They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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A2-4 are almost all equally watchable.

no

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Although when I saw the movie in the theatre, the projector cinched up right at the moment of the big (crap) reveal, the light burnt the film and the movie ended. We got free passes to the next showing. It was a way better ending than Jeunet's xp

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wm Gibson did a draft of the Alien3 screenplay, iirc

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

The aliens killing one of their own to unleash enough acid to escape, after they've learned about the punishment button from creepy scientist dude

that part is awesome

the alien baby hybrid getting killed by mama ripley was ... sad :-(

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's crazy. A2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>A3>>>>>>>>>>>insert vastness of space where no one can you scream>>>>>>>>>>>A4

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

was there anybody NOT involved with A3 iirc

Summer Slam! (Ste), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

tila tequila

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, the A2>A3>A4 thing is popular consensus but I basically feel like Jeunet>Fincher>everybody>Cameron so whatever

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean i've always sorta felt like 2 and 3 were just sorta "here is the Alien story, with a slightly different (action! apocalyptic!) angle on it

4 was like HI ITS THE 90S

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore

goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 is awesome

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really gotta go watch all of them again, if i can (i've seen 1 & 2 so many times)

watched predator last night btw, à cause de l'action poll. fuck that is a terrific movie. only real flaw is that shot of the predator walking off while arnie is first caked in mud, he just looks wayyy too much like a dude skipping through the forest

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think the jeunet 4 is kinda good, idk. it's a cable staple now, nobody gives a fuck about 3 anymore

and the pupil becomes the master

catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"cable staples" could be a pretty good movie thread

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

should be stratified by era imo

catbus otm (gbx), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

James Cameron going on a "they killed Newt / I will never forgive them" tirade.

you act like cameron is the only guy who thought that sucked

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean i've always sorta felt like 2 and 3 were just sorta "here is the Alien story, with a slightly different (action! apocalyptic!) angle on it

4 was like HI ITS THE 90S

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, March 19, 2012 10:23 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think alien 3's actually pretty good.

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is how it goes:

Alien: Fantastic
Aliens: Sequel perfection--everything is "bigger/louder/more", but done intelligently and with beautiful design work that fits with and expands the world/universe glimpsed in the first film
Alien3: interesting ideas, hopelessly compromised production, flawed but surprisingly good film (especially the not-really-director's-cut)
Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

exactly^

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

ALIEN is straight up a great (creeping terror haunted house let's take a B movie and make it A+) film. ALIENS is mostly bollocks and way too blue. Smaller/quieter/less is exactly what made ALIEN work. Shit give me just Tom Skerritt talking to Mother over all of ALIENS.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

u mad

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like Aliens is a great film but as far as the actual premise of the aliens being this insidious thing in the shadows, thinking of nothing else:
1 > 3> 2 > 4

3 screwed up by showing the alien ripping up people in the hallways too many times in the run up to the ending, but ehhh

Aliens also gave us the whole egg-laying thing!

mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

think there might have been an egg in ALIEN iirc

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

There were gestating facehuggers but we didn't get the "alien craps out eggs through giant weird tube" thing

mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

The egg sequence at the end was cut. Still in the Alan Dean Foster novelization I got for Christmas in '89, tho

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

obviously you spray an alien with acid and facehugger eggs fly off, just like when a mogwai gets wet

mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you feed them after midnight they turn into a predator

Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gremlins Vs Predator

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

wonder if the franchise would have been as successful if they stuck with the original title of STAR BEAST

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, the A2>A3>A4 thing is popular consensus but I basically feel like Jeunet>Fincher>everybody>Cameron so whatever

I like Jeunet better than Fincher or Cameron too, but you gotta admit doing an Alien movie was not really playing up to his strengths.

If you're upset about Newt being killed in A3, you should read the original black & white Dark Horse Aliens comics by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson. They were made after Aliens but before A3, so they feature the grown-up Newt as the protagonist, with a pretty good plot that touches the origins of the Space Jockey and the Aliens too.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

STAR BEASTS
STAR BEAST³
STAR BEAST: RESURRECTION

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

STAR BEAST 4: SEXY BEAST

Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

boom!

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the DH comics were usually better written and more inventive than the sequels to Aliens.

Kinda wish they would have made "Earth War" at some point like the third one was teased as

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Star Beast 4: Dancing With the Star Beasts

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

― Conmetheus (latebloomer), Monday, March 19, 2012

OTM and I find A:R much less painful if I watch it as spoof.

Need to watch A3 again, I think. iirc Charleses Dutton and Dance ruled pretty hard?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Prometheus - Dunkle Zeichen"

oh man that's a great beer

epistantophus, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

That whiny "They're gonna get us, Man! We're gonna die, Maaaan!" guy in Aliens ruins that movie for me nowadays.

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

HEY watch what you say about Bill Paxton, friend

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alien Resurrection: get that shit away from me, made me hate Joss Whedon and his idiot fans ever since

LOL ppl blaming screenwriters for what ends up on the screen. Like, Whedon is the LEAST responsible person for what happened there.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Hudson

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

maaaaaaaaaaaaan

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whedon's fans are idiots though. I think we can all agree on that

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

wasn't resurrection based on a comic?

i am almost certain there was a comic about a dude who is studying captured aliens that also features a disabled character

worst thing about jeuneut is how he uses the same weirdo character actors over and over again

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like them in his "own" movies, but yeah, it was pretty weird seeing the clown protagonist from Delicatessen in an Alien movie.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Every director does that, you just hate Dominique Pinon

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

jeunet is really not that great guys

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

another thing i've noticed: Alien Resurrection and Deep Blue Sea are virtually the same movie

haha i've always thought this too

Summer Slam! (Ste), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink


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