OMG I WANT THIS AMAZING RONALDINHO BOTTLE OPENER

I have been plenty involved already thank you horseshoe. I think being mocked for not seeing a race issue where I didn't think there is a race issue, and explaining why I don't think there's a race issue (and explaining that I do get why others think there is, even if it's not an issue I would have ever have thought to bring into the discussion of a pisstake out of one man's internationally recognisable teeth) is kind of ridiculous though.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/4b/200px-LOVE_JAM.jpg

oops!

They were "affectionate." The lawn jockey is "affectionate." The toothpaste guy is "affectionate." The minstrel show is "affectionate." They all say "hahaha don't you love those hilarious funny-looking darkies with their comical ignorance and simplicity and whatnot."

Unlike the bottle-opener, which says 'Ronaldinho is a flaming genius, yes, but he has big teeth so can be turned into a bottle-opener as a celebration of his genius'. I'd personally react with disdain and anger to all the things you list, but this is DIFFERENT.

wow, good deal for kenan.

DON'T MAKE KENAN DO THAT ALLY WE'D ALL HAVE TO READ ABOUT IT IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL ON SOME THREAD THAT USED TO BE ABOUT KNITTING OR SOMETHING

CHRIS MORRIS : A Peter File was attacked in his car this evening but I have to say if your surname was File would you call your son Peter?

SWANCHITA HAZE : No!

CHRIS MORRIS : And look : If a child does take your fancy please remember - leave it a couple of years.

SWANCHITA HAZE : I did

CHRIS MORRIS : Goodnight.

it looks like someone came on her face with gummy bears

I DON'T READ KNITTING THREADS, SO WHAT DO I CARE IF THEY SPLOOGE ALL OVER THE DAMN THING :D

hooray for brass eye!

My intention in participating in this thread was less to do with me [i[clearing my own ass[/i] and more to do with me working out why I reacted the way I did and trying to understand a counter-viewpoint. I'd have thought that was perfectly valid.

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it looks like someone came on her face...

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with gummy bears

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOW!

dude should maybe think about a visit to a urologist or something.

little-known fact: caruso's sunglasses prevent him from seeing race

Wait a second; did Louis call someone a PESTILENTIAL GRUNTFUCK?

gruntfuttock

no he called me a fat elf. we don't talk that way in this country

"The Day I Woke Up and My Wang Shot Orange Marmalade: A Memoir"

what ilx2 needed was a britisher vs american race debate that also involves soccer and louis jagger and tuomas.

Three out of four ain't bad.

Anyway, come on, let's all get along.

http://www.northernbrigade.com/files/uploads/395/group-hug.jpg

"gruntfuck" is nearly redundant, no?

Hey can I also point out that I hate the way any contentious issue thread like this quickly devolves into people going "this is so stupid" and "someone image-bomb this" and exasperated jokes? I don't understand how that at all makes things any better or less stupid. (But I can see how everyone who thinks it's so stupid just clearing out and doing something more worthwhile actually would help.)

oh, you're no damn fun

hey can i just point out that the reason everyone is doing that is because you, a normally intelligent person, are arguing with stubborn, petulant, willful idiots like lj and ailsa?

you can point it out but we won't listen!

but at the same time nabisco, i see your point.

Haha I'm trying to avoid arguing with LJ, mostly -- Ailsa I never previously thought of as being a big dummy or anything!

(But I can see how everyone who thinks it's so stupid just clearing out and doing something more worthwhile actually would help.)


help? this is ilx not the united nations nabisco.

it's been nice shitting with you guys

WAHT

nabisco otm up to the point where we wouldn't have discussed orange marmalade splooge today, cause that would have been a great loss

also keep in mind mabisco, you aren't going to change anyone's mind! the reason i hate these issue threads is because guess what? they never change anyone's mind, like ever.

as my better half likes to say: "You aren't going to save the world on the internet."

yeah a day with a gruntfuttock is not a day wasted

i would just like to point out that i have been otm on this thread, and you are all causing this flame-out over absolutely fuck-all. i had little or no interest in the original thread, but you have caused it to be of interest to me with your colour-sensitive fingertips. the whole thing has been unnecessary. what i was trying to say with that sentence which nabisco couldn't make sense out of is that nothing either by us or in the original thread premise was actually racist, and your collective reaction has painted us all in a disgusting light. none of us are racist, all of us are totally against racism, yet you have manipulated the situation to make it seem as though we turn a blind eye to it. this is fucking pathetic of all of you.

Haha I'm trying to avoid arguing with LJ, mostly

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=52391

No, you are going to save it in the BAR, where we spend the REST of our time talking about stupid shit.

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modest!

BLAH BLAH BLAH I"M BRITISH I DRESS UP LIKE A GIRL LOAD YOUR COCK WITH GUMMYBEARS AND COME ON MY FACE

hahahahahaha XPOST

which is that the issue is how the caricature resembles a whole HISTORY of race-caricatures that most of us are not entirely fond of these days.

This is a fair point. What I was trying to get at was that the intention should be a key factor here (though I accept offensiveness is defined by the offended) - I don't think anyone here, or that many people in the world at large, are taking the piss out of him because he is black. It is fair to say though that many of us aren't as sensitive as we should be about portraying stereotypes, even unintentionally.

In Britain there's a rich vein of football piss takery on TV and radio, from Schmeichel's stupid red nose to Cantona's monobrow to (insert fat footballer of choice)'s big arse including every dodgy haircut along the way. Ronaldinho is as famous as they get (apart from Beckham who is good enough looking that people resorted to laughing at his voice and bad mouthing his wife) having been world footballer of the year three times and fronting numerous Nike campaigns - so he's considered fair game. If you're going to pick a feature to lambast it's kind of hard to miss those teeth.

That's not to say there isn't a problem with racism in football.

Louis Jagger, bringing the lolz!

That's not to say there isn't a problem with racism in football.

There's a massive problem, but the issues are separate!

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XFUCKINGPOSTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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really? I don't get how you can be so sure the issues are separate?

the issue of exaggerated representation of a black soccer player + the issue of bad treatment of black soccer players, I mean.

DO NOT ENGAGE THE CRAZYBOT

(xpost: Ally OTM)

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A RACIST "MOTIVE" THERE IS A GIGANTIC BODY OF RACIST ICONOGRAPHY THAT THAT BOTTLE OPENER FITS PERFECTLY INTO JESUS CHRIST I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

I actually wanted to do what someone else did upthread, and repeat this a dozen times in a row because--good god!--it's all that's been running through my mind for the past few minutes I've been reading this thread. I think it's gone and worn a indelible track in my mind.

Really, this is not the most egregious thing I've ever seen, but that doesn't change the fact that IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S A RACIST "MOTIVE" THERE IS A GIGANTIC BODY OF RACIST ICONOGRAPHY THAT THAT BOTTLE OPENER FITS PERFECTLY INTO JESUS CHRIST I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS.