Is this anti-semitism?

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Our killer, if these can be linked, has killed 4 Jews, three Arabs and a black guy.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

Is there any reason to believe it's the same person behind all three?

Mordy, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

France only has one murderer at a time

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

There's a very strong suspicion that the killer is the same guy who killed some Foreign Legionnaires in Toulouse and Montauban recently.

Really this statement is only interesting if you associate with the French criminal underground and they're speculating in whispers about who the killer is, and this is a Batman movie and Christian Bale is currently interrogating you.

Mordy, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Is there any reason to believe it's the same person behind all three?

It's being reported that the same weapon was used, although i'm not sure that's 100% confirmed.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Live reports are saying that it's the same calibre weapon, rather that the same weapon necessarily, but the same stolen scooter.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

same caliber weapon is meaningless, same scooter is hmmm

goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Ok, The Guardian is now saying it was the same gun.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

when i was in France during the mid-1990s, i was struck by how open many French people were wr2 their dislike of and bigotry towards Arabs. so it isn't only the Jews that the French appear to dislike.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

Same modus operandi, same scooter, same gun (according to the police) - it looks very much like the same guy.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Police hunting a gunman suspected of killing seven people in southern France are laying siege to a flat in Toulouse.

The man, named as Mohammed Merah, 24, a Frenchman of Algerian origin, has said he belongs to al-Qaeda and acted to "avenge Palestinian children".

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

This is gonna be awful.

I was in Toulouse when the first killings were happening, fwiw. I had an interesting if unconnected conversation with a local who said things like what Michael White & goole have been saying here.

Euler, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

anti-semetic and stupid. i don't know if it's true in the UK (i imagine it is) but Jews love voting for labour parties!

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link

i think what mr livingstone meant to say was that Jews won't vote for him because he's an anti-semite

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link

oh, he's otm then

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4746016.stm

here's some of his classic earlier material

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure the 'Nazi jibe' was as bad as was made out in the press, although failing to apologise was pig-headed. The other comments, if recorded accurately, are incredibly stupid - particularly given how important Jewish voters and activists have always been to Labour in London.

Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link

French authorities have corned the suspected gunman in Monday's killing of three children and a rabbi outside a Jewish school in Toulouse, France. The police identified the suspect as Mohammed Merah, a 24-year-old Muslim citizen of France of Algeria descent. About 300 police officers have cordoned off an apartment building where they traced Merah. The suspect has been participating in negotiations with the police and said he will turn himself in this afternoon. He told negotiators that he belonged to al Qaeda and that the attack was conducted in retaliation for the killing of Palestinian children and French military intervention abroad. Authorities also suspect Maher for two other attacks in which three soldiers were killed.

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

why does he morph into Bill Maher at the end of the paragraph

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

this is all gonna end well isn't it

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

i think the events that have already transpired preclude our calling any ending of this 'well.'

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I look forward to the flood of self-righteous screeds about the importance of French secularism

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

i look forward to the explanations of how this is israel's fault

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that too

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

i'm so fucking upset. i've been depressed about this since yesterday.

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Extremists must stop using the Palestinian cause to justify their acts of violence, Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said on Wednesday after a deadly attack on a French Jewish school.

"It is time for these criminals to stop marketing their terrorist acts in the name of Palestine and to stop pretending to stand up for the rights of Palestinian children who only ask for a decent life," the Palestinian premier said in a statement.

Good for Fayyad saying this.

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

I look forward to lots of poorly justified anti-Arab rhetoric in the upcoming presidential election.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

This will likely help Sarkozy but I find this whole kinda discourse pretty gross. Like with that AUF shooting. Everyone figures out what identity of the killer would be most helpful to their political ambitions, then root for finding out that they were right. If you were right, you get to mock the other side for hoping that it wasn't their guy. It's a pretty fucking sick and ethically hollow way to live. I guess human beings need this distance, though, otherwise life would be really painful. Or maybe pundits/columnists/politicians are all just assholes.

Mordy, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Even Hollande has come out strongly for reducing legal immigration (which is code for no more Arabs or blacks - 'we have enough') and though this might help Sarko, it might help Marine Le Pen, too.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.salon.com/2012/03/21/the_strange_case_of_the_toulouse_shooter/

Mordy, Thursday, 22 March 2012 04:59 (twelve years ago) link

Merah is dead

tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 22 March 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

"Anyone who regularly consults Internet sites which promote terror or hatred or violence will be sentenced to prison," -Nicolas Sarkozy

so, who will be in charge of sorting out the acceptable forms of political dissent.

Sébastien, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

is it anti-semitic to think that David Brooks is an embarrassment to Jews?

^^^srs question, btw. If yes, I gotta work on that.

quincie, Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

I'm getting sick of the "Arab" thing. Where are all of the Islamic extremists? Well - these are the same people who used "communists" twenty years ago.

Also, are sororities anti-Semitic if they don't have any Jews in them? This is discussion I had with a family member the other day. I say "yes".

it's anti-semitic not to, quincie

Mumblr tights (symsymsym), Friday, 30 March 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^such a relief.

quincie, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

(not actually asking if that's anti-semitic)

max, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

id change my display name to jew-cash-money-team if i was the flighty sort who changes dns upon a whim

gelt rules everything around me

bnw, Friday, 6 April 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

(not actually asking if that's anti-semitic)

it isn't, right? or am i missing something?

comments on news & politics sites are always so horrifying

they are self h8rs-gonna-h8-ing jews

is it anti-semitic to think that David Brooks is an embarrassment to Jews?

he's an embarassment to humanity

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

ok is 'Shyster' anti semitic? I called up someone for using it but the etymology suggest differently? Has it become anti semitic?

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Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

shyster's weird in that it doesn't seem to have an anti-semitic origin, but has come to have anti-semitic connotations over the years


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