerre" and all.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's a good song. i can never get enough of him cataloguing the doo-wop groups. didn't vote for it, though. this accursed poll :(

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's funny cuz it's so the opposite of the opened out approach of "peace like a river" - tight and precise, but no less beautiful for that

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

just to recap the first half:

#40 FAKIN' IT
#39 THE LATE GREAT JOHNNY ACE
#38 THE 59th STREET BRIDGE SONG (FEELIN' GROOVY)
#37 AT THE ZOO
#36 KEEP THE CUSTOMER SATISFIED

#35 MY LITTLE TOWN
#34 TRAIN IN THE DISTANCE
#33 STILL CRAZY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS
#32 SO LONG, FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT
#31 GUMBOOTS

#30 SCARBOROUGH FAIR/CANTICLE
#29 HOMEWARD BOUND
#28 BORN AT THE RIGHT TIME
#27 AMERICAN TUNE
#26 A HAZY SHADE OF WINTER

#25 THE COOL, COOL RIVER
#24 PEACE LIKE A RIVER
#23 I KNOW WHAT I KNOW
#22 SLIP SLIDIN' AWAY
#21 RENE & GEORGETTE MAGRITTE WITH THEIR DOG AFTER THE WAR

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

psyched to make a playlist of all the winners when it's done, tho I'm sure I'll get kind pissed and impatient wading through the s&g

lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

also thank you so much for doing this, lamp, and sorry for grousing abt the rollout speed. i get excited and want to conversate with others about!

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh np i mean id like to do a more leisurely reveal too esp when im not exhausted and prone to fuck up the numbering, oh well, lyfe

see u all tomorrow morning

Lamp, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

thank you again for doing this, Lamp! these images have been fantastic. guys, "born at the right time" is not really about ronald reagan, right? o_O

horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: "rene and georgette", love the image of 50s doo-wop as this small and treasured object, a folded thing (like memory) that can be opened up and which when opened swallows the world. love, too, the way the music echoes this, the static drift the verses swelling into this romantic, nostalgic, gently swaying doo-wop chorus. so nice.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Three more of mine today but this really isn't shaping up like my list at all - too much Garfunkel, too much niceness. Not that he's ever not nice, but ILM adds a little more sugar than maybe I'm used to.

Anyway I voted for American Tune, Hazy Shade of Winter, and I Know What I Know. I had reservations about American Tune because the production is a touch syrupy, which is a thing with that whole album for me. I agonised over I Know What I Know because what I'm really loving is the incredible backing vocals, which obviously aren't Simon at all; I can't hardly see past them to the song itself. That's why I had trouble assessing the Graceland cuts in general for this poll.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink


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