They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

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:-)

there's also this: http://www.projectprometheus.com/eridu/

(Eridu was one of the first cities in humanity's history)

StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rightly or wrongly I'm starting to think about the film as very much its own thing -- I really don't care if it does or doesn't sync up with Alien in all details, and I actually like the idea of it being a self-sufficient variation. (Of course having said that it'll turn out that it DOES fully sync up etc. etc.)

I'd also like to think that the comment upthread about the 'real' twists not even being hinted at at all in the trailers has relevance, if only because Scott and Lindelof by now are well aware of a hyperexpectant/detail-oriented fan culture now decades established and even more precise in the frame-by-frame years.

Anyway, we'll see. And I have no problem with weird viral scheming.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'll cry a lot if it turns out to be a George Lucas thing where there is a lot of plot not hinted at in the trailer, and all of it is unwatchable boring garbage.

mh, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

it turns out the space jockeys are interstellar tariff collectors

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking space economics how do they work

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I should check but is the Walter Hill listed as a coproducer THE Walter Hill? Kinda random if so.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking of continuity, ownership, all that: does anyone know what scott thinks of cameron/aliens? or any of the stuff after? i wonder. if it's even knowable. or the writers?

(checks imdb) walter hill has been behind all of them, i see. and lindelof is a "lost" guy? and the other writer has a thin resume? this stuff is interesting, idk. about as interesting as "<3 this useless geek stuff"

xp heh

goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

sorta surprised by how much people care about this...? Ridley Scott hasn't made a decent movie in eons, the odds that milking an already bled-dry franchise even further will somehow result in a decent film are really low

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's Cameron

Ridley Scott is talking about doing an Alien prequel
That’s a strange move for him. I mean, Ridley and I talked over lunch maybe 10 years ago and I said, “Look, I’ll write it and produce it, you direct it, it’ll ****ing kick ass!” And he was like, “Yeah, let’s do it!” And nothing happened. And then they did Alien vs. Predator, and that kind of pissed in the soup. I think Ridley really should do science fiction. He made the two most iconic science-fiction films of the 20th century. When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her:

http://cdn.chud.com/9/99/9936eaaa_prometheus1.jpeg

StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, all credit to Cameron, obv.

StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm probably one of the few people who liked his Robin Hood? It wasn't mind-blowing or anything, but IMO it was an interesting attempt to do a more "realistic" take on the RH mythos. Certainly better than Gladiator.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Most anything is better than Gladiator.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

My god, these monsters are hideous when they're out of their suits: http://i43.tinypic.com/2m5f993.jpg

StanM, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dug Robin Hood for the same reasons, Tuomas

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked Russell Crowe's Irish accent

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

the battle scene on the beach was pretty cool

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Some of the preview designs look interesting, but at this point, I expect every genre film to be shit or massively disappointing, so I ain't got my hopes up.

That said, I'm trying to think of other iconic 20th C films that reach that level. 2001, maybe? Star Wars and the Matrix were both tarnished by later connected flicks.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Matrix tarnished by its makers imho

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

How so

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Star Wars wasn't?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

We should probably have a thread for the Wachowski's Cloud Atlas at some point. Gonna be hilarious

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

matrix is great. sequels are poop. wachowski's are just some people, iirc.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Come to think of it, I still have never seen Alien IV a second time. Kinda wanna watch Alien 3 to see how many UK character actors I recognize.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey look, two of them space jockey/elephant/suits in the corridor behind her

seriously look like some space cthulhus

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

When he came to visit me [on the set of Avatar] I said to him, “Quit ****ing around with these wine movies in the south of France, make another science fiction film.” And he saw the technique we were using and got all fired up about it. He turned to his producer and said, “Why am I doing this Robin Hood? I should be doing science fiction!”

Hahah. OTM. But I saw said wine flick on a flight (rather, I noted it was playing but didn't bother actually dealing with the audio) and it certainly looked appropriately gorgeous so hey.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Marion Cotillard looked appropriately gorgeous. Dunno about the movie

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

what the fuck does charlie chaplin have to do with north face, that's the dumbest meme i've ever seen

also ridley scott has made at least a few decent movies in the last eon: black hawk down, gladiator, american gangster, body of lies

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't think any of those are epochal like alien or aliens but definitely around the sweet spot between popcorn thriller and more serious fare

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol charlie chaplin

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

cotillard? chaplin? what happened, i am confused

goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

could def see cotillard playing paulette godard in a new biopic

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait, this is a BIOPIC?

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

xenobiopic

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha willie wonka my bad

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, Alien IV was one of those times that so crystallized the prevailing design trend at the time for me. That particular trend being "Looking like a Quake level"

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha yes

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah and also, i think i said this already somewhere on this thread, but it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

and four years before quake (a year before doom, even)

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

the only good part of that movie was the chick that drowned

the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

it was soooo 90s to be like "what the gritty, industrial, magnificently-realized alien universe needs is... a dose of gallic whimsy!"

tbh, i think the heavy presence of the gritty and industrial in the 90s pop visual imagination owes a lot to david fincher

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Most interesting thing about Alien Resurrection now is it basically being a very early version of Whedon's "Firefly," pretty much.

That and Brad Dourif getting his head eaten.

butvi wouls (Phil D.), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

https://www.weylandindustries.com/6EQUJ5/6EQUJ5.jpg

so psyched for prometheus: the fifth element

dayo, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

the fountainmetheus

JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alien 3 was before Doom. 4 had the Jeunet crew and rusted, crusted brown metal and hit in 97, between Quake 2 & 3, I think.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. The original Quake was 96 but it was kind of a medieval deal

Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking of continuity, ownership, all that: does anyone know what scott thinks of cameron/aliens? or any of the stuff after? i wonder. if it's even knowable. or the writers?

― goole, Monday, March 19, 2012 2:07 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark

he initially didnt like aliens but i think he came around on it. ridley can be a bit of a crank. iirc that thing about where cameron talks about teaming up with him on an alien movie was sort of a thing he put out there to try and get them to not make AvP - 'hey dont do that and we'll do this for you instead' - its hilarious to imagine those two hardasses getting along on a set though. that'd be the most torrid production ever probably

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

"What's my motivation?"

"Go talk to the older aggro white bearded guy."

"Uh."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink


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