They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

How so

Star Wars wasn't?

We should probably have a thread for the Wachowski's Cloud Atlas at some point. Gonna be hilarious

matrix is great. sequels are poop. wachowski's are just some people, iirc.

Come to think of it, I still have never seen Alien IV a second time. Kinda wanna watch Alien 3 to see how many UK character actors I recognize.

Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her

seriously look like some space cthulhus

When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”

Hahah. OTM. But I saw said wine flick on a flight (rather, I noted it was playing but didn't bother actually dealing with the audio) and it certainly looked appropriately gorgeous so hey.

Marion Cotillard looked appropriately gorgeous. Dunno about the movie

what the fuck does charlie chaplin have to do with north face, that's the dumbest meme i've ever seen

also ridley scott has made at least a few decent movies in the last eon: black hawk down, gladiator, american gangster, body of lies

i don't think any of those are epochal like alien or aliens but definitely around the sweet spot between popcorn thriller and more serious fare

lol charlie chaplin

cotillard? chaplin? what happened, i am confused

could def see cotillard playing paulette godard in a new biopic

wait, this is a BIOPIC?

xenobiopic

haha willie wonka my bad

Also, Alien IV was one of those times that so crystallized the prevailing design trend at the time for me. That particular trend being "Looking like a Quake level"

haha yes

yeah and also, i think i said this already somewhere on this thread, but it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"

and four years before quake (a year before doom, even)

the only good part of that movie was the chick that drowned

it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"

tbh, i think the heavy presence of the gritty and industrial in the 90s pop visual imagination owes a lot to david fincher

Most interesting thing about Alien Resurrection now is it basically being a very early version of Whedon's "Firefly," pretty much.

That and Brad Dourif getting his head eaten.

https://www.weylandindustries.com/6EQUJ5/6EQUJ5.jpg

so psyched for prometheus: the fifth element

the fountainmetheus

Alien 3 was before Doom. 4 had the Jeunet crew and rusted, crusted brown metal and hit in 97, between Quake 2 & 3, I think.

Yeah. The original Quake was 96 but it was kind of a medieval deal

speaking of continuity, ownership, all that: does anyone know what scott thinks of cameron/aliens? or any of the stuff after? i wonder. if it's even knowable. or the writers?

― goole, Monday, March 19, 2012 2:07 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

he initially didnt like aliens but i think he came around on it. ridley can be a bit of a crank. iirc that thing about where cameron talks about teaming up with him on an alien movie was sort of a thing he put out there to try and get them to not make AvP - 'hey dont do that and we'll do this for you instead' - its hilarious to imagine those two hardasses getting along on a set though. that'd be the most torrid production ever probably

"What's my motivation?"

"Go talk to the older aggro white bearded guy."

"Uh."

tbh, i think the heavy presence of the gritty and industrial in the 90s pop visual imagination owes a lot to david fincher

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, March 19, 2012 7:16 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you do know ppl are talking about "alien resurrection" not "alien3" right

yeah and also, i think i said this already somewhere on this thread, but it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"

― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, March 19, 2012 7:12 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^^^^^^LOL yes.

I h8 that movie so much.

I should check but is the Walter Hill listed as a coproducer THE Walter Hill? Kinda random if so.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, March 19, 2012 6:03 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah he co-wrote/produced the original Alien with David Giler and Gordon Carroll. They were responsible for the android Ash, a lot of the space trucker
aesthetic and some other things. They also infamously tried to lock out the original writer, Dan O'Bannon, from getting credit.

They have had producing credit on every Alien movie since, even Alien vs Predator.

And they also came up with the "soldiers in space" scenario for Aliens and after reading Cameron's Terminator script asked him to write it.

I've watched the hell out of the Alien series in the last six months after remembering I got the blu-ray set for Christmas over a year ago. I can enjoy all of them, but I'd rank Alien over Aliens any day. I'm really bad at elaborating, but I feel like Cameron definitely created some of the strongest stock characters and battles, but Alien somehow feels better as a film. It's kind of survival horror versus straight up action movie, though.

Meanwhile, Jeunet/Whedon's take was pretty much "Whedon meets French science fiction" which means it either needs to have fart jokes, take itself way too seriously, or both.

Fincher was pretty much screwed from the start

when did jeunet become a stand-in for all french sci-fi?

I was kind of generalizing to the few I've seen? Not necessarily just Jeunet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:French_science_fiction_films

I've seen more than I thought! I think there are a few Quebec films in here, but French language regardless

the only good part of that movie was the chick that drowned

― the late great, Monday, March 19, 2012 3:14 PM (1 hour ago)

whiney?

Alien Resurrection is pretty funny if you imagine that the Winona android was based on Amelie

nah, i said the chick, not the drowning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZtlBkGfig4

I had a Hollywood insider friend in college, and I remember him leaking the Alien 4 script to me. I read it over, and I was like, no fucking way. Same thing happened when he showed me the script to "A Life Less Ordinary," and I thought, no one way is this the follow-up to "Trainspotting."

ironic, because danny boyle was attached to direct Alien Resurrection at one point

Had a shot at being better with him attached, imo.

yeah, it was kinda funny seeing how he grafted on a horror subplot to Sunshine. Total "damn I should've taken Alien IV" syndrome

The horror plot is kind of ehhh but Sunshine was pretty awesome cast and visual-wise

yeah, it was a beautiful not-very-good movie.

Alien Resurrection can't even say that for itself. It's just ugly and stupid all the way through.

I'm not very trustworthy though, I watched Pandorum a couple times when it was on starz.

I've waxed about Sunshine elsewhere on ilx, but to sum up: I've made my peace with the third act and I'm glad it's the way it is.