I think people are skeptical because Melanie Griffith has basically become a manic aging pixie.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Working Girl and Something Wild are maybe the only 2 movies I've really enjoyed her in, where I haven't wanted to stab myself in the eye.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
She's amazing here. Demme gives her a closeup after Charlie unwittingly reveals how much she means to him that's devastating.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link
wow, dr morbs, your littl thread-bombs are transcendently irritating. would you ever care to actually explain, the first time out, any of your devastating contraventions of conventional wisdom? or is trolling just, you know, your thing?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 15:11 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol this movie
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:12 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
formerly known as lol this guy
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 19:26 (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this guy
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:15 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:15 PM
like i said
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 31 December 2009 19:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:10 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
amplify?
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:28 (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:01 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
Difference is Griffith actually feels like a genuinely nutty and endearing character, not the random assemblage of indie quirks that made up later iterations of the form. She's more of a screwball heroine than anything
― Number None, Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:49 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, March 17, 2012 2:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
btw SW has my favorite use of music -- as commentary, found objects, counterpoint -- in a movie ever.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
yeah seriously.
let's watch the ending shall we?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8NSqlaTMM
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
that film is a beautiful representation of the 1980s. dated in the best possible way.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
I want The Feelies to play my reunionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_9Vlh1OtB8
― Number None, Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder -- is she actually hitting on him or is she playing with him since she probably knows he's not actually married to lulu?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
also: love the couple in the background.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Demme has a great feel for music in general, imo. His choice of Goodbye Horses for the dancing scene in SoL was fucking genius. (Feel free to crap on my head now Morbs)
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
hey slocki, since i got a lot of shit from you on the rgm thread for not digging the movie, i'm curious why you think you wouldn't like it now
― da croupier, Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good question, i don't have a specific answer beyond 'it hasnt really stuck with me' tbh
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
no I like the way JD has used music, often
cept Storefront Hitchcock is Robyn on an off night
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 March 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
always felt that Into The Night was easily the best of the urban/yuppie nightamre sub-genre. actually were After Hours, Something Wild and Into The Night the ONLY films in this sub genre? hm. well anyway i was recently amazed to see that someone else thought Into The Night was amazing too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr-CGHH6Ys0
― piscesx, Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
great genre
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:31 (twelve years ago) link
Suddenly realizing that a good number of movies I've long intended to see were Demme's. And also that several are streaming on Netflix! Stop Making Sense and Rachel Getting Married (FUCK THA HATERS) are fantastic.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
after hours is my favorite scorsese movie i think. it is good.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link
does naked fit into this subgenre btw?
mike leigh's?
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
I keep avoiding Mike Leigh's Naked, for perhaps obvious reasons.
― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:05 (twelve years ago) link
xpost
also frankenheimer's seconds is like a weird cousin to this subgenre no?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link
I've always loved 'Naked'. Its been a while since I rewatched it, but for me it's THE Thewlis performance. He can only ever be THAT guy to me.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link
I watched it again recently and it is... kind of great and kind of totally weird and maybe dated in some ways. Don't see it as part of this genre tho
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link
Naked could be seen as the British equivalent of those movies but it's a helluva lot grimier and more disturbing. Funny too of course
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
Music-wise, how do people feel about Demme having Q Lazzarus change the Talking Heads to "Heaven is a place where nothing can go wrong" in Philadelphia?
― da croupier, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
gonna go out on a limb and say that the feelies and robyn hitchcock songs in truth with charlie are also a little shoehorned
― da croupier, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:08 (twelve years ago) link
truth about charlie, i mean. haven't seen the manchurian candidate remake so i can't say whether the Go4, Mission Of Burma and Jah Wobble tracks imdb lists on its soundtrack work.
― da croupier, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link
Literally the only thing about Manchurian that works is casting Robyn Hitchcock as a villain.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 18 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
naked doesnt fit the bill at all, it's not about a straight/yuppie/uptight dude accidentally cast into urban chaos
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, he really is already a part of that world. If it was about the security guard...
― Number None, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
always felt that Into The Night was easily the best of the urban/yuppie nightamre sub-genre. actually were After Hours, Something Wild and Into The Night the ONLY films in this sub genre?
miracle mile fits the bill, i think.
― ☆, Monday, 19 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
outlier
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 19 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
desperately seeking susan, definitely.
and on the margins (different margins) are risky business and romancing the stone, etc.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
but the reason why i'm here:
what do y'all think of "philadelphia"? aside from the neil young song, which is beyond criticism IMO.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
Well-meaning, some good performances, but clumsy and mawkish? Also seemed like an apologia after Silence of the Lambs. (Agree that "Philadelphia"'s really nice.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
You can't buy Citizen's Band/Handle with Care on DVD--not officially, anyway. I found one place selling a bootleg. That's terrible. This would be perfect for Criterion.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 June 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS7s6YkVKEI
― tbd (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 December 2013 07:08 (ten years ago) link
The Truth About Charlie--which I reflexively want to call The Trouble with Charlie--was worse than I thought it'd be (was hoping for something in the neighborhood of pointless but attractive). Almost felt sorry for Thandie Newton. There is a good Silence of the Lambs joke if you can last past the awful Charles Aznavour end-credit sequence, itself a variation on something Demme did so well in Married to the Mob.
― clemenza, Thursday, 17 July 2014 02:40 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB__-cQ8LzM
"Out-Of-Print Criterion LaserDisc/DVD audio commentary by Jonathan Demme (director), Jodie Foster (Clarice), Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal), Ted Tally (writer), and FBI agent John Douglas.. "
― piscesx, Sunday, 12 October 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Did anyone actually see Ricki and the Flash, or was the prospect of Streep + Diabo Cody far too frightening? Only wondering 'cause the clip that Sound Opinions recently played of Streep singing "American Girl" sounded fun.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
I'm not really sure about it as a whole but there's a lot to like.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link
RIP
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:08 (seven years ago) link
wow.
I saw him at the movies with his kids a couple times.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link
I could never tell if his career went off the rails or if Hollywood simply made it too hard for him to work; m I thought Beloved was a stiff at the time, then he followed it with two totally unnecessary remakes. Rachel Getting Married was I guess comeback and people liked Ricki and the Flash, but it often felt like his heart was in documentaries.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
aw man :(
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:38 (seven years ago) link
Perfect Kiss is one of my all-time favorite music videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3XW6NLILqo
― circa1916, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link