interesting; i'm sure the stats will be much more juked even than normal moving forward
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 17 March 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
i really like "glad you came" btw... i didn't realize it was the song it was -- always assumed some shit by a band called "the wanted" was gonna sound like onerepublic
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's sorta lush... at least compared to most house stuff that ends up on the radio nowadays
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
still not sure what the five ppl in that group do tho
gotye is actually indier than foster the people, somehow
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
also i'm really angry that jessie j finally made a good song
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
nicki sounds so much like rihanna on this david guetta song... it's REALLY drab tho, which is kind of a shame cuz the guetta/nicki/flo rida song is pretty underrated imo
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
didn't realize this calvin harris joint was calvin harris either
i really wanted to love this song cuz i think the verses are pretty great but you're gonna need to write a chorus, son
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
the reverence that some rap fans give j. cole as a REAL LYRICIST is still hilarious and kinda bizarre to me but dude puts out pretty consistently enjoyable pop singles
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
that said the lack of chemistry b/w him and missy in this video is so funny
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm to rong in 0-60
― The Reverend, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't mind his singles; they're like Harold Ramis films in their guaranteed inoffensiveness or something
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
the chorus of "turn me on" sounds like chipmunks screaming as they're disemboweled, 'drab' is not really the word i'd use for it
jord is otm all the way on j. cole though, "nobody's perfect" is a great radio jam, "who dat" and "workout" aight too
― some dude, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Decent new yorker profile of esther dean and stargate in this week's issue.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/03/26/120326fa_fact_seabrook
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
dope
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
not enthused about the prospect of Ester Dean making another run at being an artist, her voice is so annoying
― some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, i LOVED drop
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Best Ester Dean performance is still the first thing I ever heard her on, Gucci Mane's White Girl. WELL MY NAME IS SUSIE AND GUCCI THINK I LOVE HIM / THAT SUCKA THINK I'M LOYAL BUT I FUX WITH ALL THE HUSTLAS. She's so in-your-face grating and obnoxious on it and it totally works cuz she's rapping as the personification of cocaine
― lex pretend, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh god that's her? i didn't think it was possible to hate her voice more
― some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
i had no idea either, have a newfound respect though. they tried that same trick with "safe sex" by bo deal but its not the same without those annoying vocals
― chilli, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
does that song feature a verse by a screaming condom?
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Late as per, but just wanted to say I like 'Call Me Maybe' a lot. Old school teen pop that sounds fresh on the radio at the moment.
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like how in my Jukebox review from November that I claimed that the Jepsen single didn't stand a chance on current pop radio, and yet here we are still talking about it four months later.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh wow, looks like TSJ got it totally wrong
― dayo, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
New Kerli track. SHUT UP, I LIKE IT!
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
She's completely ridiculous. I like it a lot too.
― Une semaine de Bunty (ShariVari), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
enjoyed that article about ester dean, belatedly. always interesting to get a peek into the nuts & bolts of how things happen
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
this unnamed song that is the 'smash' of the recording session:
“Do you do it like this, do you do it like that, if you do it like this can I do it right back.”
sounds to almost exactly like a direct rip off of metro station's "shake it"
Now, if she does it like thisWill you do it like that?Now, if she touches like thisWill you touch her right back?
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm not surprised, given how rudimentary ester dean's songwriting technique seems to be. disconnected words from tabloid magazines, of course.
the article does a good job at portraying dean as someone who's good at her job despite, or perhaps because of, her limitations, rather than her immense talent.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
there was an article about the matrix that contained similar descriptions of the pop songwriting process, can't remember where I read the article tho
― dayo, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
the demos of billie jean are mostly michael mumbling and making stream of consciousness words too
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 March 2012 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
rudimentary compared to who?
― dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
you're right, no literate or even coherent songwriters exist, ester dean is the ceiling
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 13:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just wanna know about the mozart of top 40 songwriters tbh
― dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 13:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
i have v mixed feelings about the members of hitmaking teams who specialize in lyrics and have less involvement in the production or arrangement -- the 'platinum hit' show on bravo last year was very instructive because you had kara dioguardi, who's written some incredibily insipid lyrics on huge hits, lecturing kids on good lyrics whereas it matters a little less to me if beyonce or timbaland pens a boneheaded lyric because they've obviously got other skills that matter more overall
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
but I thought ester wasn't just penning the lyrics but also penning the vocal melodies as well?
― dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i'm sure the melody and the meter are at least partly her responsibility, but i get the impression that she's coloring between the lines set by stargate or whoever after they bring in a completed track that at least strongly suggests what tune the artist will be singing
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 13:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
idk dude reread the article:
Most of the songs played on Top Forty radio are collaborations between producers like Stargate and “top line” writers like Ester Dean. The producers compose the chord progressions, program the beats, and arrange the “synths,” or computer-made instrumental sounds; the top-liners come up with primary melodies, lyrics, and the all-important hooks, the ear-friendly musical phrases that lock you into the song. “It’s not enough to have one hook anymore,” Jay Brown, the president of Roc Nation, and Dean’s manager, told me recently. “You’ve got to have a hook in the intro, a hook in the pre-chorus, a hook in the chorus, and a hook in the bridge.” The reason, he explained, is that “people on average give a song seven seconds on the radio before they change the channel, and you got to hook them.”Dean has a genius for infectious hooks. Somehow she is able to absorb the beat and the sound of a track, and to come out with its melodic essence. The words are more like vocalized beats than like lyrics, and they don’t communicate meaning so much as feeling and attitude—they nudge you closer to the ecstasy promised by the beat and the “rise,” or the “lift,” when the track builds to a climax. Among Dean’s best hooks are her three Rihanna smashes—“Rude Boy” (“Come on, rude boy, boy, can you get it up / Come on, rude boy, boy, is you big enough?”), “S&M” (“Na-na-na-na COME ON”), and “What’s My Name” (“Oh, na-na, what’s my name?”), all with backing tracks by Stargate—and her work on two Nicki Minaj smashes, “Super Bass” (“Boom, badoom, boom / boom, badoom, boom / bass / yeah, that’s that super bass”) and David Guetta’s “Turn Me On” (“Make me come alive, come on and turn me on”).
Dean has a genius for infectious hooks. Somehow she is able to absorb the beat and the sound of a track, and to come out with its melodic essence. The words are more like vocalized beats than like lyrics, and they don’t communicate meaning so much as feeling and attitude—they nudge you closer to the ecstasy promised by the beat and the “rise,” or the “lift,” when the track builds to a climax. Among Dean’s best hooks are her three Rihanna smashes—“Rude Boy” (“Come on, rude boy, boy, can you get it up / Come on, rude boy, boy, is you big enough?”), “S&M” (“Na-na-na-na COME ON”), and “What’s My Name” (“Oh, na-na, what’s my name?”), all with backing tracks by Stargate—and her work on two Nicki Minaj smashes, “Super Bass” (“Boom, badoom, boom / boom, badoom, boom / bass / yeah, that’s that super bass”) and David Guetta’s “Turn Me On” (“Make me come alive, come on and turn me on”).
like yeah not to minimize stargate's part in it but dean is doing a lot more than just writing lyrics
― dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
hadn't read the full article because when it was initially linked upthread i only saw a brief abstract, appears to be the whole thing there now though
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok dude
― dayo, Monday, 26 March 2012 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
so even though it's just "Hello (Redux)" I kinda love this new Dragonette single:
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like it too, weaker than hello i think, but all in all a nice pop tune.
― nathey, Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
They've been dumping little snippets of other songs from the album on soundcloud and a couple of them sat me up straight with a WOW.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
the carly rae jepsen single is at number one in the UK! feel like popping a bottle to celebrate the first UK No 1 i've lived in nearly a YEAR - had forgotten how great it feels when a properly amazing pop song goes to no 1
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
also i am not sure how or why because i had not heard of the song outside ilx or the singles jukebox until i checked the charts site half an hour ago
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
This has nearly twice as many views as the actual video, was probably something to do with it:
Amusingly Call Me Maybe is now set to keep Justin Bieber's own single off number one next week too.
― if, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
someone happened to have the radio on in the car I was in today and heard OMG that Carly Rae Jepsen song is amazing
― owenf, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i keep waiting to turn a corner with "Call Me Maybe" and figure out why people are excited about it because i usually am down for that kind of song, but it just keeps sitting there
― ghostface protocollah (some dude), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Honestly haven't been so pumped about a pop song in ages. Big string stabs/falls, the intervals on the 'all the other boys' bit before the vocal phrasing hangs on the chaaaase me.
― owenf, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
the disco strings remind me of britney's "anticipating"
it's just such an extraordinarily lovable song. also i LOVE that she's in her late 20s
(had no idea about the bieber pimping)
― lex pretend, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink