okay so the guy on the right is a white guy...?
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
my habitual hunt for the creepiest commentary i can find has revealed some white people who are very angry zimmerman is being called a white person by the media, since he is clearly hispanic and probably jewish.
― goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
his father called him a "Spanish-speaking minority" in a press release
― 1staethyr, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm not angry really, just confused
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
lots of hispanic ppl identify as white
― 1staethyr, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's news to me
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok
― 1staethyr, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
wow really wish I just did not bother to google "George Zimmerman Jewish"
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
I live in a heavily latino neighborhood and have lived my whole life around latinos - literally never heard anyone assert that.
I have met a small number of latino Jews (Arturo Ripstein! total bro) but that's kind of rare.
xp
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's also a german name -- it basically means carpenter
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've definitely filled out forms (maybe even the census?) where "non-hispanic caucasian" was an option
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
in california they used to say "white not of hispanic origin"
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, that's what it is
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
“We are taking a beating over this,” said Lee, who defends the investigation. “This is all very unsettling. I’m sure if George Zimmerman had the opportunity to relive Sunday, Feb. 26, he’d probably do things differently. I’m sure Trayvon would, too.”
what the fuck is this? by not being outside while black? not going to 7-11 to get iced tea and skittles?
― horseshoe, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
and of course his main concern is the negative attention his department is receiving because of this
― 1staethyr, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
My black twitter friends tell me that this case is worse because the 17 year old was killed for nothing more than being black. But is the black 17 year old killed accidently by a drive by shooting any more dead than Trayvon? Again, is that any less tragic??
In my twitter conversations I was schooled on “wealth disparities,” and “racial disparities,” and how I was “someone operating in whiteness” that couldn’t possibly understand.
http://blog.chron.com/texassparkle/2012/03/the-tragedy-of-trayvon-martin/
― buzza, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
(More on that “white” part later)
― mookieproof, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Um...there's at least a chance that the shooter in a drive by will be brought to justice. That possibility seems to be in jeopardy in this case, which is most of why it's a big deal and getting a large amount of attention.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
what does "it's a gated community but you can walk in and steal whatever you want" mean?
― bnw, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
You can cut through the woods.
― bamcquern, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
It doesn't matter what race Zimmerman identifies as. The racism here is an entrenched, institutional part of the justice system: If you want to be nearly assured of getting the death penalty, kill a white female; if you want to give yourself good odds of never being charged, kill a black male. Doesn't matter the race of the perpetrator.
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I agree that it doesn't matter. was just perplexed when I saw the guy's photo
― the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
quote sounded like armed vigilante was their only option once thieves got past the gate.
― bnw, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
texassparkle's bio: "I'm a conservative activist. I blog at The Houston Chronicle, RightWingNews, Newsbusters, and my own site."
so yeah, trolling.
― s.clover, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp Rashada doesn't sound like he approves of what Zimmerman did. He just has an opinion about the security of his housing development.
― bamcquern, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
from all accounts it honestly sounds like zimmerman is mentally unstable, paranoid and completely unfit to carry around a weapon. and racist as hell, of course, but i get the sense that a factor in the institutional protection for him is happening because the police force that should be arresting him feels guilty that they ever let him have his power in the first place.
also MEGA RACISM, but i can't stop thinking about how CREEPY this guy's specific brand of sociopathy is.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
also heavily annoyed that signing petitions for his arrest or just signal boosting in general isn't happening at a millionth of the same pace as jason russell's funtime-let's-all-kill-an-irrelevant-warlord campaign last week.
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
DOJ apparently taking over the case
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
also phone records show Martin had called his girlfriend minutes before the shooting, her name is being withheld at the moment but she has stated how Martin said how Zimmerman was pursuing him, he put his hood up because a guy was watching him?
this is so totally fucked, all of it
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is so terrible. I started to listen to the call but I just can't. I hope the DOJ gets this asshole into a federal prison ASAP.
― plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
What is the federal angle on the case?
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
the state is too pathetic to lock up its dangerous citizens?
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
you have really never heard of white latino/hispanic as a category? it's basically a race v. ethnicity question i.e. what matters more to people as a meaningful moniker/identifier.
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
many xps
sincerely, your whitish-tannish-sometimes olive-complected latino correspondant
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
(fyi I know that's not specifically a valid federal case, I'm just mad)
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Department of Justice's statement said:
"The department will conduct a thorough and independent review of all of the evidence and take appropriate action at the conclusion of the investigation. The department also is providing assistance to and cooperating with the state officials in their investigation into the incident. With all federal civil rights crimes, the government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a person acted intentionally and with the specific intent to do something which the law forbids – the highest level of intent in criminal law. Negligence, recklessness, mistakes and accidents are not prosecutable under the federal criminal civil rights laws."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/os-trayvon-martin-doj-investigation-20120320,0,6763029.story
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
whoops, beat me to it
That police chief really is a piece of work. He really does have no sense of what a fool he sounds, I guess.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
right so hate crime law I guess? IDK on one hand I guess I'm glad the feds will take this away from fla, but otoh wouldn't it be pretty hard to demonstrate that this was actually a hate crime? I mean obv the fact that the kid was black is a big part of why he is now dead, but it looks more like Zimmerman was a paranoid racist asshole who imagined he was protecting his gated community, not a guy out to intimidate black people in general.
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not necessarily hate crime law, counselor, you should know better!
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean, i really have no idea -- is pursuing someone with a loaded weapon a clear indicator of malicious intent? i think there it's clear that zimmerman saw martin as criminal because he was black, and that he pursued martin because he thought he was criminal.
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/trayvon-martin-case-sent-to-grand-jury
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
but can you string those together and argue that zimmerman pursued and shot martin because he was black? that's certainly how i see it going down but i don't know if that's enough to make a case xp
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
what "federal civil rights statutes" would cover this besides hate crime laws?
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe a failure to charge Zimmerman amounts to some 14th amendment equal protection/due process violation?
― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
no way
― the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Way. It's a tough argument, but doable.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
as i understand the case, one of the biggest problems any possible prosecution faces is that while lots of people saw/heard the lead-up and immediate aftermath, george zimmerman is the only direct, living witness to the encounter and shooting itself. he made sure of that. his version of events is therefore all anyone really has to go on, absent forensic evidence that might seem to dispute it. i mean, zimmerman says trayvon martin attacked him. even if we have every reason to doubt his character and state of mind, i suspect that his story will be awfully difficult to unambiguously disprove in a court of law. all the hypothetical prosecution seems to have at this point are a few witnesses who say they heard trayvon call for help (or think they heard trayvon, or w/e).
if this case ever does go to trial, it's going to be very interesting to see what a jury makes of it. half suspect that a hung jury would be the outcome every time.
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
BACK TO SCHOOL IS FAST APPROACHING!!! KNOW YOUR RIGHTS IF STOPPED BY THE POLICE!
― crüt, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:13 (5 months ago) Permalink
the dunn dunn data don dada
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 30 November 2012 05:40 (5 months ago) Permalink
I'm curious as to what kind of word-exchange would justify nine shots in response from one side.
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:15 (5 months ago) Permalink
Dunn drive-by dude biggest dick ever. Who packs a gun for a wedding trip? (answering own question before I ask it)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 November 2012 17:05 (5 months ago) Permalink
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/us/zimmerman-letters/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Though Zimmerman is half Hispanic and grew up in a mixed-race family, many of his opponents believed his actions were the product of racial profiling, while others felt the incident was being used to stoke racial tensions. Those sentiments, too, are apparent in the letters"You are a RACIST BASTARD, who targeted an innocent Black kid, simply because he was Black," one note read."You murder a child because of the color of his skin," said another.In contrast, others saw the racial controversy as a ginned-up conspiracy to condemn Zimmerman and made references to "the race-baiting media" and "threats by the black community and their leaders.""Black people take every opportunity to claim they've been wronged," said one letter, while another encouraged Zimmerman to keep his head high: "Don't let the damn blacks hold you back."
"You are a RACIST BASTARD, who targeted an innocent Black kid, simply because he was Black," one note read.
"You murder a child because of the color of his skin," said another.
In contrast, others saw the racial controversy as a ginned-up conspiracy to condemn Zimmerman and made references to "the race-baiting media" and "threats by the black community and their leaders."
"Black people take every opportunity to claim they've been wronged," said one letter, while another encouraged Zimmerman to keep his head high: "Don't let the damn blacks hold you back."
fuck this country tbh
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:07 (2 months ago) Permalink
― abanana, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:38 (2 months ago) Permalink
uh
― :C (crüt), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:39 (2 months ago) Permalink
welp I'm glad I clicked on that
― my super interesting Kant story (DJP), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:41 (2 months ago) Permalink
good god.
― s.clover, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 21:56 (2 months ago) Permalink
when will i learn not to click on things i've been warned not to click on.
hey can we not post shit like that picture thanks
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 23:18 (2 months ago) Permalink
i'm gonna assume that was onion tweet thinking, but still gonna delete it now...
― forks is lucky he didn't get stabbed over a marilyn monroe cd (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 04:57 (2 months ago) Permalink
sbanana
― buzza, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 05:04 (2 months ago) Permalink
Since he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin last year, George Zimmerman has been trying to convince the public that he was not acting simply out of racist aggression but because Martin attacked him. Zimmerman’s brother, Robert Zimmerman Jr, is not helping his cause. On Saturday, Zimmerman went on a Twitter tirade against “black teens,” equating the boy killed by his brother with De’Marquise Elkins, the 17-year-old suspect in the murder of a Georgia infant.As highlighted by Mediaite, Zimmerman tweeted a photo comparison between Elkins and Martin flipping their middle fingers with the caption, “A picture speaks a thousand words…Any questions?”Zimmerman tweeted the photo at Michael Moore, the NAACP, the NRA, and a Breitbart.com editor. He followed it up with another comparison between the two, tweeting “Teen to West: “Do you want me to shoot your baby?” #TrayvonMartin to #GeorgeZimmerman: You’re gonna die tonight Motherf**ker.”In case the reason for his comparison of the two young black men was unclear, Zimmerman later tweeted:.@TheRealPest @michaelskolnik - Lib media shld ask if what these2 black teens did 2 a woman&baby is the reason ppl think blacks mightB riskyTrayvon Martin was unarmed when Zimmerman allegedly followed him and shot him. He had no criminal record. Zimmerman had a history of calling the police to report suspicious black individuals, one as young as 7-9 years old. By his brother’s logic, this frequent suspicion of black people was not due to prejudice but because black people pose a genuine and constant threat to everyone around them.Zimmerman’s trial is scheduled for June 10.
Saturday, Zimmerman went on a Twitter tirade against “black teens,” equating the boy killed by his brother with De’Marquise Elkins, the 17-year-old suspect in the murder of a Georgia infant.
As highlighted by Mediaite, Zimmerman tweeted a photo comparison between Elkins and Martin flipping their middle fingers with the caption, “A picture speaks a thousand words…Any questions?”
Zimmerman tweeted the photo at Michael Moore, the NAACP, the NRA, and a Breitbart.com editor. He followed it up with another comparison between the two, tweeting “Teen to West: “Do you want me to shoot your baby?” #TrayvonMartin to #GeorgeZimmerman: You’re gonna die tonight Motherf**ker.”
In case the reason for his comparison of the two young black men was unclear, Zimmerman later tweeted:
.@TheRealPest @michaelskolnik - Lib media shld ask if what these2 black teens did 2 a woman&baby is the reason ppl think blacks mightB risky
Trayvon Martin was unarmed when Zimmerman allegedly followed him and shot him. He had no criminal record. Zimmerman had a history of calling the police to report suspicious black individuals, one as young as 7-9 years old. By his brother’s logic, this frequent suspicion of black people was not due to prejudice but because black people pose a genuine and constant threat to everyone around them.
Zimmerman’s trial is scheduled for June 10.
― ARE YOU HIRING A NANNY OR A SHAMAN (Phil D.), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:52 (1 month ago) Permalink
bob zimmerman??
― The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:59 (1 month ago) Permalink
this fucking story/family
― Darth Icky (DJP), Monday, 25 March 2013 18:12 (1 month ago) Permalink
this fucking story/family country.
― s.clover, Monday, 25 March 2013 18:22 (1 month ago) Permalink