2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

reinforcing image of McCain-Palin being the not-exactly-with-it moron squad?

definitely puts her in the gray zone of someone with a lot of odd baggage. "the controversy took a strange turn today..."

Sully on Palin's interview with Sean Hannity: "(His) deference was so supine he may have back problems later in life."

But best line of the cycle to O: old boys' network = McCain's campaign staffers.

Perhaps Yahoo can apply the same principles it does in uh China and give over the mails to investigators?

/wishful thinking

more dead-cat-bounce confirmation

I don't think the average person is gonna care about the content of her personal e-mails, all they're gonna get is that some assholes broke into her yahoo account.

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shakey otm, i think

rascally liberal HACKER SCOFFLAWS going after a nice mom's email account. so what if she wasn't using her .gov account? honest mistake! and yahoo is so easy to use! just seemed easier! it's just EMAIL

Perhaps Yahoo can apply the same principles it does in uh China and give over the mails to investigators?

China-level policy isn't even necessary, just say you have Executive Privilege and the national underwear drawer is yours for the perusing.

The average person would probably also be taking umbrage that someone at a senior level is not being disciplined for sending work emails without legal disclaimers, containing confidential work info, from personal accounts, when average working person would be sacked for such a thing.

Yeah but the population of her state is like a little bit more than my neighborhood. You can't go after her for that, because "But I'm just a hick!" is a rock-solid defense.

I think pegging /b/tards as "liberal" might be a bit of a strech, not that the general public will care.

The average person would probably also be taking umbrage that someone at a senior level is not being disciplined for sending work emails without legal disclaimers,

oh please

That stuff, not so much. The idea of doing state business from your personal account would make a good number of professional people look at her askance, because no one does that unless they're hiding something.

Legal disclaimers?

yeah you know like

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

average working person would be sacked for such a thing.

O T M

no one does that unless they're hiding something.

It's possible -- likely, even -- that she was part of such an insular community that it honest-to-God never occurred to her that there should be a difference between personal and professional. That would explain a whole lot, no?

Also... not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

i do that shit all the time because we don't have a working vpn

the public doesn't know what a /b/tard is. moreover, i'd think the average person's concept of a "hacker" has less to do with libertarian dudes with l33† skillz and more to do with http://www.impawards.com/1995/posters/hackers_ver1.jpg

i mean, probably. also, there are loads of people who have jobs with extremely lax or nonexistent email protocols, and the ones that DO have them probably think they're stupid and hand-wringy (unless they're lawyers or engineers or whatever), and like what's the big fucking deal so she sent some EMAILS from YAHOO. Unless it's conclusively proven that she did so in order to go under the radar, it'll only play well if it's coupled with other, more substantive dirt.

but i'm not, like, the governor

yeah kenan that was actually the point of the nytimes piece
this woman is totally lipstick on a dubya

pfft. New York Times. Too cosmopolitan for me.

also, pretty much no one really LIKES the fact that they'd be sacked for sending EMAILS from YAHOO for work business, so if anything i'd be inclined to believe they'd be sympathetic!

then again, gov't business isn't like working for 3M, so wtf do i know

xps - oh right, I know not many people will get the reference, I'm only saying that the idea that anyone would call them "liberal" with a straight face is kind of funny

Man, I totally DO NOT WANT any crossover between work and personal email. If those editors found out another place I could be reached, it'd be all over...

also, there are loads of people who have jobs with extremely lax or nonexistent email protocols, and the ones that DO have them probably think they're stupid and hand-wringy (unless they're lawyers or engineers or whatever), and like what's the big fucking deal so she sent some EMAILS from YAHOO

Yes, this is sort of what I meant by "Legal disclaimers?"

Obama leads McCain 54 percent to 38 percent among all women. He holds a two point edge among white women, a 21 percentage point swing in Obama's direction from one week ago.

I have been saying all this time that right-wing men are more into Palin than any other voting bloc, and that includes women

(majority of women back obama and have unfavorable opinion of Palin)

grand old boner

palin is so fuckable right now

wow i didn't miss your dumb shit

i can read sarcasm on the internet very well sir

:)

i was being earnest

No, you were being HANDBAG.

My mom pointed out that blue collar men were LOVING the Palin pick and these are usually the guys who want a free pass for their small indiscretions eg. DUI because IT'S JUST NOT FAIR, nor was it fair when they got busted for net porn at the last job they got fired from. These are the tools who wanna be that little bit outlaw until some other douchebag steals their rims or something. Then they get all Law and Order.

Had an email from O campaign purporting to be from Michelle saying that it's going to be women's week and OH WHAT FUN WE'LL HAVE. Michelle has earned the karmic right to hand Palin's ass back to her, elegantly.

that should be interesting

surprised deeznuts hasn't started a FOO Poll: Palin vs M. Obama

white collar people never dui

No, they do sometimes. The only people that NEVER do are, like, Kennedys.

okay, but at least they don't look at porn at work

Obama leads McCain 54 percent to 38 percent among all women. He holds a two point edge among white women, a 21 percentage point swing in Obama's direction from one week ago.

source?

yeah i was wondering about that too

Kennedys are polo collar!

Sorry, but I have never heard one single white-collar person moan about their DUI as if they were not there and it was the cop's fault for breathalysing them. My sis has the blue collar friends/husband whose catalogues of misadventure are SO NOT THEIR FAULT. Please...

source?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:00 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i was wondering about that too

― no (stunzeed) LZD (deeznuts), Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:01 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's called Google guys

http://www.google.com/search?q=Obama+leads+McCain+54+percent+to+38+percent+among+all+women.+He+holds+a+two+point+edge+among+white+women%2C+a+21+percentage+point+swing+in+Obama%27s+direction+from+one+week+ago.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

xpost The Ronnie Dobbs complex. "Y'all are brutalizing me."

i have never heard any any-collar anyone not complain about how unfair their dui was. this goes hand in hand with how most people on the arrest end of anything are convinced that they got the raw deal. human nature, really, and not that surprising.

suzy yr class analysis there relies a little too heavily on anecdotal evidence I fear

It's possible -- likely, even -- that she was part of such an insular community that it honest-to-God never occurred to her that there should be a difference between personal and professional. That would explain a whole lot, no?

ok so I am against the asinine hacking stunt but the people thinking they were using their personal emails because Yahoo is more user-friendly or something are off base.

from that nyt sunday story

Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.

she's so much like Bush it's not funny. that story was great btw.

Yeah I'm pretty sure her using yahoomail was not her being "naive".